Hackerista said:

ONLINE.ALIEN said:

can confirm, 1 bar tactic is everywhere on google as old as can be.

Think they hit the nail in their own coffin here. Game is already weak as hell, i never played much persians, but people gonna be loosing interest fast.

The older players are the ones playing persians almost only,if the reward for doing it is really so low, then how they gonna have to play their game. I presume plarium thinks players dont like rewards and just gonna cash out for a game which doesnt supply fun. I guess they removed the fun for many of those players. U have to be able to grow your army by playing the game in some way. Pvp doesnt work since rewards are too low, so u loose more then u get. Not playing the game and just building seems about the only way but well that doesnt sound like fun and pointless. So the only way to grow your army was persians if u did it right, thats been broken down.

Greetings Archon, 

I do not think players consider that exploit 'having fun' and a legit way to grow their armies. Now, the game is more fair and more fun for people not having to fight huge armies.

If you want fair then erase all transactions in the game and also erase armies from long time players or just ones with big armies. I mean it's unfair for other people who don't spend or have played for years. See the fault in logic of being fair? Besides all the update did was prevent new players from "exploiting" persians. Those exploited armies are still out there. I'd like to know how Plarium plans to handle the exploited armies but I'm sure they won't until it costs them money or something.

Hackerista said:

I do not think players consider that exploit 'having fun' and a legit way to grow their armies. Now, the game is more fair and more fun for people not having to fight huge armies.

so how about this?

Turkmenoktem said:

But still plarium has the nerve to label 1000s of players using the one-bar-method as "thieves" under the pretense of "exploiting a vulnerability" although it could be used by simply anyone. Why bother changing the mechanics instead of including the method in their official tutorials and being fair to everyone?

Hey guys, the fact anything is on YouTube or whatever has nothing to do with the fact it's not a bug exploit...

Actually, before they introduced systematic partial rewards, the way you played the Persians had no effect at all anyway, so advising to play that way wasn't a problem for Plarium.

However, since this method exploited a bug after they added them, it actually gave bigger payouts, so once they've realized this, they fixed the bug.

End of the story.

Actually, just to be cynical, you reported yourselves by publishing the trick ! ^^

ONLINE.ALIEN said:

can confirm, 1 bar tactic is everywhere on google as old as can be.

Think they hit the nail in their own coffin here. Game is already weak as hell, i never played much persians, but people gonna be loosing interest fast.

The older players are the ones playing persians almost only,if the reward for doing it is really so low, then how they gonna have to play their game. I presume plarium thinks players dont like rewards and just gonna cash out for a game which doesnt supply fun. I guess they removed the fun for many of those players. U have to be able to grow your army by playing the game in some way. Pvp doesnt work since rewards are too low, so u loose more then u get. Not playing the game and just building seems about the only way but well that doesnt sound like fun and pointless. So the only way to grow your army was persians if u did it right, thats been broken down.

Greetings Archon, 

I do not think players consider that exploit 'having fun' and a legit way to grow their armies. Now, the game is more fair and more fun for people not having to fight huge armies.

lil_uzi94 said:

How was it exploiting? You have 0 idea how PP worked.  stop trying to defend plarium on issues you clearly have no idea. 

Greetings Archon!

 Please do post your knowledge on how Persian Positions worked ! Players would appreciate it more !

Hackerista said:

 Please do post your knowledge on how Persian Positions worked ! Players would appreciate it more !

Oh yes indeed.. but I won't be holding my breath..  

turkmenoktem said:

Thatbloke, so are you - like Hackerista - saying that Plarium did this because they cared about the "balance" between players? It seems to me that Plarium is more interested in their own "balance", would you not agree? Oh hold on... of course you wouldn't. Miraculously all the moderators and employees think that this was an act of justice to... umm... increase the fun of the game? Such coincidence!

At least, that's the reason they've referred to. :p

I let you free to interpret this... ^^

OK, I've paid back my last payout on the levels 76 to 100 (currently 96) range by far, so it looks like my first hypothesis (the bank is actually calculated by summing up the payout and the previous partials) should be the right one.

My next payout should hopefully drop on my next attempt, so Id rather hit a high level position. :p

Next time i'll try chipping down positions without finishing them. I should have enough spare defense to use them there. Then I'll see if finishing positions on the go would trigger the next payout sooner, and how it would impact the next bank.

Maybe I should experiment on a lower lavels range, though. ^^

"You've to lose big to get big reward"

also if moderators said other, the truth is there are less rewards in pp. i'm at 55 pp lvl and i never used tricks. My army before was growing also if i always used mounted peltasts for pp. now i just loose a lot to get some, sometimes (anyway less than before). i don't need to apply algorithms (and don't want to) to understand this. Like the others even I'm getting bored of playing. This policy of pushing to spend money (and I spent some) it's tiring me. I think for a while I will get to play in happy farmer mode. 

off topic (but we get the idea of the respect that you have for the players): do we want to talk about the useless 60 sketches that plarium gave us as amazing gift? you just need to buy other...

hahaha  it is so funny to read everyone's  complaints.   some people really just believe this is a casino,   maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel    and     possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2.

hahaha  it is so funny to read everyone's  complaints.   some people really just believe this is a casino,   maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel    and     possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2.

patrick.mcgraw21 said:

hahaha  it is so funny to read everyone's  complaints.   some people really just believe this is a casino,   maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel    and     possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2.

.. and maybe you should go read: Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28..

lil_uzi94 said:

u need to start doing PP. I was wrong, the new system is even better than the partial system!!! do it at low level noob. easy win for u. at worst u lose 200-300k!!

I have never stopped doing PPs, I only do them when the XP tournament is on and I am only up to lvl70.

Now, about you.. if you have some knowledge that you would like to share about PPs, please do so.. tell us what is the best way to play them, make a guide or something and maybe people will take you seriously.. 

Posting tedious/creepy/cryptic nonsense all the time and telling players that they don't know what they're talking about, it's quite boring you know.. 

I remember you posting that you were "trying to teach the whole Coa how to play PPs but they wouldn't listen".. I wonder why! 

Edit: Oops, almost forgot.. you should also read that "Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28"l! lol 

lil_uzi94 said:

u need to start doing PP. I was wrong, the new system is even better than the partial system!!! do it at low level noob. easy win for u. at worst u lose 200-300k!!

I have never stopped doing PPs, I only do them when the XP tournament is on and I am only up to lvl70.

Now, about you.. if you have some knowledge that you would like to share about PPs, please do so.. tell us what is the best way to play them, make a guide or something and maybe people will take you seriously.. 

Posting tedious/creepy/cryptic nonsense all the time and telling players that they don't know what they're talking about, it's quite boring you know.. 

I remember you posting that you were "trying to teach the whole Coa how to play PPs but they wouldn't listen".. I wonder why! 

Edit: Oops, almost forgot.. you should also read that "Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28"l! lol 

patrick.mcgraw21 said: hahaha it is so funny to read everyone's complaints. some people really just believe this is a casino, maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel and possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2. .. and maybe you should go read: Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28..

patrick.mcgraw21 said: hahaha it is so funny to read everyone's complaints. some people really just believe this is a casino, maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel and possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2. .. and maybe you should go read: Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28..

I'm pretty sure literature  has nothing to do with a game of numbers,   but  I read it  and still makes no sense, for this game anyways 

Think they should update their own website, mmo master tips for persians 2015, explains the tactic they now call unfair on their bloody own website.

Telling everyone to do it, then call everyone cheaters and the cheating method is still under tips.

Only thing i can say is: WTF