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Jul 7, 2022, 02:5607/07/22
10/11/20
366
ClosedPoly

Does it matter which champ is used with a stun set for Paragon?  My better champs are already geared.  Is there a specific type of champ that does the best job.  

Ignore unkillable is best, like Rotos or Genbo. Genbo is easier to get. 

Jul 7, 2022, 10:3807/07/22
05/03/20
1823
Tyr Anasazi

Ignore unkillable is best, like Rotos or Genbo. Genbo is easier to get. 

I have a Genbo that I am not using.  I can put him in stun and 2 pieces of broken gear.  

Jul 7, 2022, 13:2707/07/22
10/11/20
366
ClosedPoly

I have a Genbo that I am not using.  I can put him in stun and 2 pieces of broken gear.  

Why would you need Stun when he kills Paragon through the unkillable? If he's not built yet, I suggest you build him, you're going to need him, especially in the arena. Not just against Paragon, but Skullcrown and Leorius too, not to mention Swift parry gear. 

Jul 7, 2022, 14:0007/07/22
01/04/20
1698
ClosedPoly

I have a Genbo that I am not using.  I can put him in stun and 2 pieces of broken gear.  

Agree with Tyr, Pair Genbo with an increase attack champ that is slightly faster and you'll have no issues in the future..... Unless you get stomped in Arena of course... so maybe small issues in the future. 

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 7, 2022, 16:1507/07/22
Jul 7, 2022, 16:27(edited)
02/24/19
7822
Harbby

Agree with Tyr, Pair Genbo with an increase attack champ that is slightly faster and you'll have no issues in the future..... Unless you get stomped in Arena of course... so maybe small issues in the future. 

Not everyone has a Genbo, nor any specific champ. Stun sets work for everyone though, no acccuracy required.  Just click auto until you trigger the 18% stun chance. Then Paragon is dead! That's in general for all people though :)

@ClosedPoly, if you don't wanna put anyone currently built in a stun set, just pair Genbo with any Increase Attack champ. Arbiter, Duchess, or even a Spirithost. Then he'll swipe through those Unkillable buffs. 

Also, I'm not sure what Harbby means about getting stomped, maybe he is referring to his own losing in Arena even after he built Genbo.

Jul 7, 2022, 16:3907/07/22
Jul 7, 2022, 16:58(edited)
01/04/20
1698
harleQuinn

Not everyone has a Genbo, nor any specific champ. Stun sets work for everyone though, no acccuracy required.  Just click auto until you trigger the 18% stun chance. Then Paragon is dead! That's in general for all people though :)

@ClosedPoly, if you don't wanna put anyone currently built in a stun set, just pair Genbo with any Increase Attack champ. Arbiter, Duchess, or even a Spirithost. Then he'll swipe through those Unkillable buffs. 

Also, I'm not sure what Harbby means about getting stomped, maybe he is referring to his own losing in Arena even after he built Genbo.

I only agreed with the Genbo advice since he has a Genbo. 

And my teams never lose, prove it! 

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 7, 2022, 17:2707/07/22
02/24/19
7822
Harbby

I only agreed with the Genbo advice since he has a Genbo. 

And my teams never lose, prove it! 

I'm sure they don't.

Jul 7, 2022, 17:4907/07/22
Jul 7, 2022, 18:09(edited)
01/04/20
1698
harleQuinn

I'm sure they don't.

I lost 12 times in a row to that one guy. 


Edit: this guy 

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Jul 9, 2022, 14:5407/09/22
02/26/19
2

So my question is, after looking at Paragon's skills, why can't Seer remove the buff and kill Paragon? Don't see anything about it being unremovable..What gives?

Jul 9, 2022, 15:4107/09/22
10/11/20
366
kuiper269

So my question is, after looking at Paragon's skills, why can't Seer remove the buff and kill Paragon? Don't see anything about it being unremovable..What gives?

Accuracy. 

Jul 9, 2022, 16:5607/09/22
06/02/22
72

Hi, read through this, take heart, I had much the same thing with a champ if I see him I just didn't do that arena. I have since bettered my weapons and raised the level of a couple of my guys, now do him no props. 

Jul 9, 2022, 23:4707/09/22
11/29/20
409

Seems to be a big misunderstanding of a core concept for a lot of people in this thread.

Debuffers NEED accuracy to work.  If paragon has 500 resist, and your remove buff champ only has 200 accuracy, you'll never land it.  Need to build more accuracy into your debuffers, and/or take a champ that increases accuracy.

For paragon, easiest way is to use Genzin, Genbo or Rotos to ignore unkillable, but those are pretty specific champs you need to have.  Genbo is  the most obtainable because it's an epic, but it's still RNG on the shard pulls.

Second easiest way is to go first and kill him.

Third easiest way is to have more accuracy than he has resist. :)

dthorne04Moderator
Jul 10, 2022, 01:0807/10/22
12/30/20
6027
chris

Seems to be a big misunderstanding of a core concept for a lot of people in this thread.

Debuffers NEED accuracy to work.  If paragon has 500 resist, and your remove buff champ only has 200 accuracy, you'll never land it.  Need to build more accuracy into your debuffers, and/or take a champ that increases accuracy.

For paragon, easiest way is to use Genzin, Genbo or Rotos to ignore unkillable, but those are pretty specific champs you need to have.  Genbo is  the most obtainable because it's an epic, but it's still RNG on the shard pulls.

Second easiest way is to go first and kill him.

Third easiest way is to have more accuracy than he has resist. :)

I think some people definitely have a misunderstanding, and some just can't be bothered to have a (fairly) simple counter ready. 😂

I will stand by my earlier point that if you can't deal with these types of Paragons, you shouldn't be that high up in arena. It's not meant to be an insult (which I think OP took it as), but just pointing out that dealing with this should be a relatively easy ask if you belong in G5. 

Jul 11, 2022, 02:0107/11/22
08/15/21
897

The player, without any coercion, chose the enemy as the target without having heroes in the team capable of defeating him, and therefore lost.

And now he requires developers to be able to defeat any opponents with any of his heroes?

Did I understand everything correctly?

Jul 12, 2022, 23:2207/12/22
05/07/22
80

Deal with it m8. I can beat a paragorn without anyone who removes buffs. AND I have a go-second team.

Jul 13, 2022, 04:1407/13/22
09/28/19
1

You can'you can get them don't mean they need to be in don't challenge You Know . Just 

Jul 13, 2022, 22:0907/13/22
08/20/21
13

I  love  killing  solo  Paragons.  They  deserve  to  die  (my name  is  not  Agreth  after  all)

Even  if  they  have  godly  resists,  I  make  sure  I  have  at  least  one  toon  with  CC  and  one  with  heal  or  rez,  walk  away  on  auto  and  make  myself  a  sandwich..    10  minutes  later,  I  come  back...   he  dead.

Jul 14, 2022, 13:0207/14/22
09/09/20
23
fordesman

List  3  since  you're  so  good?  Scyl  has  stun.  Rae  has  freeze  &  remove  buffs.  Ma'Shallad  has  true  fear  &  steal  buffs.  Nothing  is  working  so  i  don't  get  it?

Genbo the Dishonored would be your champion  ;)

Check his A2: Has an 80% chance of decreasing the duration of all buffs by 1 turn. This effects cannot be resisted on critical hits.

When booked it gets to 100% so good luck ;)

https://ayumilove.net/raid-shadow-legends-genbo-the-dishonored-skill-mastery-equip-guide/

Jul 15, 2022, 01:1007/15/22
05/03/20
1823

I used Husk with a bad stun set.  Paragon was stunned.  MK beat him to death.  Easy win.  

Thx for the tip.  

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 15, 2022, 09:0907/15/22
02/24/19
7822
ClosedPoly

I used Husk with a bad stun set.  Paragon was stunned.  MK beat him to death.  Easy win.  

Thx for the tip.  

Awesome! :)