GoodGuyGlen said:
Why are you comparing Tayrel to Tomb Lord? Their skill sets are very different.
Not at all. They both have the same def and atk down. They simply apply it differently. Sure, there are some differences between them, but in arena, they play the same role, Tayrel just plays that role MUCH better. The AoE atk down Tomb Lord offers over Tayrel doesn't compensate for the lack of damage from him, nor does it compensate for the fact that it has a cd of 5 turns on his A3.
And I am well aware of teams with 150k team power and higher. There is no "power shift." Not sure if you're intentionally making that up to try to make a pseudo-point, or if you've somehow convinced yourself of that, but it is not true. Go ahead and take a look at my latest video for arena. I'm taking out teams with 130-165k with ease with Martyr, Nethril, Khatun, and Tayrel. The video speaks for itself, but you clearly instead decided to just criticize without even actually watching it, because every one of your points here was addressed in it.
Who do you feel would be a more fair comparison to Tomb Lord? He is an atk down, def down champion. Hardly a poisoner with only 1 turn on his poisons after the nerf. I can give a list of champions who do atk down, def down, and poison FAR better than him who DO NOT depend on 100% crit rate to do it. *IF* his A3 at least did some damage, then that would be a different story, or *IF* the extra turn depended on the turn meter of the enemy rather than their HP, that would be an improvement at least. Or, *IF* his A3 could be reduced to 4 turns instead of the 5 it is at currently (6 turns without spending hundreds $$$ on tomes).
And let me ask you, since you seem to think he is good in dungeons, what do YOU do to survive while you are waiting for the cooldown on his A3 and the boss has full atk? You use a substitute? Why do that when Tayrel can keep up atk down on a boss 100% of the time? I have a hard time believing you know as much as you are trying to act like you do, yet seem to think that Tomb Lord and Tayrel don't serve the same purpose when they are both atk and def down champions...
And you clearly didn't read the part where I said Tomb Lord is ok now, just not that great, especially for a legendary. Imo, he's not worth wasting the tomes on. His atk and def down are not reliable, as even maxed on tomes, it's a 5-turn cd and only debuffs for 2 turns. I could name dozens and dozens of epics that are FAR more useful than him in dungeons. Heck, I can name RARES that are better than him.
And I have multiple clan members who farm stage 20, three of which have Tomb Lord. Not a single one of them uses Tomb Lord on it. His A3 has a 5 turn cd at best, which means most the time, it won't be on the Spiderlings (or the boss). And as far as the boss spider herself, Tayrel can easily do an atk down on it just like Tomb Lord does, only he can KEEP that debuff up 100% of the time. Tomb Lord cannot. That's the problem - on Stage 20 bosses, you want a CONSTANT atk down to keep from getting one-shot. Tayrel can do it, Tomb Lord can't.