My Lords, there is nothing wrong with battelgrounds and battelground bank HAS NEVER BEEN RESETED. You all need to track and build up your battleground bank. If you have a problem, seek advice from experienced players, I'm sure that they will help.

Someone has already said that the moderator are here to maintain order in the forum so, please, do not ask me how coz Im just maintaining order in the forum.

Vladimir Stojanovic said:

My Lords, there is nothing wrong with battelgrounds and battelground bank HAS NEVER BEEN RESETED. You all need to track and build up your battleground bank. If you have a problem, seek advice from experienced players, I'm sure that they will help.

Someone has already said that the moderator are here to maintain order in the forum so, please, do not ask me how coz Im just maintaining order in the forum.

Most of us are experienced players. That is until plarium changes the mechanics then no one is an expert and we have to go through the trouble of testing to learn the new mechanics and whats been changed. And the worst part about this is that it cost us money every time plarium makes these kinds of changes. why not ask us first if we would like this or that. common sence and you wouldn't get everyone complaining and losing money. Go waste your own money not mine! I pay to play not pay to get screwed over!

Also since you say you are just here to maintain order? wow.. what kind of blow us all off type of statement is that.

since you Moderators are the middle man to plairum and us we all feel that it should be YOU the MODERATORS running back and forth to plarium letting them know "hey people of flipping out on the forums. order is lost they are demanding answers" that's what you should be doing. you want order then go get us answers! don't blow us off like we don't matter.

You say not to ask you questions cause your just maintaining order then who do we ask? You act like you where not chosen to help in more ways then just order. but if we cant ask the mods here then whats left should we all start sending support tickets about everything.. i'm sure plarium would love that.

Bohara said:

the system was not unfair, it worked just fine.

the only people who would think it to be unfair are those

who lack the inteligence to understand it.

evry change you make to this game makes me and many others

less interested in playing.

fixing something that isant broken is a wate of time and the money we give you.

put less effort into pointless changes and just make it run properly.

that would be great.

:(

They are claiming is was broken in that some players were somehow able to gain way more units than they should.  Assuming these players were exploiting a bug that the rest of the players did not know about, I can understand closing the glitch that they were exploiting.  This is, of course, assuming someone was exploiting a bug for unfair gain and not that Plarium decided we were getting too much for free from bgs.  

So, if there really were players exploiting a bug in the old bg system, how has that been dealt with other than closing the glitch?  Were their ill gotten gains taken from them?  Will there be any compensation to the players they attacked?  What about tournament rewards?  If someone was using ill gotten troops to rank higher than people who have been playing fairly, then you have several parties being injured by this bug exploit.

Due to our Privacy Policy, we strive to protect personal information of our players while it is under our control. That’s why we keep the measures taken confidential and do not disclose them to any other person.

wow this new system is the best fuckup from plarium ever.

10 bg's down and my reward has been 1 dwarf and 9 pikeman.

http://prntscr.com/bkrozb

please explain to me how this is better.

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

And one last thing I would like say.. And I even tried to find the post on the forums from plairum with no luck but maybe someone else can help find it

About a year ago did plairum not say how they wanted large armies cause they wanted to see epic battles?

They want to see epic battles, but they also want to see us pay real money for them rather than earn our troops through planning and patience. 

 Also, there must still be some glitches with their update to bgs because I did 10 lvl 30-40 bgs and got only 1 payout.  If we should never leave a bg empty handed, then shouldn't I have at least gotten one unit from each?  Or are they counting equipment as part of the payout now?  Note:  These were untouched bgs, not ones yellow barred prior to the bg change.

Another concern is they say it will take longer to get the payout if we yellow bar a bg.  I find that when yellow barring, it takes more troops to defeat the bg than if I send one massive wave to beat it in one go.  So, if yellow barring actually fills the resource bank more per each bg we do, then why would it take longer for us to get a payout using this tactic?  Would our payout when we do finally get it be larger than if we just one shot each bg?  Logically, it should since we paid more into the bank.

Unfortunately, I am unable to answer this question without sharing confidential information.

are the moderators reporting back to the developers all the disdain for the game?

the developers understand how upset every one is with the game?

Lord Bohara,

as you can see we are Forum moderators not Game moderators. Our role is to maintain culture of dialogue in this Forum and to advice players. Plarium employess are seriously considering all of your remarks.

Nemanja said:

Lord Bohara,

as you can see we are Forum moderators not Game moderators. Our role is to maintain culture of dialogue in this Forum and to advice players. Plarium employess are seriously considering all of your remarks.

Instead of complaining for your loss you should be grateful to Plarium for recent BG algorithm changes. From now on no one will misuse BG's and you won't facing anymore an armies with 40m troops. 

if the system was so unfair why dont they remove the armies from those people instead of taking away the opertunity of others to be able to compete with them.

further more the only thing that greatly unbalanced the game was taking away the rule that troops would leave your service if you could not feed them. and we all know that this was done in conjunction with the release of plariums big troop packages. otherwise people would not buy them.

I saw few comments here and in game chat claiming that there is a way of doing BGs and actually gaining troops and power, an exploit. People I asked either didnt know or didnt trusted me enough to share that information with me.

Can someone confirm that that was the case and this is why Plarium changed BGs mechanics. Or did that great method was yellow barring and in that case shame on you Plarium.

Dear Lords and Ladys

Lord Nemanja is right, we are only mods in forum themes. we only watch the forums and take care of them answering inside our knowledgmets and posibilites. we are also players of this game and our doubts with new systems are the same as yours.

about this change, i still cant talk about it cause it has been to recent and still cant check what the changings affects to BGs. my army its not so long and cant waste them in bgs cause the problems you have to fill your bank are the same (more or less) than mine.

i think this is not bat at all. those people who mastered the strategy and knowledge of doing bgs and keep the secret for themselves sure have more motives to blaming than those who still are stuyding how to get good payouts. 

personally, i prefer not getting any reward of finishing some bgs (like used to be) cause it means my bank is increasing in a constant way. now if i receive a bunch of a small rewards or medium rewards my bank is constantly increasing and decreasing in such way that i lost all my tracking without knowing if my bank is negative, positive or whatever it go, and the big payout get a significant time to arrive.

hope we all can help one each others to understand the system to be able for ALL PEOPLE to get their huge payouts, sure then we all will be more happy than now.

If the system is only knew by a bunch of players, the frustrating of the rest grows and grows in such way that happens all this issues

hope we all we able to understand it in a near future

Regards

Nemanja said:

Lord Bohara,

as you can see we are Forum moderators not Game moderators. Our role is to maintain culture of dialogue in this Forum and to advice players. Plarium employess are seriously considering all of your remarks.

Instead of complaining for your loss you should be grateful to Plarium for recent BG algorithm changes. From now on no one will misuse BG's and you won't facing anymore an armies with 40m troops. 

really? are you telling us all the truth here. No one is going to ever get hit again with a 40mil army cause they changed the battle grounds.

Personally I believe you are talking out your azz with more BS telling us more lies.

guys there is no big secret, all the required info is available from the forum. or by searching the net.

clearing bg's and getting rewards all the time wrecks the bank. even turning the rewards straight back into the bank will eventually mean that the amount you have banked will be way higher than the possible reward.

Stormfall said:

I saw few comments here and in game chat claiming that there is a way of doing BGs and actually gaining troops and power, an exploit. People I asked either didnt know or didnt trusted me enough to share that information with me.

Can someone confirm that that was the case and this is why Plarium changed BGs mechanics. Or did that great method was yellow barring and in that case shame on you Plarium.

17 September, 2015, 11:50 AM UTC

There are certain core ideas that are needed to clearly understand

These ideas will help players to better understand the system and get rewards.

1) BG’s Works on a bank system

2) The Big Rewards are given once the bank has been paid, plus interest

3) Any Small Reward increases the bank, plus interest

4) Every BG needs its own amount banked to get a big payout from it.

The bank represents a total value of the last reward you received from a Regular Bg. This value must be considered a loan, and the next reward will arrive after successfully eliminating a mission once the loan has been satisfied, with interest.

Nothing in this game is a guarantee, especially when dealing with mathematical algorithms. There are variances, changes and randomness added all the time.

HOW WE HAVE CONSTRUCT OUR BANK

The bank value, also known as ‘The Bank’ is what you need to repay before you get another reward. By adding 12.5% interest to the bank, you reduce the chance of coming in under your bank. Technically the bank should reward you as soon as you reach it, however, it doesn’t always. The Interest will reduce your efficiency in reaching the bank, but help ensure a reward when you arrive.

Can the interest be reduced? Yes, but you run the chance of underestimating and by undershooting the bank on a successful elimination, may either run out of missions or overspend by too much to make the next reward profitable.

Ok, then lets go with an example:

I have received my last big payout lets say, 2800 necromancers.

I have to construct my bank from now and the first i have to do is to set how much in resources are those 2800 necromancers, so i realized they are 29.708.000 in resources.

Now i have to add the interest of 12.5% to that amount: 3.713.500 so my new bank to construct is a total of 33.421.500 of resources.

I begin to spend troops yellowing all bgs i have in my Eagle nest and in some moment i know i have spent 34.000.000. Then is the moment to see which bg is going to pay me. I noticed i have yellowed a level 65 which need arround 32.500.000 to bank for a payout, so i finish it and i should receive a big payout from it.

The process beguins again.

What happens if i finish one bg during my banking run and it pays me a small payout???

Then you have to calculate how much in resources is that small payout.

In the example, that i have to bank 33.421.500 for my big payout i finish one bg and it pays me let say 210 necromancers in a level 58. Then we have to add that amount to the bank plus the 12.5% of interest.

210 necros  2.228.100 resources

12.5% interés  278.512 resources

Total to add _>2.506.612

So now my new bank to construct is 33.421.500 + 2.506.612 = 35.928.112 resources.

This have to be done for every small payout i could get during my banking run.

The point is completing the bank and get the big payout when bank is full and then start all process again.

Hope this can help you all.

Regards

this was posted by a forum moderator.

no big secret. no loophole to be exploited by a select few.

:/

Nemanja said:

Lord Bohara,

as you can see we are Forum moderators not Game moderators. Our role is to maintain culture of dialogue in this Forum and to advice players. Plarium employess are seriously considering all of your remarks.

Instead of complaining for your loss you should be grateful to Plarium for recent BG algorithm changes. From now on no one will misuse BG's and you won't facing anymore an armies with 40m troops. 

also you say "instead of complaining for your loss you should be greatful to plarium?

So I spend a few hundred dollars and buy and build an army and I should be happy with plarium when I loose everything cause they wanted to make changes to there BG's

guess you play for free cause the coiners are mad!

how would you feel if you spent $500 on 1000 dragons only to have plarium turn around and change there strength from dragon to the strength of a pikeman... bet you would feel really ripped off right?

you spend money for something and then they change it to screw you over.

Bohara said:

guys there is no big secret, all the required info is available from the forum. or by searching the net.

clearing bg's and getting rewards all the time wrecks the bank. even turning the rewards straight back into the bank will eventually mean that the amount you have banked will be way higher than the possible reward.

a simple sread sheet to track your losses and rewards is all you need to keep track

I do BG's every day. building up bit by bit. but today I loose pretty much everything I have worked to build since the start of server 2.

sure lots of things are still the same but these changes are bad really really bad.. we will no longer be able to build armies like we used to its just going to eat up our troops.

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

Bohara said:

guys there is no big secret, all the required info is available from the forum. or by searching the net.

clearing bg's and getting rewards all the time wrecks the bank. even turning the rewards straight back into the bank will eventually mean that the amount you have banked will be way higher than the possible reward.

a simple sread sheet to track your losses and rewards is all you need to keep track

I do BG's every day. building up bit by bit. but today I loose pretty much everything I have worked to build since the start of server 2.

sure lots of things are still the same but these changes are bad really really bad.. we will no longer be able to build armies like we used to its just going to eat up our troops.

we loose way more then we gain now..

which brings back to the point that only one being disadvantaged by the old system was plarium, and there was no select few eploiting the system.

just a big load of horse shit to force people to purchase there big armies instead of earning them by playing the game.

I use the term horse shit as it the poorest form of natural fertaliser, were as bull shit is slightly better.

:)

This might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The coiners are seething (understandably so) because they realise they are now being fleeced. 

Good luck to plarium getting players to spend at every offer they throw our way (even if it's an 80% offer). As for me, I will save my money & wait for a better game to come along. They always do.

Basically, and finally, Mods are on their right places, and we can talk on forum without their constantly mining our conversations.

Long time ago we stated need for someone who really know how to answer on our questions, we asked for Developer, or any other title, but someone from who we can bring to us right information.