ok one more thing.

what attracted me to this game in the first place was its balance, between free play and pay to play.

there were plenty of options for free players to compete with pay to play people.

that has slowly been erroaded over the last twelve months, and wether plarium likes it or not

free to play players make up the greatest portion of people who play. and now all you have done

is make it so they cannot be competative.which explains why there are so many dead accounts on the map.

I have spent my fare share of my hard earned money to suport the game, but all the recent changes have not 

been in the best intrest of your customers.or your free players.

put the battleground system back the way it was so free to play people can be competative. and offer a better packages sytem that 

allows people to spend less all the time, don't keep increasing the cost of pakages each time you buy one, to the point where 

they becomes unafordable.

Nemanja said:

Instead of complaining for your loss you should be grateful to Plarium for recent BG algorithm changes. From now on no one will misuse BG's and you won't facing anymore an armies with 40m troops. 

You claim to be only a forum moderator, so where is your evidence that anyone is misusing BG's and receiving armies of 40m troops?
This is total propaganda, a smokescreen to hide the truth

Nobody has ever been given more units than their resource bank would allow - what they got out, they first paid in... same as everyone else did.

Plarium are now claiming that yellow lining is an unfair exploit, but if this were true then why did they ask the author's permission to publish this on their website?

"WHAT’S NEXT? WHY, UNDERSTANDING PAYOUTS, OF COURSE!- PART 2

11/10/2015

Ok, so 2 different types of payouts. Tell me how to fill the Bank!

The easiest way what most refer to as ‘Grinding’. This is accomplished by raiding (for the red infests) or defending (the green infests) without actually destroying them. This keeps the resources in the bank without having them paid out. Hit the infests until the status bar on them turns yellow. It’s easier to grind down the Defensive (Green) infests because the total amount of mutant or troops will be displayed on the combat report. If you are unsure if what you send will be too much and kill the infest, there is always the option to send defensive units to an offensive infest and vice versa.

This article was written by player Steven Van Scoter, who granted permission for it to be posted on Plarium.com."

http://plarium.com/en/strategy-games/total-domination/pro-mmo-players/payouts

I narrowed my comments because last several posts revealed this cheat.

Reason for change is nothing than dust in eyes.

And I don't like it.

If something takes taxes from you, there is no way to get more than you invested.

Truth? Plarium only knows.

Too many sapps Plarium spent for Celebrating. Somebody has to pay for that.

Falcon said:

This might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The coiners are seething (understandably so) because they realise they are now being fleeced. 

Good luck to plarium getting players to spend at every offer they throw our way (even if it's an 80% offer). As for me, I will save my money & wait for a better game to come along. They always do.

I am so glad you brought this point up. its one of the reason for so many of my post cause i'm upset... plarium just lost out on my 5x $49 = $250 from there package cause i'm not buying it to loose all my troops and saphires.. i'm upset cause I was trying to build an army but not stupid enough to spend money if I loose all my troops on BG's

plarium really lacks the understanding that people cant build or buy enough troops fast enough to play the game at a fast paste. it takes time and strategy to be good at this game. but really upsetting when plarium can affect your losses better then you your self can.

im having players quit over this. 

My Lords, this is my view on battelgrounds:

Battelground is store that we use to swap low level units, Infantry and Cavalry for higher obes Occults and Bestiary. In this process YOU NEED TO PAY TAX, Why? well just look at occult and bestiary units build time.
From my point of you as player, if there is glitch fix it, but there is still way for good payout / please look at photo and date /. Max payout for lvl 97 is 81 milion in resources and in this photo we have payout of 88milions in resources

Vladimir Stojanovic said:

My Lords, this is my view on battelgrounds:

Battelground is store that we use to swap low level units, Infantry and Cavalry for higher obes Occults and Bestiary. In this process YOU NEED TO PAY TAX, Why? well just look at occult and bestiary units build time.
From my point of you as player, if there is glitch fix it, but there is still way for good payout / please look at photo and date /. Max payout for lvl 97 is 81 milion in resources and in this photo we have payout of 88milions in resources

True it was for swapping low level units for high level units, but

1)more correctly, it was to convert units with high food consumption to power( be it offense or defense) ratio to units with a low ratio. this requirement is now redundant given that units are no longer dismissed for lack of food.

2)the impaired ability to bank troops because of all the mini payouts of fairly poor quality troops means that those players using lower level battlegrounds are particularly hampered in their ability to build up occult and bestiary troops. This will most affect newer players

3)depending on the purpose of the example you quote, it could be quite misleading. i seriously doubt that you sent only infantry and cavalry to this battleground since with the tax the amount of infantry and cavalry needed to fill the bank would take around 30-40 weeks to produce

So the real question is, with the nerfed payouts and the removal of need to reduce food consumption to preserve troops, why bother with battlegrounds? The constantly reducing value of tournament rewards certainly doesnt make it worthwhile.

Vladimir Stojanovic said:

My Lords, this is my view on battelgrounds:

Battelground is store that we use to swap low level units, Infantry and Cavalry for higher obes Occults and Bestiary. In this process YOU NEED TO PAY TAX, Why? well just look at occult and bestiary units build time.
From my point of you as player, if there is glitch fix it, but there is still way for good payout / please look at photo and date /. Max payout for lvl 97 is 81 milion in resources and in this photo we have payout of 88milions in resources

You have not mentioned yellow-barring. Why not?

That screenshot is from a very high level battleground on the Facebook server, where players are much stronger than plarium.com and get many free benefits from the facebook server (free resource gifts from friends, stronger leagues with many more beacons, cheaper sapphire costs for castle skins etc, facebook group pages and direct messages via facebook). It is very unfair to post it here.

Using Infantry and Cavalry this player will have sacrificed 3.5 million offense on this one battleground, but would have had many yellowed battlegrounds prepared BEFORE this nerf was added, so his resource bank will not have been weakened - hence the good payout.

but it will be MUCH more difficult now

p,s, Where do you get this mythical figure of 81 million? There is no cap on the resource bank.
I understood that the size of the bank increases after every payout, which is why it gets harder to fill it.

There would be so much less mistrust if plarium gave us a bank indicator - (like the eggtimer on bg) to tell us when it is half full, three-quarters full or nearly full.

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Tony Hobson, Each level of BG has a maximum payout figure, In the case of the aforementioned lvl97 it is 81 mil if you count only the gold and iron. But if i was counting the bank it would be 112mil because i count the food in my spreadsheet.

As in the picture it paid a little more, Thats just a bonus i imagine.

or around 7600 dragons from a lvl118

Leave me, leave me, I'm not a frog - the writhing frog said to the serpent

And what are you?

It's confidential.

Unfortunately, the exact information is classified. We gave you all information we can in the start post. There was a vulnerability in the system and some players were trying to cheat BGs. We have removed such opportunity. Unfortunately, we were unable to do it without some changes.

so the same chamges were made on sparta and soldiers inc, yet on soldiers inc you guys provided a different spiel.

you say we won't run into large armies. have those who "cheated" ,allegadly. had there armies reduced? have they had there accounts reset?

if not, then the alledged cheats are still playing with there illgotten armies, so how is we run into the massed troops in there castles on beacons that cannot be taken.

not looking for details, just honest yes no answers. not propaganda, or politcal answers that only provoke more questions.

We made some changes in all our games. Currently BGs work exactly the same in all games (except Mobile ones). 

Due to our Privacy Policy I am unable to disclose any information and the measures taken against those players which were abusing the exploit. We never disclose such information and we never will.

Bohara said:

Unfortunately, the exact information is classified. We gave you all information we can in the start post. There was a vulnerability in the system and some players were trying to cheat BGs. We have removed such opportunity. Unfortunately, we were unable to do it without some changes.

so the same chamges were made on sparta and soldiers inc, yet on soldiers inc you guys provided a different spiel.

you say we won't run into large armies. have those who "cheated" ,allegadly. had there armies reduced? have they had there accounts reset?

if not, then the alledged cheats are still playing with there illgotten armies, so how is we run into the massed troops in there castles on beacons that cannot be taken.

not looking for details, just honest yes no answers. not propaganda, or politcal answers that only provoke more questions.

they removed the food cap on large armies to make it possible to have large armies.....then make this change so we wont run into the large armies that the made the change to provide for.

https://youtu.be/qZSudYdStUI

the front fell off.    this is what its like when we talk to moderators.

http://prntscr.com/blwuh3

yes its a scam, just sent 9,015 troops strength to a lvl15 bg and only yellow bared it.

i sent nearly 2,000 more points than would normaly be nessecery,

aslo did 12 low lvl bg's and success i killed all the units i was using plus the rewards i earned for my trouble.

great sytem now, gues i had better get the credit card out now so i can buy back my army, and be competative.

great work plarium your plan to destroy everyones army is working.

Does anyone else read Jumy's posts just for a laugh? Lol, her english skills are extraordinary!!!! Jumy for Plarium President!! 

hmm 5 pages of feedback in the forum in 5 days... and almost as many views as posts that have been up for over a year.

The community has spoken... But will plarium listen???

I have already passed your feedback. However, we are not going to reverse this update.

zach-rose11 said:

Does anyone else read Jumy's posts just for a laugh? Lol, her english skills are extraordinary!!!! Jumy for Plarium President!! 

p.s. BG's are still evil!!!!!! :D

ty some points

is not my language

no alt unlike you

at least laugh and i am pleased 

ps for a short time

Skycooldude said:

hmm 5 pages of feedback in the forum in 5 days... and almost as many views as posts that have been up for over a year.

The community has spoken... But will plarium listen???

Will plarium listen LOL... that is funny.... just like how they community ask and begged in mass for plarium to change who can see defense in the beacon.

plarium doesn't listen at all and its very clear they don't... they just tell the mods on here to tell everyone they do and they get the mods to pass on all the lies.

Here is an idea. Lets have all the moderators here post there complaints publicly on this forum for plarium to read instead of trying to defend them all the time!

Has anyone else spent a bunch of money on sketches to upgrade there farms like me to support large armies