Mule said:

Then, for a level 66 what Power force when small reward we can expect?

And, do behave in the same way a common Prize and a Quest Prize?

i think 30M resources in bank should do the trick.

by quest prize do you mean adventure prize? which is shown in a separate tab and with a skull in top left corner? If yes than consider my previous reply for common prize.

and adventure prize have a limited payout which is always shown when you hover mouse over attack or send reinforcement button.

Sorry , for quest Prize I meant the one that is the higher level, that also is shown in the Quests, in the screen sited left and down of the source counters.

ok, i thought you are not using exact terms and talking about adventures.

there is no limit in the payout, payout is directly proportional to your bank value.

Lot of players here were not agreeing with me but they must have their own reasons to not believe it. But this is working for me, i will suggest to give it a try and see how it goes.

let me know with the results :)

Mule said:

SUGGESTIONS. (Please send it to the developers Alyona Kolomiitseva).

So I had two ideas thinking about this that I think that would make happy all the parts.

(1)    THE FIRST IDEA is to add a new label at the lighthouse. It could be called Bermuda's Prizes (or whatever). And clicking at this label you would go to the new Prizes. So, the Lighthouse will have (i) (Targets) (Prizes) (Bermuda's Prizes) (Adventures) and (Tresaure Islands)

You will have players playing the previous Prizes, players playing the news Prizes, and players playing both.

It doesn't need much work since you have already the previous algorithm.

Furthermore this allows you to change the new prizes further if desired without disappoint the (used to the previous prizes) players.

In adition, Bermuda is an attractive name and could have an attractive history.

(2) THE SECOND IDEA would be to add the new algorithm to the low range level of the Prizes. Say the prizes from level 0 to 30 would behave like the new ones and from level 31 and up would behave like the previous ones. This make it easy for the new players and old school players will enjoy the Prizes as always.

Regards.

Hi, Mule. Unfortunately, we will not bring back the old system, and we will not create two separate Prize tabs.

And no, we will not make different level Prizes work in a different way.

OK, TY both for your replies.

After playing further I have experimented that pay-outs at Quest Prizes are limited or lower than the immediately lower Prizes.

I Have to say that I have become used to the new Prizes and that I have enjoyed them as before.

However I want to insist on the idea. It is not fair to make an update like this without previous notice. Neither to do it during a tournament. I'm sorry but it is completely lack of consideration to your customers. I had bought a BIG "special offer" to play the Prizes like they were. I have lost time and rubies(money)  to figure out how to approach the new Prizes meanwhile maintaining my rank on the Experience tournament. I had bought these rubies two days before the update and they had other use on my plans. It is very unfair to pay for something and receive another thing.

If you had warn your customers previously, their reaction to the update, would have been much more positive.

Anyway, thank-you and regards.

Mule said:

OK, TY both for your replies.

After playing further I have experimented that pay-outs at Quest Prizes are limited or lower than the immediately lower Prizes.

I Have to say that I have become used to the new Prizes and that I have enjoyed them as before.

However I want to insist on the idea. It is not fair to make an update like this without previous notice. Neither to do it during a tournament. I'm sorry but it is completely lack of consideration to your customers. I had bought a BIG "special offer" to play the Prizes like they were. I have lost time and rubies(money)  to figure out how to approach the new Prizes meanwhile maintaining my rank on the Experience tournament. I had bought these rubies two days before the update and they had other use on my plans. It is very unfair to pay for something and receive another thing.

If you had warn your customers previously, their reaction to the update, would have been much more positive.

Anyway, thank-you and regards.

I'm glad that we could help you, Mule!

And I understand your frustration with no-notice situation. But let's try to understand why there was no warning.

Just imagine that we have warned our players in advance. There's no update yet. everything works as usual, but the community is scared. Because players wouldn't know what exactly to expect. They wouldn't be able to try the new system, and we wouldn't be able to answer any questions regarding it, because we never give any exact information before the update. Only some 'teasers'. 

So, with lack of information, without a possibility to try the new system, and in fear of what's coming next. 

I'm not sure that it would be the best way, are you?

when does it start ?? ı am not able to enter the game! 

serap-durmus said:

when does it start ?? ı am not able to enter the game! 

http://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/bug-reports/topics/loading-issues-7/

rich5151 said:

I have read a number of the posts, and I agree with those who are very, very dissatisfyied. And I certainly agree with BlackBart when he says that the reply to him was very condensending. To say that a level 87 player is not committed to YOUR game is a stupid comment. I have a pretty good idea what that player SPENT to reach that level! And it all comes down to this; the players here are not stupid, irrigardless of what Plarium thinks of us. We are here to have FUN! When the game ceases to be fun.... what is the point? You changed the rules in the middle of the BIGGEST tourney of the year! Why? That is obvious, seeing how everything played out. I came in 4th in the tourney; I carefully watched those in the top ten, AND, I would have liked to move up! NOT A CHANCE without spending BIG for rubys to keep playing. OOPS! I do believe we just figured out WHY the rules were changed in the middle of the tourney!! As far as I could tell, over the last 5 days of the tourney, NONE of the top ten positions in the tourney changed. EVERYONE STOPPED BECAUSE THE NEW RULES RIPPED EVERYONE OFF!! Including me, to the tune of more than 10,000 units and some 11 million in offence power. So I won 80,000 rubys... big deal. It would have taken at least 300,000 rubys to make myself whole again, to where I was BEFORE I played the tourney. But this is not a surpirse, cause this was the point of the changes wasn't it. Litte by little the greed of plarium is taking the fun things out of the game. I expect to see more dropping out. I already see a change in the BH I am in (where I am an advisor). Fewer players checking in for fewer hours. Not a surprise. I, also, am thinking about quitting and I am a level 83 player, with a pretty good investment in this game. But once again, what is the point when the fun is gone?

They have done these changes in other games before bringing to PTOF that's where it was compared thought through 

and looked over,Please don't mistake me thinking i agree with the change, because like you and so many others, i do not like it,

my fun ended when they took away our targets, i remember waiting on them to drop, id make sure i had my chores around the house done,

just so i could hurry and get there, claim my target.. and had my pearls set so i could have 3... that was my rush i enjoyed...

Now i look on the targets as empty ghost treasure sunken to the darkest part of the sea...

Everyone's here has that special thing among the game that they play for that gives that "rush" to come back for more...

I believe plariums thoughts on this was to try to give us a bigger rush, one we had to find a new way in receiving it 

I don't think they tended to ruin our game play, but thought us over knowing we are dedicated players, to try new 

ways to achieve these goals, and as i said already it's bean already implanted in other games, they to had learned to play the new ways....

Im sure they didn't agree at first either....

I do owe an apology saying that the dedicated players that are quitting aren't that dedicated, that was very wrong of me and unprofessional of my part, I caught on what i said after i said it and re'read what i had said, sometimes when writing something, it's comes out differently then what you want it to be as if you voiced your opinion, 

Hopefully some good comes out of this and what players we have left in PTOF decides to stay and work the changes and adjust

maybe some good will come of it all.. eventually maybe 

The sad fact is that the game developers cannot and will not admit it when they make mistakes, the Treasure Islands were a huge disaster but are still there.

Now this, l have spent the past week or so doing nothing but hitting prizes and collecting data. Sad to say l no longer have any clue how it works or how to plan hits ( not including junk wins hit a level 92 with losses over 30 % of previous big payout and won yet another small payout )

Boo-hoo. Lost all the money you spent? Feeling ripped off? That's what you get for buying sucess lol.

the men/women who tought of this idee should run for president of the USA (they like to vote for idiots)

mmmm lost  3500 subs, without a big reward.. then i read about this new way of rewarding prices... well not happy... 10 times before a big reward. wondering how that is going to work out attacking lvls above 100.. y0u need 10x between 3 and 5 mill... so between 20 and 40 mill to get a big reward..

also i found out winning small prices increases the payout of resourses (nobody wants or needs), so every time you want to do personal event (capture prise), you need to increase youre resourse lvl to 90 %.. what is almost impossible to do, to avoid getting a payout in resourses..

so if you want to improve the prises stop the payout of resourses (you can buy them a lot cheaper then building time)  and pearls 

I like some of the comments made since my last post.  I've not been active in this forum for several days now because I have just lost interest in this thread since it hasn't helped regardless of pleas and comments by the players.  You may be listening - but, ARE YOU REALLY?

I am disappointed in Plarium doing this change to the prizes.  I have always been a huge contender with them as well.  I have been doing some prizes - basically daily lately and still have not received the rewards nor the payback that once was a 'given' prior to the change.

What I will be doing is not use my credit card for Plarium to obtain rubies and/or add to my fleet based upon this recent change to the prizes. 

As a result of this forum - it is evident that some good came out of this particular thread - one in particular moderator has changed his attitude or no longer is one.  I just hope THAT continues. I will hear through the grapevine.

@Coe,

With what i have experienced, you need to stop small payouts in order to get bigger payouts and also you will need a successful streak of killing prizes.

So what you need to do is to get them to yellow bar (Do not kill it) this will increase your bank value, i really can't comment on how much bank you would need but on a rough calculation it would need around let say 70M+.

and once you have gathered a handsome bank value, you need lot of troops because you need to clear last few prizes in one go, and if no payout than continue your successful streak on the prizes you have yellowed already.

& hope for best.