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28 листоп. 2014, 13:0428.11.14
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All about infests

I create this new topic All about infests.

This is the place from now on on the forum to discuss, complain, ask, find answers and so on about infests.

I do this because on the old forum there were about 25 topics in different boards about the same thing: infests. This was getting confused and gave us a lot of extra work.

So to start clean on the new forum and make it more easy to find subjects we kindly ask you to use this topic from now on for everything concerns infests.

Please, if it is relevant, also use in the first sentence of your post the type of invest you are talking about. (normal infest, global mission, mission infests).

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28 груд. 2014, 12:0528.12.14
26 жовт. 2020, 12:03(відредаговано)
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fakeasnever said:

What units exactly can you and can you not win? (I've never seen any Bioplasma units won, by the way...)

I've only seen Troopers, every S.C.A.R. troop, Nemesis, Light Tanks, Gauss Guns, Plasma Cannons, Quantum Cannons, Disintegrators, Interceptors, Fighters, and Battlecruisers.

If anyone else has seen troops won other than these, a reply would be nice.

Thanks.

 

Thunderbolts and exterminators

28 груд. 2014, 15:1128.12.14
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@Maniakaal (28 December, 2014, 12:05 PM UTC):
Forgot about those, thanks.

 

Also, if we're doing Infestations for those Global Operations, is it better to:

A) Hit lower level Infestations, lose less of your army at a time, but retrieve less of the item at a time, or

B) Hit higher level Infestations, lose more of your army at a time, but retrieve more of the item at a time?

Yes, I know it varies from 'high' to 'low', but we'll say level 28 for high and level 16 for low.

Thanks.

28 груд. 2014, 21:0328.12.14
04.10.13
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better to hit higher levels, you get more items that way, and if you do it right you'll win back the troops you lose. 

16 лют. 2015, 16:2116.02.15
16 лют. 2015, 16:25(відредаговано)
231988

About payouts in Infestations, payouts are based on the resource value of troops lost during battles, and then payed back when the bank reaches a certain amount, etc., right?

So based on this, wouldn't it be easier to load infestations by sending troops to the wrong Infestation type?

 

Edit 1:
Yes, I know this would probably take much longer to kill an Infestation, but it's still worth thinking about, to me.

16 лют. 2015, 17:3016.02.15
26 жовт. 2020, 12:01(відредаговано)
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There are more than enough infest so that you dont have to do this.  Its a waste of time IMHO.

16 лют. 2015, 20:0716.02.15
04.10.13
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fakeasnever said:

About payouts in Infestations, payouts are based on the resource value of troops lost during battles, and then payed back when the bank reaches a certain amount, etc., right?

So based on this, wouldn't it be easier to load infestations by sending troops to the wrong Infestation type?

 

Edit 1:
Yes, I know this would probably take much longer to kill an Infestation, but it's still worth thinking about, to me.

This used to work, but now troops loaded into the wrong type of infest don't count their full banking value.  This was done because people were exploiting it to get payouts on every single infest, and it allowed them to win troops way too quickly. 

16 лют. 2015, 23:0016.02.15
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@BiohazarD (16 February, 2015, 8:07 PM UTC):
Heh, they'd have to mix it in to get anywhere without overloading the bank   lol

Seriously, a Battlecruiser has 90 or so defence... And it's like 25K resources. That's some serious banking power lol

Thanks.

26 лют. 2015, 05:2926.02.15
29 лют. 2020, 12:11(відредаговано)
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Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

 

26 лют. 2015, 13:1226.02.15
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@Anger (26 February, 2015, 5:29 AM UTC):
I'm pretty sure they're already on 'separate loot tables'.

You win the item as long as you clear the Infestation, and payouts shouldn't be affected by this.

26 лют. 2015, 19:2126.02.15
04.10.13
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Saad Malik said:

BiohazarD said:

better to hit higher levels, you get more items that way, and if you do it right you'll win back the troops you lose. 

Can you please explain what do you mean by "if you do it right"?

I mean make sure you max out your resources before you get a payout, and follow the banking chart. 

26 лют. 2015, 19:2426.02.15
04.10.13
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Anger said:

Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

 

I haven't found that I get worse payouts during global missions.  Payouts do seem to be lower than they were about a month ago, but I still average a 6-8% profit each time.  

26 лют. 2015, 22:5726.02.15
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@BiohazarD (26 February, 2015, 7:24 PM UTC):
ANd what's 1%? 1M resources?   :/

26 лют. 2015, 23:0426.02.15
04.10.13
3875

usually about 1.2 mil, but yeah

27 лют. 2015, 11:5627.02.15
26 жовт. 2020, 12:03(відредаговано)
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Saad Malik said:

and what if we put more resources in a site than required amount?

 

If it's a little more loaded then you will get a combined reward: Troops + resources

If it's a lot more, you can get a lot more troops then normally given to that type of level.

or. You could get 2 pay outs after eachother

 

Don't know the exact figures when what happens, i had them all 3 true time

 

4 берез. 2015, 21:3304.03.15
26 жовт. 2020, 12:03(відредаговано)
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leo.davi said:

tcb5eybc

What is this? Your password?

 

 

6 берез. 2015, 00:1306.03.15
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@Ahsan Afroze (5 March, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC):
I don't think they belong to Maniakaal...

 

@Maniakaal (5 March, 2015, 4:56 PM UTC):
What is the banking value for FBGs? Their Crystal cost?   lol

 

No, I don't really expect anyone to test this...   lol

Only if they happen to know.

6 берез. 2015, 05:2706.03.15
04.10.13
3875

For fleets it seems to be 1 crystal = 25 resources, so

bastion = 15,000

astreus=20,000

leviathan=50,000

hellstorm=28375

and 1 battlecruiser = 24200.  So for 1 leviathan you can get 2 bcs.  I'll let you decide if it's worth it ;)

9 лют. 2015, 04:1809.02.15
04.10.13
3875

Yes, if you hit a lower level when you have a lot of resources loaded, you get a payout but your bank decreases by more than the value of the payout (this is called overloading). 

10 січ. 2015, 17:0310.01.15
10 січ. 2015, 17:03(відредаговано)
04.10.13
3875

There's no difference, both offense and defense have the same amount of power, just different troop types and numbers. 

Force is the total amount of offense or defense points the troops in the infest have.