Rasputin said:

no, shards and dungeons only for event, i know its harsh, only way to do it is grind dungeo and pray rng looks kindly on u. sorry

I figured but thought it was worth asking.

Well that started a nice polemic...

Anyhow, I already have 100 runs going on both spider and fk. I alternate because it is boring as hell and I don't play on auto so I can farm higher lvl. It is VERY frustrating.

I got the goule on dragon after 2 run... I was farming so I did another 10 dragon... Got it again. And the worst part... I already had it my vault, and I don't even plan on fusing Katun anyway. 

Now I am confused because if I keep wasting energy like that it might seriously endanger my champion training event and tournament... But at the same time should I waste time doing this tournament if I never get the two missing dwarf?

Edit: I just saw my inventory... Actually around 130 runs on spider according to it. 

And fk is a pain in the ass. You need a team so specialized it take more time to do the two packs than the boss itself.

Right now taking a break because I just died stupidly. 

There is a bug with the life bar on fk that keeps coming its awe full. You heal but receive no pv, or it shows pv when you actually have none... Or the opposite. I just lost because it showed Vizier full life so I didn't heal him with apo... He was protected 50%, died with a breeze. 

Boss was at 30%... 15mn and 14 energy wasted. 

Been doing auto-Spider 15 all day - now over 550 runs in total and no dwarf.  Has anyone actually gotten the dwarf from Spider?

Been doing auto-Spider 15 all day - now over 550 runs in total and no dwarf.  Has anyone actually gotten the dwarf from Spider?

Not one to predict gloom and doom, but I was actually excited about this fusion and now I'd rather play a different game...  Borderlands 3 is calling my name - at least I'll pay for it fully up front and then just enjoy.  Way to go Plarium...

I hear ya Chebz.  Sad thing for me is that I've had that damn dwarf multiple times and earlier last week I was again completely out of room so I started thinning out the Rare champs I had as the last few fusions Plarium has made all the champs necessary for the fusion available.  I haven't been playing that long, so I wasn't around for the Foli fusion and from reading it sounds like this fusion is similar in the fact that some of the pieces are so difficult to get dropped that it is very difficult/impossible to finish the fusion.

I purchased a lot of energy for this fusion ($50-60 worth), so I will play it all out.  If after that many more runs I don't have the dwarf, then I'll just walk away.  This game is fun and I am a collector by nature, but if you can't collect (i.e. you play a LOT and don't ever get new champs - just the same ones you've gotten multiple times before) then I'm not really collecting.

Update - finally got the dwarf Beast Wrestler from Spider 15.  It was somewhere between 550-630 runs.  Glad to see that it actually drops.

Luckily I already owned all champs for the fusion except the one available from the champion training event, so theoretically I could have spent all energy on leveling up champions.

However, since I only have 1 mother superior and don't want to give her up, I put a lot of effort into reaching the one available from the dungeon divers event - at least that filled my gear inventory again, providing some silver required for the leveling process.

If my math is correct, I should be roughly 400 pts away from her once my current farming streak is done, that means I should get her tomorrow. Afterwards, I can throw it all into champion training. That'll probably eat away most of the gems I have, but I really like Jack's design so from my point of view that should be worth it.

hello game moderator,

i want to ask direct question, if is doable for me to farm FK 8 to get Runic Warder if im f2p? i already spent all my energy on it since starting of Halloween event and no luck. also have like 200 gems still available.

I can only speak for dragon 11 and so far, after I'd say something along the lines of 2k energy, I haven't seen one rare champ drop.

Are they gunna fix harvest Jack's modifiers so hes on par with other hp champs? . Going through all the trouble to fuse and stew drops a video showing him In Premo gear hits like a limp noodle and st. Nick on the same team with crap gear on hits way way harder ?? I kinda dont want to keep going in the fusion for a champ I wont use cause hes way off base.

I spend thousand point of energy in the fire Knight and still no Runic Warden, he is the only one miss for Jack and I am starting to getting desperate to have him. 

Is he really droppable in the dungeon ? 

1000 energy on the fk alone last night...

I got silver, stuff to sell and like 70 shards. 

I am very concerned about my training event which is not advancing at all because the dwarf won't fall. I still need 12000points for my firstborn, the energy I use on the fk would be more than welcomed. 

So far I used over 5k energy on spider and fk, got the spider one... And now I am thinking even if I get the fk dwarf, I might not have enough time or resources for the firstborn. 

I think I am toasted for the fusion. 

I now farm on auto fk9, because I can't stand it anymore, I just hope the droprate isn't 0% under fk10... I would be so pissed. 

Plarium need to put the droprate out in the open like they did for minotaur... Because it just raise suspicion and untrust in the mind of the people farming blindly. 

devin said:

I hear ya Chebz.  Sad thing for me is that I've had that damn dwarf multiple times and earlier last week I was again completely out of room so I started thinning out the Rare champs I had as the last few fusions Plarium has made all the champs necessary for the fusion available.  I haven't been playing that long, so I wasn't around for the Foli fusion and from reading it sounds like this fusion is similar in the fact that some of the pieces are so difficult to get dropped that it is very difficult/impossible to finish the fusion.

I purchased a lot of energy for this fusion ($50-60 worth), so I will play it all out.  If after that many more runs I don't have the dwarf, then I'll just walk away.  This game is fun and I am a collector by nature, but if you can't collect (i.e. you play a LOT and don't ever get new champs - just the same ones you've gotten multiple times before) then I'm not really collecting.

Plarium - publish the drop rates for the various champs by level.  Let us see for ourselves how likely/impossible you've made it.