Your not fooling anyone that has been playing the game for awhile, Losing larger units for smaller units is not a reward.

Of course it kind of tickles when y'all blow smoke up our Butts, lol

Blasphemy said:

NOTHING REALLY HAS CHANGED GUYS

Your banking is still there,

just it won't calculate your old bank with the new hits on prizes but it's still there as before

any new prizes you have attack after the recent update will show the newest %

it just couldn't had the old, please don't get discourage over this update, give it a chance,

I understand your emotions, however, let's take a closer look at the situation:

FROM THE CM recently 

1) If you have ever touched a Prize (even with one Unit), it won't be affected by the change.

2) You will still get big payouts which you were used to get before.

3) In addition to big payouts you will receive small mini-payouts after raiding each Prize.

4) Small payouts will help you to keep a certain number of Units in your army even if the big payout is far away.

If you have any questions, please ask.


 After my post last night, our BH decided to do our own research this morning. It seems that it now takes far more to take a prize. Where say it use to only take 5 bonnies to do a level 1 or 2 prize, now takes twice as many. and the further up you go is the exact same thing. So it's taking double the troops to take your prizes. You may win a little, but the large rewards that the moderators spoke about don't happen. It's now designed to lose your fleet/troops. I think plarium is hoping that you'll lose all your fleet, so that you are forced to buy them back. I've seen it first hand. No longer are the days of the huge wins. and as far as those little wins, those go to be applied to the next prize. So actually not are you only losing double troops/fleet on your prizes, then you turn around and throw these little wins you gained also. So there is no wins.

I've sent out a warning to my members in our BH, explaining this and warning them to be careful or they would end up with nothing after doing prizes. I've already seen quite a few leave the game after this slap in the face. Just when we could had our banking down pat, and being able to receive large prizes you take them away from us. These players that are leaving are long time members. Seems most are just so fed up with all the other things that have been taken away from us. So maybe you'll just have a bunch of smaller members left. But I'm here to tell you that you won't win large prizes anymore. Saw it first hand. Thank you Plarium for totally ruining a great game from a year ago, and to take and take and take until you've pushed players into quitting the game..Way to go....There will be many others, count on it.

And those of us who have been playing this game for years, have not asked for this to be reformed into winning a little each time. I'd much rather have my big rewards as all my upper level members do also. Seems your catering to the lower level members now. That's fine. Enjoy your game now. Since you ruined it.

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LINDA please consider this a verbal warning, If now i find out any duplicate posts from your side in every corner of the forum, it is not going to be good.

STICK TO ONE THREAD

if you are going to reply in multiple make sure you have something else to come up with.

& to the rest. Enough have been said until now.

Final answer from Plarium side is "They are not going to change this prizes system"

Reason is -- There is no negative points in this prizes.

This has been successfully implemented across different platforms/games & it is working fine.

I would suggest to be attentive in the prizes & build some strategy to get bigger payouts.

Major reason behind all this complain is " old strategy is not working & you simply don't want to do a bit of work to build a new one"

LOL, So nice of you Fazi to admonish Linda for being frustrated with a change to the game designed to line plarium's pockets.

All of you Moderators should being doing just that, MODERATING NOT CHEERLEADING Plariums profit margins. I thought you all were once players. 

Players are frustrated and have a right to be. Once I reach my breaking point I too will simply stop playing and find something else to waste my money on.

Lock out the posts so the newbies can't see, haha

FaZi said:

"To reduce that severe impact of prizes this system was introduced. You are getting something back every time which is enough to take on another low level prize (with a possibility of a bigger payout or otherwise atleast some units)"

"4-- All we have to do is to find some strategy that will work on this new prize."

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Lets look at the first point here, you are getting something back which is enough to take on another low level prize. I lost 98k on a lvl 34 prize to get 10 SOL's. 39 now being my lowest Prize how is this enough to take on anything? Next, I find it rather hilarious that a Moderator has no clue to go about this new way, your words in 4-- above. Now, enough about that. We know it's b.s. and will not be changed anyways. Still, this is a Forum, a place for players to voice there opinions on things. Why any Moderator feels the need to threaten people for doing so is beyond me. First Moderators insult people in this thread now they threaten them, glad to say I've decided not to become one, not if this is the result. I know Plarium is a business and in it to make money but in a business you NEED customers. If the main voice of your business deals with customers poorly they will eventually find somewhere else to go. I know my Haven name is Ashhole but you guys are something.

FaZi said:

& to the rest. Enough have been said until now.

Major reason behind all this complain is " old strategy is not working & you simply don't want to do a bit of work to build a new one"

In any case it is not nice to change the algorithm without previous notice and warning. 

 

you are wrong, the new system is not full of good points and no bad points atall... it is totally pants me hearties.

why would experienced high level players ....leaders of brotherhoods, right down to smaller players all be so downhearted by this horrible change... do we all speak complete gobbledegook ? are we not the players? are our wishes just not important enough for the game makers undemocratic considerations?

where are all the players that want this change?.... we do not hear them speaking up for it hear on this forum....Nobody is on here saying how great it is...... the only voices that are commenting here are those that are hating this change...

we pirates do not care if its on other plarium games, we don't wamt it, we are asking please to revert to the previous setting...  or is plariums aim then to have all its games be total clones of each other, with just different pictures and diifferent names for the strongholds and havens ect? we all feel like your just putting your fingers in your ears and humming a tune over us as we are trying to speak to you about not wanting this change.

Then Fazi chastising Linda, and saying 'ENOUGH' at us all for voicing our opinions on this negative change... Fazi.. this is a forum for the players to discuss matters they feel important, unless somebody is swearing or abusive then who are you to talk to us players in such an aloof fashion? you should be here to support the regulations of the forum and not to be telling players that they can not discuss this matter on the PLAYERS FORUM... where else are players going to discuss such matter.s....how rude.

Bartholomew Roberts.

Yes forum regulations says no duplication of posts & linda posted that message in 3 different threads.

Enough have been said which means there are examples given from other player who got the pay out & doing fine in the prizes.

If someone won't want to understand or maybe have a dumb mind than we can't say anything about that.

You can discuss all that you want but do not repeat it over & over again. Put some sense into your next reply.

Respect the forum rules, respect the company who is giving you this free game to play (spending money is your choice, You were never asked to do so) & on top of that respect the fellow players. 

I hardly put things from a mod point of view & mentioned that in multiple threads regarding this issue. We are players, we are volunteers & atleast i won't get dictated by bunch of idiots, who are talking nonsense everywhere and guiding me about things that i have to follow.

I will repeat what has been told to us,

This prize system is not going to change. It is successfully implemented in multiple games across different platforms and everyone is doing fine.

Now you can whine about it, i won't be wasting my further time while trying to put sense in dumb minds.

& it is up to you to take my words as a mod or as a player or whatever. I don't care.

Fazi, you are the rudest moderator i have ever known here... calling us dumb and a bunch of idiots !! we players make the game not a rude bloke who thinks to get some kinda power by talking a forum position were you can talk down to players in the name of Plarium... your the one who needs to put sence into your next reply as your the one who is supposed to be representing plarium

Fazi says 'Respect the forum rules, respect the company who is giving you this free game to play (spending money is your choice, You were never asked to do so) & on top of that respect the fellow players.' ... what an idiot thing to say.

Plarium should respect the wishes of the gamers..... expessing opinions Fazi is not 'whining'.... grow up you foolish person.

ASH said:

So are you calling me dumb then Fazi, because I don't like the change or an idiot???  Come out and say it.  You think you deserve respect just because you volunteered for something, well you'll never have mine!!!

ASH, you're not dumb and certainly not an idiot, 

You're just a concerned hard core player here....

I think Fazi just got a lil carried away..

We are just trying to keep a particular view here.

one of plariums and one of the players, 

We have what is given to us by our CM's 

We try and keep the balance of plarium and our gaming experiences

From my previous post, you may find this to be quite shocking i my self isn't to happy with the change either...

But plariums already changed this, they have done the update in other games and it's been going on for months,

Pirates is last to ever get these updates, as they are tested first in older plarium games.

We either adapt to the new ways or we quit, 

I rather see you adopt and try the new way then give up and walk away...

Safe sails Capt. 

omg - THIS thread is so getting out of hand.  But, let's be realistic here folks. 

I work the prizes and I work them well and have been ever since I started playing this game.  Sometimes you loose, rebuild, and then there are those HUGE payouts.  Which to me, was the fun part of the Prizes.  I have maxed mine out to level #140.  Do I do those daily - not always.  And I don't always do daily prizes either.  But, I have learned how to play them and I feel that I've done a fairly decent job of it too.  UNTIL NOW.

I see from these moderator posts that the 'bank' is still there.  It may be, but, its NOT the BIG payouts from just a few days ago.  And we KNEW something was going on with the prizes before this change because the prizes were just not paying out anything.  You can look me up on Pirates - I DO PRIZES AND you'll see my name out there quite frequently too.  If I see someone doing better than me and deserves to win - YES, I will let them win.  I could push it and do a few more - but I stop.

Now - with this NEW change - I am not thrilled with the changes made to the payouts nor am I happy about it.  Will it change the way I play the game - DEFINITELY.  Will I leave the game - not for a while, but this change has made me really reconsider PLARIUM and its logic behind its programmers AND its testers - WHICH are there any??   Before you do a release???  And do the moderators truly PLAY the game - that is not the issue here - nor should it be.  However, Moderators should understand the game and its full potential.

I have put too much into this game to get to where I am.  I've used prizes to get me to the level I am at.  Is there more to learn about this game - YES.  But to see this many people trying to make a point and all the moderators do is copy and paste the same answers or tell us to give it time - folks ... you need to listen to us as well.

I completed most of my prizes today.  And the end result - yes I got a few subs and juggernauts, but not nearly the number that I would have with the old system.  Mostly, I got lesser valued boats and floats.  Lower level players or players with lower prize levels may benefit from this new system.  But, for the big players and those who have been around a while - no, you have not treated us fairly.  I was content with the old method of prizes.  Hit a few bumps along the way, but then you hit BIG.  Which made the prizes so enjoyable yet addictive.

And, I have also seen that this 'system' is out there in the other games as well.  I play two other plarium games - and I don't see it?  I've yet to have a big payout in the other games outside of pirates.

After this experience Event - I won't be doing prizes as much.  It will be a waste of my time to do so.  Disappointed - oh yeah.

Beafraid

after doing a prize level 25 i have found that it now takes more than the given 36.000 points to clear...i will need another 1/4 of that again with this new system, so you plarium guys need to do updated prize tables...

i agree with Beafraid says .... she is the biggest player of prizes on the whole server and we all know to respect what she says... as Moderators will you not even approach plarium for us players wishes? or are you  just there to be thier stick to browbeat us into accepting changes we don't want.

i am so dispondant about the way this has gone and am really thinking of quitting especially after the way this has been thrust upon us without any warning.... like normal...

I am not going to comment any further but hope that other players 'Whine' (as Fazi says) on here about this crass decision to change the prizes until plarium might start to listen.

best regards

Bart

Well, well, well, Seems this is just another Plarium "Show me da Money" gimmick just like the new Bastions.

 At least once a month you guys just have to tweak the system all fo da luv of the Rubies.

I have yet to see you do anything for the old players because YOU KNOW they will spend the money anyway. This is so very evident by the way you offer your packages of specialness every few days now. Different players get offered the same special deal for either a higher or lower cost based on their recent and history of purchase activity.

I am really curious if the game gets that many more "REAL" players a day that you can continue to genuinely anger the long timers over this latest manipulation of their finances.

Sure if you shut us up and force us out then only the newbies are left and they do not know any thing is different. 

Well. I did my today's Prizes.

There is no emotion, neither any fun, anymore. You have turned them in a mechanical thing. Click click click.

What a big loss.

I hope I keep back my about 3M force I have inside and stop playing them.

I had plans. Befor you changed them without previous notice or warning I had plans. I had played big amounts of SOLs knowing that I would have them again. How I will launch 10 raids at once with a bunch of cannonners, luggers , marines, etc...

If I had been informed a month previously I would not play any SOL.

You killed the game.

You killed my  illusion in this game.

I have tried to kept silent but some of you are forcing me to come again and tell the truth again. So let me be more expressive here.

1-- What i said earlier is 100% of true and that truth is the reason of boiling of many here

2-- @ ASH, i am not looking for respect from a person who never understands what is actually being said, and what they are understanding.

3-- @Blackbart, thank you for your compliments, i appreciate that. it is sense not "SENCE". I am representing plarium and i have been given this mod right by Plarium and other rights which includes banning, warning as well. & you are no one to tell me how i should express myself.

4-- @ Be Afraid, I appreciate your opinion and i can understand your frustration as well. I appreciate the fact that you represented your opinion using better words & a better presentation. Can you pllease guide your fellow players (if there is any from your BH or friends) to use the words wisely & leave some space to abosrb opinion of others as well.

5-- @BlackBart, if you guyz present your opinion in a good manner no one is going to tell you whine and all that. Just look at be afraid reply & than see yours in all other threads.

6-- @Bassdiablo, Change is always good and sometimes it is necessary to keep your game alive (the Truth), Just work a bit to build one or you can ask for guidance from others.

7-- @Frank, No one is forcing you to shut up or anything at all. Please be a little positive. As we told many times this has been implemented in all the games in all 3 platforms . If i say we didn't had complaints than it is not true, we had but player worked a bit & now they are doing fine.

8-- @Arya -- Right now i got every reason to ban you, Posting personal info of some other player without his consent, threatening a player. But i won't cause i do not roll this way until i am forced too. You can give my co-ords & my bastion co-ords to players in game or in text message & ask them to attack or whatever. But you can't post it publicaly cause it won't do you any good.  (I Deleted your post because it is against forum rules)

Additionally i may have few points in prizes and maybe a lot less experience than others but i managed to develop & learn strategies managed payouts in 5 figures and did well in the prizes. & i am not just playing this game of plarium. 

9-- @ Mule -- i sent a PM, hope it helps. & you will get your sols back.

& Now what i have to say over all is.

Why i acted rude and called you names because some particular player here are just repeating their replies over & over again. Express your opinion but also listen to others & appreciate their "try" to help you as well.

Now i am getting called rudest mod of all but there are many who tell me that i am the nice one as well so it does not make any difference.

Yes i got a little carried away and that was because of a similar reply over & over again. If i was rude than you also need to look about yourself.

Express opinion in a polite manner (avoid using words, money eaters, Sc*ms, & some other terms used all the way in this thread) and try to listen to others and reply with respect to that. Not just a copy paste from previous reply or the same thing with different words.

FaZi, you are abusing your authority as moderator. If anything is against the rules, then another moderator should have decided on that, not you, precisely because you are the subject matter of our complaints apart from the prize update. In any case, by your own admission, you confirmed that you acted rude (and continue to do so quite frankly). Thus, you are clearly not fit to stay as moderator. You're using the forum as your personal blog where you can act bossy and lord over us ordinary players. 

If you are too hot-tempered and have no patience to deal with "duplicate" or similar complaints, then quit as moderator. You say other players should speak more politely and "present their opinion in a good / polite manner", and yet you speak rudely to the players here by calling them dumb and implying they cannot understand simple concepts well enough.

Your authority should be revoked immediately by Plarium. You say you represent Plarium, and yet you disgrace them by the way you treat its players.

Yes i got a little carried away and that was because of a similar reply over & over again. If i was rude than you also need to look about yourself.

All i have to say is the above sentence & you need to look into yourself as well Arya. If i confirmed acting rude than i also confirmed that why is that, and it is not just about handling duplicate things it is about rules, sense, Etiquettes and lot more.

Additionally right now you are dictating me, and plarium right now, stop doing that. This forum is not my property not yours. It is a forum to discuss things with compliance to the pre defined rules.

thank you for your suggestion to plarium about removing me as a mod & i will make sure that it is forwarded to Community managers.

I am not acting bossy or anything i am doing my duty as usual, only difference is i do not accept normal support criteria set by different companies  that whatever other say you will calm them down, no i will not.They get paid and i don't and even if i would i will not tolerate dictation, going over board and telling others about how it should be done when you yourself have no idea. If someone is crossing thier limit and going over board, i can't stay calm.

Additionally this is not a complaint against moderator thread, if you have any issues send PM to community manager, do not post it here.

It is also against the forum rules to talk about other things instead of the topic of the thread.

You can read forum rules, and can find there what is against rules & what is not. Additionally there is always someone who is looking over other work and they will restore your post if it was not against the rules.