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Jul 1, 2022, 19:1207/01/22
02/29/20
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PARAGON NERF NOW

Hi  Plarium,

Any  chance  we  can  make  it  so  that  one  rare  opponent doesn't  make  4  legendary opponents quit  an  arena  battle?  All  Paragon  does  is  keep  casting  'damage  control'   and  it's  impossible  to  defeat,  because  buff  removal  doesn't  work.  I  have  2  champions  here  with  the  skills  to  do  it,  but  they  don't  work.

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Jul 1, 2022, 19:2507/01/22
12/19/19
6295

Git gud n00b 

😆 

But seriously, 100 different ways to beat this... you deserve to lose if u can't come up with 1...


Jul 1, 2022, 19:2607/01/22
12/19/19
6295

And buff removal absolutely does work on Paragon


Jul 1, 2022, 19:5707/01/22
01/19/21
642

Stick a mediocre stun set on one of your unused champions and swap it in. All you need is to keep that champ alive and let it take 5 turns on average for a stun to land. Presto, one dead Paragon. Somewhat tedious maybe, but very simple and accessible for everyone.

Jul 1, 2022, 20:0307/01/22
02/29/20
11

Rae  removes  buffs.  Not  a  chance  of  removing  them,  just  straight  up  "Removes  all  buffs".  So  why  aren't  the  buffs  being  removed?

Jul 1, 2022, 20:0607/01/22
02/29/20
11
Trips

Git gud n00b 

😆 

But seriously, 100 different ways to beat this... you deserve to lose if u can't come up with 1...


List  3  since  you're  so  good?  Scyl  has  stun.  Rae  has  freeze  &  remove  buffs.  Ma'Shallad  has  true  fear  &  steal  buffs.  Nothing  is  working  so  i  don't  get  it?

Jul 1, 2022, 20:0707/01/22
02/29/20
11
EGDNIT

Stick a mediocre stun set on one of your unused champions and swap it in. All you need is to keep that champ alive and let it take 5 turns on average for a stun to land. Presto, one dead Paragon. Somewhat tedious maybe, but very simple and accessible for everyone.

Scyl  has  stun.  0  landed  in  5  minutes

dthorne04Moderator
Jul 1, 2022, 20:0707/01/22
12/30/20
6027

Give your Rae or another buff stripper more accuracy and it'll work. Or find a champ that can ignore unkillable like Rotos.

If you can't do that or don't have those, then you'll have to pass on Paragon defenses. It's a bit troll but not broken or in need of a nerf. 

Jul 1, 2022, 20:0807/01/22
Jul 1, 2022, 20:08(edited)
02/29/20
11
Trips

And buff removal absolutely does work on Paragon


Not  in  this  case.  I  have  the  video  to  prove  it

Jul 1, 2022, 20:1307/01/22
02/29/20
11
dthorne04

Give your Rae or another buff stripper more accuracy and it'll work. Or find a champ that can ignore unkillable like Rotos.

If you can't do that or don't have those, then you'll have to pass on Paragon defenses. It's a bit troll but not broken or in need of a nerf. 

I  don't  understand  why  I  need  more  accuracy  when  there  isn't  a  percent  chance  allocated  to  the  skill?  Literally  says  "removes  all  buffs"  and  fails  to  do  that  because  of  enemy  resistance?  Idk  to  me  it  just doesn't  make  sense.  A  bit  troll  is  an  understatement,  so  they  won't  drop  rank  in  arena defences because  like  2%  of  players  will  beat  their  rare  champion?  Hmmm

dthorne04Moderator
Jul 1, 2022, 20:1907/01/22
12/30/20
6027
fordesman

I  don't  understand  why  I  need  more  accuracy  when  there  isn't  a  percent  chance  allocated  to  the  skill?  Literally  says  "removes  all  buffs"  and  fails  to  do  that  because  of  enemy  resistance?  Idk  to  me  it  just doesn't  make  sense.  A  bit  troll  is  an  understatement,  so  they  won't  drop  rank  in  arena defences because  like  2%  of  players  will  beat  their  rare  champion?  Hmmm

If it doesn't say "this effect can't be resisted" it's a pretty good assumption you need accuracy.

Unfortunately, if a Paragon is something you can't deal with, there is an argument you shouldn't challenge it and possibly shouldn't be at that level. 

Jul 1, 2022, 20:2207/01/22
06/25/20
6640
fordesman

I  don't  understand  why  I  need  more  accuracy  when  there  isn't  a  percent  chance  allocated  to  the  skill?  Literally  says  "removes  all  buffs"  and  fails  to  do  that  because  of  enemy  resistance?  Idk  to  me  it  just doesn't  make  sense.  A  bit  troll  is  an  understatement,  so  they  won't  drop  rank  in  arena defences because  like  2%  of  players  will  beat  their  rare  champion?  Hmmm

Literally every single effect in the game which targets an enemy can be resisted, unless it explicitly states that it CANNOT be resisted.

The only exception to this is block revive, which cannot be resisted despite explicitly not saying it.

If you were running a team of level 50's I'd understand that you may just be new to the game and didn't realise this, but given the team you actually are running, I am quite surprised you haven't figured it out.

Jul 1, 2022, 20:2507/01/22
02/29/20
11
dthorne04

If it doesn't say "this effect can't be resisted" it's a pretty good assumption you need accuracy.

Unfortunately, if a Paragon is something you can't deal with, there is an argument you shouldn't challenge it and possibly shouldn't be at that level. 

Nice,   indirect  toxicity  from  a   mobile  game  forum moderator..  At  least  I have  the self  confidence  to  be  toxic  to  people  directly  right?

Jul 1, 2022, 20:2907/01/22
02/29/20
11
kramaswamy.kr

Literally every single effect in the game which targets an enemy can be resisted, unless it explicitly states that it CANNOT be resisted.

The only exception to this is block revive, which cannot be resisted despite explicitly not saying it.

If you were running a team of level 50's I'd understand that you may just be new to the game and didn't realise this, but given the team you actually are running, I am quite surprised you haven't figured it out.

I  have  the  ability  to  do  it  obviously..  but  is  it  really  wrong  to  question  why  I  have  to  spend  silver  re -gearing  champions  just  so  that  i  can  defeat  a  single  rare  champion  in  arena  defence?  Just  seems  like  overkill  to  me

Jul 1, 2022, 20:2907/01/22
01/19/21
642
fordesman

Scyl  has  stun.  0  landed  in  5  minutes

She has a skill with stun. A skill that requires accuracy to land the debuff, and high accuracy if the enemy has a high resistance. A debuff from a gear set does not require accuracy regardless of the opponent resistance.

As such, a stun set, a frost/frostbite set, or a taunting set can all be used, and it doesn't need to be a good set or put on a good champion. The stun set is perferable since it has the best chance to land a debuff at the right time.

dthorne04Moderator
Jul 1, 2022, 21:0007/01/22
Jul 1, 2022, 21:00(edited)
12/30/20
6027
fordesman

Nice,   indirect  toxicity  from  a   mobile  game  forum moderator..  At  least  I have  the self  confidence  to  be  toxic  to  people  directly  right?

What? There's nothing toxic about it. Paragon is a linear problem to tackle and functions as a gear check of sorts. 

If you don't want to deal with the regearing costs, then don't challenge it?

Jul 1, 2022, 21:0207/01/22
06/25/20
6640
fordesman

I  have  the  ability  to  do  it  obviously..  but  is  it  really  wrong  to  question  why  I  have  to  spend  silver  re -gearing  champions  just  so  that  i  can  defeat  a  single  rare  champion  in  arena  defence?  Just  seems  like  overkill  to  me

Or, y'know, take some random level 60 champ you aren't using anywhere and just put a set on them? Doesn't even need to be good. You don't even need to level the gear. Hell, you don't even need to use a level 60 champ.

Jul 1, 2022, 21:4507/01/22
06/20/19
2181

Dave's  top  10  ways  to  make  it  so  that  one  rare  champ  doesn't  make  it  so  that  a  team  of  four  legos  doesn't  have  to  quit  the  arena  battle;


Go  first  and  kill  him.

take  a  champ  that  ignores  uk.

take  a  champ  that  removes  buffs.

take  a  champ  that  blocks  active  skills.

take  a  champ  that  provokes.

take  a  champ  that  places  fear.  

take  a  champ  that  freezes.

take  a  champ  that  places  sleep.

take  a  champ  that  places  stun.

And  the  number  one  way  to  make  it  so  a  rare  does't  make  it  so  4  legos  has  to  quit  an  arena  battle;

Don't   hit  the  battle  button  just  because  all  you  see  is  an  easy  win  over  a  one  champ  team  before  you  look  to  see  who  that  champ  is.

Jul 1, 2022, 21:5707/01/22
Jul 1, 2022, 21:58(edited)
06/20/19
2181
fordesman

Rae  removes  buffs.  Not  a  chance  of  removing  them,  just  straight  up  "Removes  all  buffs".  So  why  aren't  the  buffs  being  removed?

So  seriously,  if  you  don't  have  a  single  cc  debeffer  with  suficient  acc  to  do  its  job,  that  is  something  you  should  work  on.    100%  means  it  procs  without  fail,  but  you  still  need  acc  to  overcome  res.    What  is  your  Rae's  acc?

Jul 1, 2022, 23:4507/01/22
12/19/19
6295
fordesman

Nice,   indirect  toxicity  from  a   mobile  game  forum moderator..  At  least  I have  the self  confidence  to  be  toxic  to  people  directly  right?

I was directly toxic, please don't ruin my reputation. I point blank suggested anyone who can't beat a solo paragon is lacking basic knowledge of this game.  Aka not very bright. 


Good luck next time :)


Jul 1, 2022, 23:4907/01/22
06/20/19
2181

Here  are  a  few  examples.    This  has  been  my  defense  the  past  few  days.    Weird  thing  to  me,  is  even  if  I  have  a  level  common  on  def  I'll  get  attacked  like  12  times  in  an  hour  then  no  attacks  for  12-24  hours.

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