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Jun 25, 2016, 08:3906/25/16
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Okay I was going to keep quiet but this is a real pain.The other games these new systems has been implemented on I play and I can tell you they dont do prizes there as you lose much much more than we use to here.

There is a reason why the games have different play styles and strategies and it should have been kept like that.We dont want all the games to be exact copies of the other.Pirates is my main game and I play 2 of the others but this prizes system just doesnt work.Ask any of the bigger players on stormfall etc and they will confirm no one does high level prizes anymore.They are forcing us to take a fun part of the game out of our daily game play.

Just my 2 cents.

PS:English isnt my native language so EXCUSE any misspellings or pronunctiation errors If I made any.
Jun 25, 2016, 08:5106/25/16
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Jun 25, 2016, 08:5306/25/16
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We moderators had a detailed chat last night about this issue. & we are trying our best to not go over board specially after the kind of behaviour some people are expressing here.


Even all the above things has been violated we are still playing cool.


I am hoping you understand the situation and act accordingly.


Jun 25, 2016, 08:5606/25/16
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I didnt violate any forum rules.I voiced my opinion as its the reason forums are there for.We are all unhappy about this new system and we have the right to say it.
Jun 25, 2016, 09:0506/25/16
Jun 25, 2016, 09:17(edited)
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@FaZi, calling you out on your rudeness is not being rude. Moreover, you and I are different because as a moderator, at least within the context of this game forum, you have a higher standard that you should follow in terms of how you speak with the players and how you conduct yourself in the forum. The players post their complaints and issues here in the hopes of letting Plarium know their grievances in order to ensure that the game stays enjoyable. You are in fact the one treating this forum like it is your property. I am not the dictating that you should act with respect and politeness, as well as with the necessary patience, in dealing with players here. Logic, common sense, and decency dictate that. Read your replies again and see how arrogant you sound:

"Yes forum regulations says no duplication of posts & linda posted that message in 3 different threads.

Enough have been said which means there are examples given from other player who got the pay out & doing fine in the prizes.

If someone won't want to understand or maybe have a dumb mind than we can't say anything about that.

You can discuss all that you want but do not repeat it over & over again. Put some sense into your next reply.

Respect the forum rules, respect the company who is giving you this free game to play (spending money is your choice, You were never asked to do so) & on top of that respect the fellow players. 


I hardly put things from a mod point of view & mentioned that in multiple threads regarding this issue. We are players, we are volunteers & atleast i won't get dictated by bunch of idiots, who are talking nonsense everywhere and guiding me about things that i have to follow."


CLEARLY, FaZi, you are the one violating the very terms and conditions you have posted here, using insulting words such as "dumb" and "idiots".


I pointed out in my earlier post, which you deleted, that your low prize pts indicate that you haven't reached the high prize levels. This is precisely why your replies to the players complaining do not address their concerns. You do not understand their complaints because the update do not affect you. The ones heavily affected are the players who have reached levels 80+ to 100+, more or less, where millions and millions of their forces are stuck in the bank. 

Jun 25, 2016, 09:0806/25/16
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And do not lump together the other moderators and administrators with you. All of them have acted appropriately and with respect in dealing with the players' complaints. None of them lashed out at the players like you did. None of them abused their authority. Even with repeated similar complaints, they all responded to said complaints in a polite manner. 
Jun 25, 2016, 09:2906/25/16
Jun 25, 2016, 09:30(edited)
09/21/15
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OPEN YOUR EYES & READ MY RESPONSE TO YOUR THAT POST AS WELL

Quoted:

"Additionally i may have few points in prizes and maybe a lot less experience than others but i managed to develop & learn strategies managed payouts in 5 figures and did well in the prizes. & i am not just playing this game of plarium. "


I would add and i am willing to learn to build a new strategy. If I am low in pirates it does not mean in all games, keep that in mind.


& stop talking about others, I know very well how much experienced you are.



I didn't ask you to point out which rule i broke or which not & you don't have any authority to point that out either.


In my violated forum rules, there are 5 offenses that you have made until yet. Next upcoming is ban, keep that in mind as well.


Consider my this message a final 3rd verbal warning. and it just on the edge of where things get worse.

Jun 25, 2016, 09:4806/25/16
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One of you has been banned, Now be careful.


If i break the terms & condition it is my community manager who will see, but if it is you than we are the one who will proceed.


Jun 25, 2016, 11:2406/25/16
Jul 18, 2019, 12:05(edited)
01/03/15
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well ...i was not going to say moire on this... but ..WOW.. i can not believe Fazi's atitude... (even highlighting my spelling mistake..lmao)

Fazi, you have changed this thread into one about general rules and how we should all love the way changes by plarium affect all of our gaming.

i for one do not care about you... your conduct on here speaks for itself as to what kind of person you are and you are certainly not one of us gamers, maybe that is why you asked to become the guy who dishes out this drawl to us gamers insdtead of being with us.

now ENOUGH of this upset your causing..... are all these complaints from all us players unfounded?...NO,.. or we would all not be on here complaining and having to put up with dealing  with crass remarks from yourself if it was.

we don't want to get into a slanging match with you.. we just want to the previous PRIZE system reinstalled.

i for one wil not be playing them anymore, nor the treasure islands... so as a level 86 player who has learned all discoveries and updated all of them, what is left of this game to play now that all these negative changes have been made? Plarium has ruined the game more and more till us guys who normally put up with it have had to come on here and voice our opposition only to be rudely shot down by Fazi the games awesome representative

you may ban me now for what i have said Fazi but it will only hasten my departure from playing all plarium games, with the money i spend i am sure they will miss me and others like me far more than having a fellow like you representing them.... the other Moderators must put their heads in their hands every time you write something here... you should resign your position after the way you have handled these threads.

Bartholomew Roberts.

Jun 25, 2016, 11:3606/25/16
Aug 27, 2019, 12:04(edited)
12/13/14
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FAZI, You are well out of order here, you are breaking the forum rules, insulting players and now banning them ?

This is not right
Jun 25, 2016, 11:4406/25/16
09/21/15
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I am not here to ban everyone for things that are tolerateable but if things are going over board i have to. Such as in Arya case she left the main topic completely & telling me about my exp and how should i mod and all that.


Regarding your reply there is nothing to ban for, you can disagree with me and you can criticize me as well but do not convert into something like a war.


I am not telling to love all the changes made by plarium but i am telling you that plarium made their point clear that prize change will not be reverted.


And with that taken into consideration i was trying to tell you people that stop complaining and start working but than a series of personal attacks, a whole load of similar replies and a war like situation was started. Yesterday i read from my last reply to page 3 & that took one hour and when i summarize all of it it was just 1 point put the old system back.


Despite my fellow mod giving examples of system i quoted example, i tried to explain how to achieve bigger payout but people do not want to listen at all. This will drive anyone crazy.


I have been forced by multiple members to go hard in this thread. I do not take pride in that but i won't even make myself 100% responsible of this.


I didn't go hard on some because their selection of words was pretty good and they represented the point with out any argument but than there are some who are coming to tell me what should i do, what plarium should do & all that.


Dictation is not something that is appreciated at all and i will advise you to keep yourself away from this.


Now if i will point things that were out of context you will again complain about that so let me just ignore that.

what will happen to me, either i have to resign or not it is in the hands of community manager not in the hands of you or someone else. If i am a mod for more than 9 months there is something due to which i am around. so i advise again do not come to this point.


In earlier replies one of fellow mod tried to explain and something bad was said about her, we will not stand such things against our fellow team members.


The final conclusion of this thread is


Plarium is not interested in changing this prize reward system. If i was in your place i wouldn't waste my time dictating others i will simply go and try to figure something out for bigger rewards.


But only wise men will do that.


Jun 25, 2016, 11:4906/25/16
Aug 27, 2019, 12:04(edited)
12/13/14
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If someone won't want to understand or maybe have a dumb mind than we can't say anything about that.


This is a direct quote from you FAZI,  anyone else would be rightly banned for personal insults yet you ban other players....how is this fair or right ?

Jun 25, 2016, 11:5606/25/16
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Limey you are upto dictation again.


Do not do that now, consider this a fair warning.


I will repeat plarium policy


If a moderator is acting wrongly, his CM will take care of this so leave it to my CM, okay?


If a player is going wrong, i need to handle that.



After my that sentence i explained the situation and also explained the facts. Mind reading that?


This is going to be the last irrelevant reply in this thread.


If anything other than prizes was included in some player reply. I am going to take a strict action on that. & i think i am very clear on that.


I would like to read only & only about prizes, not some dictation or about how i should react.


Jun 25, 2016, 12:2006/25/16
Jul 18, 2019, 12:05(edited)
01/03/15
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dictation... DICTATES.... OMG.. Fazi

what are you doing? what is Plarium doing if not DICTATING.

Dictating 'take it or leave it'... dictating 'put up or shutup'... dictating that whatever the players wishes are shall always be overriden as obviously the players wishes do not matter as palrium DICTATES.

dictating as a dictatorship and deffo not listening to us players, there customers.... there is no democracy for players, just a dictatorship as you have pointed out Fazi.

We the players are NOT dictating we are ASKING, maybe even demanding to have the old system reinstated, which we all know is a better and fairer system than this new one is..

YOU are the ones DICTATING.... UNLISTENING... UNREGUARDING..... your the ones denegrating the game against the players wishes.

you want to try a bit more democracy and less of your unbending DICTATORSHIP.
Jun 25, 2016, 12:2106/25/16
01/22/16
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Folks - lets keep away from comments good and/or bad about the responses being made by the moderators.  Just focus on the main purpose of this thread which is the PRIZES.


Regardless of whether or not Plarium will bring back the prizes to what they WERE, I personally feel and can get the direction the players are trying to establish within this thread is that Plarium will be loosing a lot of money from this change in Pirates.  All because of this change with the Prizes!  THIS is the focus this thread needs to continue with.


I know that Plarium will NOT be getting further funds from my hard earned money due to this change.  And PLARIUM - you can look at my account to see just how much I have put into this game.  It at least has paid more than a salary of one of your employees!  And to loose this and its continuing support, well, I'd reconsider bringing back the prizes to the way they were.


Now, any further comments on this thread - lets keep it focused guys.  Thank you.


Beafraid
Jun 25, 2016, 12:3806/25/16
03/27/14
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Can we please keep this thread about the update, it's really moving off the topic and getting us no where


I do understand the concerns of the game here and do wish you to come in here and express your concerns that is why we have the forums 

as well as your questions .... 


This update has caused a huge stir in all the games, and yet just like the old update of the targets turning into treasures, many had threaten to quit and leave the game, but they to had stuck around learn to play adapt to the new setting plarium had given us 

Please just lets keep it about the topic, i do not want to have to close this because of drama....


Lady Blas
Jun 25, 2016, 12:4806/25/16
01/22/16
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Blas - as a result of these comments - is this thread only seen by the players and the moderators?  Or rather my question is:  Has Plarium been advised of the discontent amongst its players due to this change in the prizes?  If so, thats what we want - even if they don't revert back.  But, if NOT - then, they should be.


As a former IT nerd - I KNOW changes can be put back in place.  We just want our voices heard with Plarium.


In addition - changes to systems are usually fought - especially by the users.  But this prize change has really impacted this game in a negative way - not 100% mind you, but it has been out there for 3 days now and I still do not see the payouts nor the BIG payouts that would have been banked and paid out to me.  I have to continue doing the prizes due to the events going on at this time.  So, I have no choice in the matter.


Still unhappy..
Jun 25, 2016, 12:5106/25/16
Aug 27, 2019, 12:04(edited)
12/13/14
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Ok, you are right.

Back on topic, last big payout was around 11 million mixed O and D a few weeks ago, had 2 million plus left in haven at time of payout ( all resource units, no Breth or other)

plus built close to a million more.

All dead, no big payout, just the small junk ones.

Am not convinced the new system is working, l fully understand how the prize system worked, in fact was trained by one of the most knowlegable players to ever play the game ( Deathbringer )

Sorry, but the new system is terrible.
Jun 25, 2016, 13:1206/25/16
Jun 25, 2016, 13:17(edited)
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Beafraid said:


Blas - as a result of these comments - is this thread only seen by the players and the moderators?  Or rather my question is:  Has Plarium been advised of the discontent amongst its players due to this change in the prizes?  If so, thats what we want - even if they don't revert back.  But, if NOT - then, they should be.


As a former IT nerd - I KNOW changes can be put back in place.  We just want our voices heard with Plarium.


In addition - changes to systems are usually fought - especially by the users.  But this prize change has really impacted this game in a negative way - not 100% mind you, but it has been out there for 3 days now and I still do not see the payouts nor the BIG payouts that would have been banked and paid out to me.  I have to continue doing the prizes due to the events going on at this time.  So, I have no choice in the matter.


Still unhappy..

Plarium sees everything we say on here, your opinions do matter, The community managers make sure of this

Believe me, they are aware of your thoughts on this mater 


Now for the payouts, the new update will not pay the same with already weakened prizes, now the banking is still there, waiting for the right attack if you are about to get paid, sometimes the prizes works in mysterious ways, and you have to over attack them to get your pay...

but make no mistake the banking is still there, they left that alone, ( so when i say they will not pay the same, i mean that the prize has been hit already and the recent update does not recognize it so you wont get a small reward ) 


BUT the prizes you haven't hit yet the system will recognize and you should get some kinda reward if you beat it....




AGAIN the banking hasn't been changed, it's still part of the prizes, 

now for the new update to pay small rewards every time, the new topic is

have the prizes been adjusted? more troops now to kill them???

I won't know this answer to give you untill Monday when our CM's come back

I will get this info and share it here... but my opinion is if we get a pay now even if we owe the banking, i assume they upped our prizes, means we owe more to the banking now, which is why many are having issues getting the prize ... ( this is just my thought not answered by a CM yet ) 



Jun 25, 2016, 13:2706/25/16
Jul 18, 2019, 12:05(edited)
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i apologise to you Blasphemy... i am trying hard to keep to the topic but Fazi has made that very difficult.

now.... none of us liked the change with the targets and we did NOT stick around and adapt... we just do not play those anymore, as you can see yourself the treasure islands are always 90% plus unocupied as everyone knows  it's just a daft way to loose your troops.... it's a noobs game those treasure islands... so we all put up and shut up about it and left that part out of our gaming..ok, a few look for clueless players who do put troops on those 'treasure islands' to just smash them as soon as they land almost, but us long term players have dropped that side of the game like a red hot stone.

Now however that this HUGE change has occurred with the prizes ... we all feel it's plain overkill or why would we all be so passionate about what we are saying on this thread...

many people are telling me there unhappiness with this new prize system and lots feel like it is the last straw for them, myself included obviously.... those that feel this way are all good dedicated gamers who have spent lots of time and effort not to mention real life hard earned cash playing this game...  we all feel that we are not being listened to or considered.

i am once again in agreement with Beafraid... i also spend big ammounts of money on this game and i also will no longer spend any more real money on rubies... so many players will leave over this because you can't keep making detromental negative game changes all the time without it eventually changing the game so much that it pushes us long time loyal players away, this prizes change is that eventual push for many.... and once again we feel Plarium cares not about that even though those players have been long time loyal and dedicated pirates.....

i for one will no longer play prizes and after the disscusions here as i know i will never now get above the level130 that i was on unless i smash all the SOLs i last won on it only to recieve a pitance in payout that will never again be as great as the SOLs i now have..... if i hear differently from other players in a month or so.... if they stat recieving big payouts for there efforts then i will maybe change my mind, however nobody on the whole server has yet told me or put on here that they have won BIG.... so far its all to the contrary and all players have been 'winning' small only...

we just want you to put our plee's forward to your boisses Lady Blas and not just be made to feel like our opinions don't matter.

regards lady Blas

Bart