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We had been terrible at tanking prior to this siege, our score was 3700+ and we were matched with a top 10 clan lol.   We full tanked, and may need to do again...

A system is glaring broken when it is this easy for the winner of a fight to manipulate the scoring to lose rank points and force the loser of a fight to gain rank points.  

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We had our toughest Siege matchup so far, and we got decimated.  However, due to this flagrant abuse of the scoring system, we actually gained rank points. 

Plarium: you need to do better.

Having just watched my nightmare hydra team fail miserably, mostly smacking the fear head for the hell of it, but more annoyingly lining up to hit a freshly spawned head with serpents will on it despite there being a dead head next to it repeatedly. WHY

Do u really think Plarium gives a flying fuck about sorting the glaringly obvious things out in thjs game, all there intrested in is selling energy packs and shards for the next couple of months befor they fuck off into the sunset!!

Rant over

We literally had to change clans cuz the system is so broken.  We just got boosted into oblivion and without that we never would have recovered.

Yeah it's ridiculous the best method is to literally go 50/50 win/loss.

Forever mroe of this;

Now I'm really curious what kinda bug there was that one week where it did NOT happen.

Been hit a few times by this during Siege and have had to restart the game.

Will pass this along...again.

What really baffles me is that it ONLY applies to siege, and it works fine if I restart raid and go directly to siege, but if i do anything else first, like an arena fight or clicking a level up in sparring pit, then it'll hang and I need to close and reopen again.

Same. Maybe it's a Plarium Play on PC thing. It will just hang when trying to start the fight. I have to quit the game completely and go back in. Then it resumes where it was in the timer as if I was sitting there at the Champion Select screen the whole time...

So, by my count, this is the 14th siege;

My clan has currently lost the last 5 in a row, and this time we're matched up against a clan who currently has THIRTEEN wins.

What in the name of Zeus's butthole is going on with matchmaking?

How the FUCK are we getting put against a clan with a PERFECT record?

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13 wins! they have NEVER lost!

How do you see their record? Also, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY PLARIUM, CHANGE THE VICTORY CONDITIONS! This is TWO in a row that we've "Tied" because they have ONE TEAM that is ridiculous cancer 

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And YET we absolutely destroyed them in Victories and Points (Siege hasn't ended yet so this isn't the final score with bonuses for destroyed building but we got 4 of their towers and they got 1 of ours)

EDIT: Update, 6 of their Towers down and only 2 of ours...

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Triple their points and almost double their victories, but this is a "TIE". It needs to be Stronghold OR if neither Stronghold falls, whoever got the most Towers+Shrines (with priority of types)

Click thier flag on the top left on the attack screen to bring up their clan page;

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I looked at the calendar and counted; this is the 14th siege. They've won every time since it started.

Are you winning CvC often? I swear I remember something about CvC performance factoring into Siege matchups

Off the top of my head I think we're roughly 50/50, both pr & non, over the last few months.

We don't do 'off-weeks'; but we're also not in a tier where it should be 'necessary'

We try our best each time; win some, lose some.

And I'd be fine with that if it were also the case for siege, except it's become not only 'lose some, lose more', but 4 of the last 5 we've been utterly, completely stomped. Like, no contest, over before it even began, we didn't have even a chance at ALL.

Maybe it's time to have a cumulative points chest for siege like hydra and chimera clash; even if you always lose you'll *eventually* get a chest, and at least you make *some* progress for trying.

CvC shouldn't effect Siege matchup at all. 

I hate Siege matchmaking with a passion.  Since it was so easy to manipulate early on its still out of whack.

ok good. Speaking of CvC, does anyone even care about CvC anymore? I mean really? There's no mats or special gear to get really beyond the shield ones and shards. It doesn't even make much sense with Siege now. I get it, it's something people still spend on but eventually they're gonna realize it's like arcade tickets: you're spending 10x the value of the prize you're going for.

Not like they used to, no. You'll see whale clans battle it out from time to time but it certainly isn't the same as the olden days of CvC for the majority of people. It really isn't worth the stress, at all. 

Rewards need updating, etc.

Ok glad to know it's not just me. I mean Siege and Chimera especially have the top rewards right now and they're both "Free" essentially. Burning a combined total of 30 shards across Sacreds, Voids and Ancients to win "clan stars" or even a couple voids if Personal Rewards are included just doesn't make sense now...

I think doing anything and I mean anything to tie the mode into current day Raid (souls, relics, ANYTHING) would go a long way in terms of making it matter but as it stands it's just a situation of scoring as little as possible during non personals and testing the waters in PR to see if they're winnable without going too hard.

If I've got a surplus of energy/gems to burn I will try and farm SD/Shogun/event dungeon during PR though.