Hey Alyona,

My last big payout was not big enough. I did most of the PPs in August so August would be the time frame.

Thank you. 

Looking forward to your feedback :)

I have some good news for you. I hope

As you probably know I've recently passed your feedback about PPs to our devs. They understand your position, but before making any changes they want to analyze their own data as well. So they are waiting for analytics data to check the activity of players on PPs and make a decision afterwards. Right now I don't know if they decide to change PPs or leave them as they are.

As soon as I get more information, I will let you know.

lost over 32 millions army, by PP.

best payout was a 22 millions, from over 3 weeks.

since then, done all high level positions, received no more than that! so, question is, a PP level 149-150 position is able  

to give back my 32 millions or is limited at 22 millions, and must play a lower position for the rest? 

all is good Pala you know that :)

Just checked that. All good! I haven't found any issues there.

when Archons announce that they had 1 million and only got 500k or any number, you are forgetting that you are not getting paid in power points your getting paid in resources you spent, I was told that by Plarium support and they showed me all the men I lost and all the men they gave me in return for my loses in resources, weather it be in actual resources or higher level men in the same amount of equal resources. the reason why it looks like you didnt get back what you spent is because they dont USE power points to pay you back, and that is the reason they give you higher level warriors because they are worth less power points but cost more resources. here is a small example you can use it at higher levels.

if you lose 200 javs which cost you 2400 in resources taking a position they may pay you back with 1 agema which cost 2400 in resources. this is an example to see how the numbers are in there favor, its not and actual position, just to show you how they pay you back your resources spent. 

the problem is one agema is only worth 1640 in power points and the 200 javs is 3800 power points, so you only got back 1/2 of the power points, but they pay you back the amount of resources you lost in men. You didnt think they gave you higher level men to help you out. LOL.

I know its a ripp off but if you include the higher level men that you might not able to buy and the general items you win and if there is a tournament to help your coalition or a solo tournament, and the quest with the xp points to help you to get to the next level, its not that big of a lost, also use your generals bonus, save two items of each item example one shield helps javs and heavies and the other shields helps phalanx and cavls more than the other, swicth them back and forth depending on which men you use to take a postion. 

As GetInToIt said above the issue is not that the Persian Positions are a riddle to be solved, the issue is that every time the players manage to solve the riddle you change the riddle at the players expense.

Now doing so to prevent the use of an actual cheat or hack is one thing. But since you alone have continually both set and modified the riddle to be solved by the players themselves, the only blame and fault here is yours and yours alone. For which it is then absolute BS for you to state that any player has been purposely and unfairly exploiting the very riddle that you alone have set before them to solve and which they have simply and successfully solved on their own without a solitary clue or one bit of explanation, direction or guidance from you. And while this latest change may now prevent this so-called "exploration", that neither explains nor accounts for all the other continuous changes that have been made to the Persian Positions now does it?

For which and as evidenced here by a number of the responses above; most players do not have the basic knowledge, the time or the money to ever devote to, so as to have ever learned how to even basically play the Persian Positions with any degree of success at some point and time.

For which you not only keep changing the answer to the riddle thus making it only that much harder for them to ever do so. But which you continue to claim that each and every such new change is expressly for their benefit as to making things more fairer, fun and interesting whilst you sit back and watch them throw one army after another away in trying to solve your ever changing riddle.

you should write support and tell them to show you, they showed me the men i lost and the men they gave me it was about 90% of what i lost.

you should write support and tell them to show you, they showed me the men i lost and the men they gave me it was about 90% of what i lost.

JackTheRipper said:

good stuff 

You should be a moderator.

You have the knowledge and you speak their language.

I spend some time on my lunch break now to browse through the forum and have read most of the PP posts.

It is amazing how similar the feedback here is to what you see on online gambling sites. Casinos will tell you that the jackpot will pay out eventually (and it will). If you did your research on PPs, you will CLEARLY notice that there is an element of randomness in PP payouts (regardless of what developers or moderators say to you, because you see that from player feedback.) Therefore, if you gambled your entire army on PPs, and complain about the losses, then you are an idiot to be honest.

A message on PPs to everyone: 1: Gamble responsibly, 2: Don't mix PPs and alcohol, 3: Don't do PPs when you've had a crappy day.

A message to players who lost everything on PPs and who complained: Never, ever, visit an actual casino in your life.

The greedy usually either make a huge fortune, or go bankrupt.

Dear Plarium, 

wouldn't it be wiser to publish an explanation that elaborates how the positions algorithms indeed are calculating gains, losses and transformations of troops, and for once explain how the "bank" works. 

We players would appreciate to know what we are in fact "playing" with and for - we'd like to gain from our efforts, and spending. 

Consuming time and money on your platform is no reward if it continues to look more like a rip-off than entertainment, and by understanding all the rules of play it would facilitate to enjoy what is supposed to be a tactical game.

I trust you understand our discontent position and will begin with better clarifications soon. Simply saying that some players figured a way to benefit from a flaw is not enough, we would like to know if the positions are a draining pit for troops (and for some their credit card) or not - and please do not reply that it is for us to figure this out on our own, thanks.

I suppose we are all anxious to see your response to the present inquiry, ignoring it would certainly not benefit you ..

This information is confidential. It is for internal use only. 

Positions have always been a riddle which our players were supposed to solve. 

if you burn much more troops then needed,after you get big payout from 1 position under top position,you will get bigger payout from top position  when you going to reset bank,i think there is our chance to get more then you could from each lvl,i did that many times,so i know what i'm talking about^^

plarium,you should explane better,and not like you did,you should just post that interest is bigger now and not to tell players to play from 1 hit,because they already lost troops.1 more thing is very interesting,if someone play stormfall,just look how plarium explaned there:we  changed system because players got much more troops than you should,so i am sure that what nikita and friends posted in sparta is a LIE,and it is very wrong from plarium to do to players(costumers),if i am Leonidas,or someone from plarium i would apologize to all players and revive for free all troops to all players who listen to plarium "moderators" and lost all troops from 1 hit.moderators are just regular players who comunicate with us,but they dont know nothing how system works(only plarium knows that)and they shouldnt post anything here,just write:sorry,we dont know nothing,better then to tell players to play from 1 hit,which is pure suicide on high lvl positions!!!!

Lyderis said:

not that i have ever done that, but i would assume

kakos- feel free to listen to any noob expersts u know.

Here you DO say that you "assume", whereas before you were presenting your statements as fact.

it is a casino..and Alyona stop delete my messages...

ask your boss how much money you going low????

bloke- not that i have ever done that, but i would assume, if u got 17 k promachos, u prekill some pp to 1 bar, loosing like 18 k promachos, then get paid 17 k promachos, then kill all prekilled pp, propably would end up with 20 k of those then. and yes, it would be a good idea to stop playing pp after reaching cap of high lvl pp. this is why it should reset after hitting lvl 140 pp, but no1 wants to change that.

Alyone,why you dont tell all players where are we with the bank atm?

it would help us all a lot :)

Alyone,why you dont tell all players where are we with the bank atm?

it would help us all a lot :)

Tonaya