@Maniakaal (28 December, 2014, 12:05 PM UTC):
Huh... Apparently you can win Valkyries and Cyberdogs too   ;)   lol

fakeasnever said:

@Maniakaal (28 December, 2014, 12:05 PM UTC):
Huh... Apparently you can win Valkyries and Cyberdogs too   ;)   lol

Yeah, only on the really low level ones though. 

yup batlecruiser and fighters and light tanks and  extermator it for infest

Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

@Anger (26 February, 2015, 5:29 AM UTC):
I'm pretty sure they're already on 'separate loot tables'.

You win the item as long as you clear the Infestation, and payouts shouldn't be affected by this.

Saad Malik said:

BiohazarD said:

better to hit higher levels, you get more items that way, and if you do it right you'll win back the troops you lose. 

Can you please explain what do you mean by "if you do it right"?

I mean make sure you max out your resources before you get a payout, and follow the banking chart. 

Anger said:

Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

 

I haven't found that I get worse payouts during global missions.  Payouts do seem to be lower than they were about a month ago, but I still average a 6-8% profit each time.  

@BiohazarD (26 February, 2015, 7:24 PM UTC):
ANd what's 1%? 1M resources?   :/

usually about 1.2 mil, but yeah

Saad Malik said:

and what if we put more resources in a site than required amount?

If it's a little more loaded then you will get a combined reward: Troops + resources

If it's a lot more, you can get a lot more troops then normally given to that type of level.

or. You could get 2 pay outs after eachother

Don't know the exact figures when what happens, i had them all 3 true time

leo.davi said:

tcb5eybc

What is this? Your password?

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

Maniakaal said:

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

Never send fleet units at infests, it's a waste...

Ahsan Afroze said:

Maniakaal said:

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

 

If that so then you must update your excel file available at "wiki.plarium.com".

oh and why?

@Ahsan Afroze (5 March, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC):
I don't think they belong to Maniakaal...

@Maniakaal (5 March, 2015, 4:56 PM UTC):
What is the banking value for FBGs? Their Crystal cost?   lol

No, I don't really expect anyone to test this...   lol

Only if they happen to know.

For fleets it seems to be 1 crystal = 25 resources, so

bastion = 15,000

astreus=20,000

leviathan=50,000

hellstorm=28375

and 1 battlecruiser = 24200.  So for 1 leviathan you can get 2 bcs.  I'll let you decide if it's worth it ;)

@BiohazarD (6 March, 2015, 5:27 AM UTC):
Hmm....

Y-No.   lol

@BiohazarD (10 January, 2015, 7:30 AM UTC):

I've looked into it a little, and the chart doesn't seem right... Unless this chart is the average power of Infestations.

Seems like most Infestation locations have different amounts of power, even among equal levels.

NONE said:

Hey Bio and Manikal, 

Here is the worst payout you can see. http://prntscr.com/6gcgdz. 

And slightly better but still lower than expected http://prntscr.com/6h6gg5.

And so far this is my calculation on loosing troops infest http://prntscr.com/6h6zry.

 

In summary, infest is killing me. I am loosing hell lot of troop from infest even though I have exactly followed guidelines in this forum or TD wiki.

Any thought how I can improve my infest payout? Or  Will  I be ever recover my troops back?

 

NONE

 

BiohazarD said:

Anger said:

Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

 

I haven't found that I get worse payouts during global missions.  Payouts do seem to be lower than they were about a month ago, but I still average a 6-8% profit each time.  

 

I notice that some of the times when you went for payouts you were overbanked for that level.  This prevents you from making a profit on the infest, because the most you can win from it is the banking value.  So if you put in 100 mil on something that can only pay you 80 mil, the most you can possibly get back is 80% of your investment.  So you want to have about 90% of the banking value for an infest loaded when you kill it.  If you make back more than you had loaded, it seems to be best to wait a day before sending any more troops at infests. 

Also, one way you can lose quickly is if you get resource payouts (when this happens more than the value of resources paid is subtracted from the bank).  The best way to avoid this is by maxing out your resources in your sector before you do infests. 

Saad Malik said:

Is it true that we don't get payouts from non-mission sites even after reaching the required amount of banking if there are pending mission sites?

No