Looks like it's here that i have to give my toughts about the new system.......

It's very bad :

- New players will learn that prizes will change their powerfull armada or fleet units into some junk pirate mercs during 50+ prizes before having a real prize which wont refund what they lost. 

==> U Speak about news players u know that they need 3 month before starting to build fleet and 4 before armada ! so they have pirates and mercs mainly and this system willdestroy the few fleet or armada they got with tourneys ... enjoy

In which world would u expect players to be happy to jump from system A to system B :

System A : 

Losts : 100 prizes : 100 armada / 250 fleet / 500 merces /1500 pirates death

Prize : 110 armada and 350 fleet (3 time a prize)

==> Lower rhum consumption, O is still at his highest, O with more movespeed 

System B :

Losts : 100 prizes : 100 armada / 250 fleet / 500 merces /1500 pirates death

Prize : 50 armada and 80 fleet 400 mercs 700 pirates

==> Enjoy i got units at each prize, (the units i want to sacrifice) small O for high rhum consumption

To conclude i'll see the prze and the light house as an event to do only when tehre is a tourney.

If we are a lot to dislike this new system there are reasons, of course u'll always find players who are ok with that, it's the same players who are losing a lot of units in game doing a lot of mistakes or the new ones. I think there is 0 satisfaction to win 10 mercs or 40 pirates when u think about what u lost for. 

Product manager & co. did a system for  people who dont think or only look at what they win and not "what they lost". They did a system for pple who are dancing and are happy to win 5$ after spending 10. Well maybe they have right maybe most of players are like that but my advice is this system reduce the interest of a part of the game : prizes.

PS : sorry if my english isnt perfect im from Eu (fr).

that some detailed explanation there, thank you for that Ellionis

I understood what you meant there.

I am bit concerned as well after all of this poor prizes and as i stated earlier, we will forward it to our CM's and they will see it by themselves as well but i know the asnwers that we might get

1-- You will get better units also in prizes, it is just kind of a little delayed or matter of luck.

2-- You are getting units hence your armies are not zero and you can do more prizes.

3-- Your bank is there and it will be paid back to you, you just need to build some strategies as you guyz did so for old prizes.

It is a little bitter to swallow for us and maybe a little bitter for Plarium too but the truth is

they have to change things every once in a while to keep things interesting and keep players busy.

For a developed player who have done researches build everything and was busy in PVP or prizes

they introduced treasure island which means more activity in PVP so a thing for some to get busy with

after that they came up with upgrade etchings more levels in building and some people bought them used them so a little more activity in plarium

now they came up with bastions another thing for PVP for players to keep them busy

and now the changes in prizes

what i am trying to say is if we go back like 4 months back the game was quite monotonuous

like you have build everything so now you have to do is build troops, lose with no further advancements or anything.

and in this stage we are like noobs again specially in terms of prizes and this might bring some players back (i doubt though) and for new players who don't understand game at earlier stages like they don't know what armada is what unit we need to keep and what not, than the unit they won in prizes each & every unit will matter for them and they will be happy to stick around

Hi ^^

I'm 100% agree : Plarium has to change and add things to keep the game interesting. And they are doing it, it's good for players ! 

if i say "forge of empire" for exemple, they add so few thing in the game.... Pirates and Plarium are way better !

I wont complain about bastion which is a really great thing and a well done new part of the game (activ part)

But u speak about treasure island : the idea is nice but how they did it ... u are able to see the results on my screenshots, and it's understandable it's so easy to hunt pvp on treasure island (even during tourney it's nearly the same)  ===> 
To fit with the subject doing new things is great but here for prizes, i think they'll reduce the amount of things to do in the game adding a new part of the game which no one or nearly use (except beginners who will learn with pain to not use this part) isnt really usefull. 

One day if i have time i should give ideas on an other topic to improve treasure island and to make it a more interesting part of the game than a messsage with "no treasure islands ..... "

B

I want to make clear one point. I' m writing in this thread as a CUSTOMER. Not like a pirate or someone that want to point to his opinion or just for fun. I'm posting here as a CUSTOMER. As a very disappointed and upset customer and I have to add that reading this thread I feel also frustration. I Don't feel I'm being considered.

Two days before the Prizes changed I lost all my troops in the Prizes. I wanted to play and maintain my rank in the Experience Tournament. So, I decided to buy rubies, buy some troops and hit again the prizes with the hope of have my troops back. And it was like this. I had part of my troops back and I was able to follow participating in the Experience Tournament. I bought a BIG "special Offer"

Two days after Plarium, changed the Prizes WITHOUT ANY PREVIOUS NOTICE or warning. This is unacceptable. I m playing MONEY. And I deserve some CONSIDERATION.

I Paid for a product and I received a different product. How anyone can defend this?

WHY Plarium didn't explain this one month before and allow their customers to plan accordingly?

Why Plarium did this change in the middle of a Experience Tournment?

I really don't understand why someone  don't want to consider his customers and don't mind to have them unhappy.

I really have lost the illusion for this game. The Prizes were one of the main important source of fun.

I WOULD LIKE if any of you moderators could, please, provide me the mail of Plarium's Customer Support to send a formal complaint. And I would like a real answer from Plarium

you can send a PM to our EX-Admin Annie Bonnie here on forum or can send a support ticket.

Apart from that be sure that your comments are being read by Plarium Employees which are community managers & they will pass your corncerns further.

Right now it is weekend, Plarium is off so we can expect some activity on Monday and than they will have meetings (a normal corporate procedure) i hope they will be able to give us a final reply in next 2 to 3 days.

Ellionis said:

One day if i have time i should give ideas on an other topic to improve treasure island and to make it a more interesting part of the game than a messsage with "no treasure islands ..... "

B

that is really weird, I never came across such situation, i always have 30-40 Islands around me but they just don't fancy me at all.

I am suspecting that your page is not completely loaded, this happens to me when i go to this tab, it takes 15+ sec to show the treasure islands, otherwise just show the same message as it appears here. May be you can try that and see if you have some around you and just this page not loading properly.

OK Thank-you.

Also I would like Plarium consider this:

You can not blow up them like this.

Ah i have a lot of treasure island around me, here was the list of the "occupied" one, and it's nearly always like that cause harvest is way too risky, so players dont use treasure island.

Mule said:

OK Thank-you.

Also I would like Plarium consider this:

There is no Prize's manual of instructions. So you in your own must to find the way to figure out how they work and how to approach them. It costs TIME and MONEY. It implies you researching over the net (most not official information), filter that information, make tests, write down each time you make a prize etc... This is part of the fun. And this is work.

You can not blow up them like this.

if you have some friend in storm fall than contact them, they can guide you.

I send you one PM as well and that straetgy is working in Storm fall and giving payout, good units & bigger payout.

I just killed a lv 52 after i weakened it 1 time and i didn't get anything :(

i killed a lv 32 and got 4 SOL

i killed a lv 16 and got 15 jaugs

no need to say i m 100% lost and confsued here..and i don't know what i m doing

ligolaspoland said:

I just killed a lv 52 after i weakened it 1 time and i didn't get anything :(

i killed a lv 32 and got 4 SOL

i killed a lv 16 and got 15 jaugs

no need to say i m 100% lost and confsued here..and i don't know what i m doing

if you clear prize in more than one hit it is going to disturb partial payout as well. Regarding overall payout, i really can't comment on that.

I got 593 subs today from a defensive level 45, though my 13.7M is still in bank but still i am okay with 593 subs because atleast that subs going to help in taking next prize.

Fazi does that mean that the reward keep draining from the bank even if we didn't pay the debt yet..i still have 5 mil debt and i got 130 frigate from 2 prizes.

the main problem is how to keep track of bank anymore..do i have to recalculate each reward + loses ?

ligolaspoland said:

Fazi does that mean that the reward keep draining from the bank even if we didn't pay the debt yet..i still have 5 mil debt and i got 130 frigate from 2 prizes.

the main problem is how to keep track of bank anymore..do i have to recalculate each reward + loses ?

thank you

now you have to take that frrom what you owe the banking, that's part of the promised reward you get now hitting them 

ASH said:

Yes Blasphemy that is a big reason along with the decrease in the "Big" payout.  Are the small rewards factored into the bank or subtracted from the "Big" payout still seems to be a question.  I appreciate your help and your being upstanding about things, as for the rest of the system well they showed where we as players stand.  We voice our concerns about a major change and are insulted for it, we voice concern for that and are banned or sent nasty messages and still our voice falls on deaf ears.  There's enough drama in the game with people on power trips so I'll stick to that from now on.

Im sorry you feel this way, your thoughts of the game is always welcomed, the developers do read them,

They just don't comment on here, as they have enough of the game to worry about then comments on post of the players not agreeing daily with what has happen what hasn't been happening...

Im sure you understand that, 

Wow . . . more changes, haven't had time yet to play the new system, on prizes, but after the global 2 weeks of hardcore prize play plarium seen what was what in the payouts on this game. I will have to see how things are now played with the new changes, but if its as bad as everyone is saying, then i suppose it will b another area of the game that i will be avoiding. and only play when necessary,

I would really like to read from , you know, all those players that wanted a change in the prizes? where are they? who are they? or is it a decision to change and let the long-time gamers of pirates find other sources of play elsewhere. When the game is no longer fun, my money will be spent somewhere else. I thought it was a game about being a pirate? Not much of a pirate game anymore with all the add-ons and changes that keep mutating the game into something other than what it was originally, I have seen other games mutate into the ridiculous and they soon die. 

But . . . I suppose plarium will learn that soon enough. Too many changes, and players move on. 

YARR.. It Be The JOURNEY NOT THE DESTINATION

as of now either way makes no difference to me.. but just for fun I wanted to be sure

first let me say off topic

>>Be kind and respectful to one another and the sun will shine more often
>>respect everyone's opinion, defend and encourage their right to respectfully express it.

>>Right or Wrong does not matter - all for fun first of all
>>we all want to feel comfortable and in the company of good people.

I am here to say at level 65 fame and glory.. 
I am running all prizes with big payouts avg 4 per 60 as done from low to high

used to be 6 big payouts in 60

now test over..
 i start at level 21 and work up . I am working on a  fine line on purpose. I have been trying to come up short.. I should have come up short by now.. I thought I was coming up short 10 times now..

last 10 times in a row , to make the big payout, I committed that last of my designated regulars in a close to break even won't be able to do another run if it don't pay big, I actually am controlling this easier than before, this close of falling short.

.. I can pull out more troops but I wanted to see if I could do this.. silly thing is working so far.. 

on one hand i want to build a cushion to work with.. but in a way it don't matter.
..have given up on worrying about it. I do not spend money to revive - i am building up the hard way.. 

either i make it or i build troops for a while.. i blockade for rubies and raid for fame to stay busy while building..
I help my Brotherhood.. I learn some, I teach some.. i crunch numbers 
i never played any other Plarium game or server. 13 months and over 400 days prestige run now

remember you get less in big payout if it is from a lower level.

by my calculations you need at least 24 million to play level 100 and might have to sweat it out like i am describing 
up to 32 million to blow through without a care

36 million to sweat through Level 115..  48 million to walk in park
too be clear - you need so much to run the gauntlet all 60 a day

I know you can probably do these level with less.. but this is my logic right or wrong..
I am OK with being wrong. I want to know and test and figure it out correctly if I am wrong.

but until i have practical experience above level 65.. and collect data at several level intervals to extrapolate pertinent data
I fully expect for some of my calculations to be farther off the higher i go.

I almost forget what it was like to  work up to something..

Then I remember it is the Journey not the Destination

and what is this talk of levels over 115, is that from other servers?

Peace Out

There is nothing you can't recover from

don't forget your best friend

CAPTAIN PATIENCE

Guys, let me clarify some points for you:

1. Prize banking system still works as it did before the Update.

2. Small payouts won't replace big payouts, they come as an addition.

3. Small payouts are still payouts, so they are somehow connected to your Bank.

4. The size of a possible payout wasn't changed.

5. The strength of Prizes was not changed.

6. We will not change the system back.

7. I have passed your feedback to our developers.

8. If you have any questions or need some clarifications, please ask.

9. If you didn't receive a single Unit from a Prize, there are two reasons:

a) You didn't have any losses on it.

b) You raided this Prize before the Update.

Please ask your questions, but remember that there is some information which I will be unable to share.