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(Important Notice) Steel Bowyer Rebalance

(Important Notice) Steel Bowyer Rebalance

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12 серп. 2019, 15:5312.08.19
25.02.19
1
So are we gonna get compensated for all the time, gems, and skill books we wasted on her? This is really making me reluctant to buy/use anything on any of my champions because if they get too strong they just get downgraded and its a waste 
12 серп. 2019, 16:2312.08.19
11.07.19
24
glizdazla said:

lindechene said:


I have been silently observing what is going on with this game and on this forum and now feel like is time to speak up as well.


I do not frequent this forum on a daily basis but I was lucky enough to read this announcement in time.

I did not invest skill books but I have invested time and energy to level up the character to 50 and unlocked the first two mastery tiers.

From my point of view the skills of this character are just of use for Clan Boss therefore I also spent time and energy to farm specific equipment.


What I expected after reading the announcement was a slight adjustment that would put damage output in line with Coldheart.


I fail to see how Steel Bowyer after this patch is supposed to be a "viable" character for Clanboss.


While not all posts are phrased politely I feel like the customers are right to be angry.

This drastic change should have been announced in the in game news section and players should have been compensated properly as the update was released.


All energy, skill books, silver spent in this game have a real world money value.


If characters are changed in such extreme ways customers need to be provided with the option to transfer skill books, mastery scrolls and equipment to other characters. 

As others suggested a compensation in the form of energy and chickens spent on the character seems reasonable as well.


Customers need to be able to trust that the time and money they invest in this game are treated with respect.


I do not agree with some of your ideas. I think that energy is free, so mastery scrolls won't happen. Even if you bought energy in a pack, it still makes no sense. 

As for chickens it is a shady area are because on one side you can technically use any nerfed champion as food. On another if u paid money for 5* chickens and used them to lvl up to 6* you are losing out a lot, but I cannot imagine them lvl down that hero. However, without an option to refund books invested plarium ties ours hands from using that nerfed full of books champion as food because its too precious. It is like throwing money to the bin. 

Books should be returned to people that pay for them because nerfing a champion is devaluing the value of that digital asset bought with money. 

Ideally a method to track all purchasable goods like books and chickens should be developed to track where this resources where used. If any nerfed/buff do happen an option to return these should be presented to people as a form of good will.


We all know that books are not cheap, thus please keep that in mind Plarium and do what is just. 

why only people that paid for books and stuff should be compensated? thats just stupid.. I purchased some stuff in this game but everybody should be compensated because it was THEIR MISTAKE to get out this hero and after 2 weeks nerf him.. nobody should suffer because of that because those players will quit this game.. and even when somebody pay for books and stuff, what if they used for this hero their non purchased book? they are screwed? that is the most stupid idea that I heard in a while to compensate only those that paid for stuff to upgrade that hero
13 серп. 2019, 02:0713.08.19
9

Upgrade Rarity instead of Nerfing?


If a rare champion is performing better then epic or legendary champions would it not be an alternative option to simply adjust the rarity of the champion to match the performance?


Instead of completely changing the mechanic of the champion would it not have been an option to simply change the rarity to epic?


- Players would need to spend more potions to ascend.

- Players would need epic skill books.

- The champion would be more difficult to attain













13 серп. 2019, 07:2513.08.19
11.07.19
24
funny how Marius and Cirilla doesnt even want to reply anymore because they know how greedy liars they are...
13 серп. 2019, 11:4413.08.19
13 серп. 2019, 11:44(відредаговано)
16.07.19
60

alette11 said:


funny how Marius and Cirilla doesnt even want to reply anymore because they know how greedy liars they are...

Marius got "promoted" so he doesn't respond to posts anymore. Cirilla I got nothing on and I haven't seen Valkyrie in forever.

21 серп. 2019, 11:5421.08.19
3
scepticllama said:

I hope you guys are planning on giving us a way to get back the books we have invested. You literally released the champion less than 2 weeks ago, and now you guys are nerfing her making all the effort a lot of us went trough completely useless. Some of us spent money to make this character good for clan boss. If you don't give us a way of getting the resources back im gonna go demand a refund imedietly. This is scammy!
I asked for a refund for these reasons and they said they'd be happy to refund me if I didn't use the items. 
23 серп. 2019, 16:5523.08.19
28
Damn, they really nerfed the hell out of her. I was keeping one in the vault to wait and see how bad the Nerf was... Really bad... Well, out of the vault and into the pantry. She's a food hero now, good job Plarium! You f'd your players again! Mission accomplished!
27 серп. 2019, 05:0227.08.19
02.04.19
1

This nerf doesn’t make sense! Without GS/WM she was out dmg some of her good rare counterparts like Kael and some crappy Epics... I don’t think her dmg was so off the mark that she needed a nerf (but let’s say she did then from 4 hits to 1??? Come on guys). 


If you think she needed to be nerfed then what about someone like Outland monk. At level 40 with full skills and no mastery upgrades, Outland monk out paces rare level 50 and epics level 50 cb dmg quite easily... and by 200-400k. And Outland monk is a common. It seems like maybe you should fix a common champ from outpacing an epic champ before nerfing a rare that outpaces epics.


You might as well have just deleted her completely from the game and rewarded everyone who had her with tomes and brew to make up for it cuz she’s not useful for any cb team now.
29 серп. 2019, 02:1429.08.19
24.05.19
3

I spent considerable time and skill tomes on this champion...you need to offer some kind compensation since she is absolutely terrible and not worth anything other than food for other champions. I am so disappointed in this happening especially since like I stated all the time spent leveling/ranking and gearing her up. There needs to be something given to those that have her on their rosters. Can you please review and respond back with a plan on compensating the players.

29 серп. 2019, 02:1929.08.19
24.05.19
3
I agree the nerf wasn't very well thought through or the data really looked at. It was those that didn't get this champion or spend any time or silver complaining. I am so disappointed with this team doing what they did that I am rethinking putting in any more time or money on this game. I ran the data and it wasn't that far off and in some areas she was not keeping up with other rare champions but that wasn't talked avout. What a terrible move????
4 верес. 2019, 16:3404.09.19
07.07.15
11
I just read through a good chunk of this thread. I'm curious what happened with this? It should not matter if Bowyer was nerfed to be "viable" players invested in her based off her potential at the time with no knowledge of a incoming nerf. If I had invested skills books, chickens, ascensions into this Champion I'd want all those things back. That is insane Plarium would do such a think and not compensate the player base. If I spent any money I would demand a refund from whom ever you made the purchase from. 
4 верес. 2019, 22:0004.09.19
5
Are we still talking about the bowyer nerf?  Let it go.  The ship has sailed.  LET THE THREAD DIE.  If you were going to leave, y’all would’ve done it already.  Now, you’re just whining.
6 верес. 2019, 16:2006.09.19
6 верес. 2019, 16:20(відредаговано)
06.08.19
3

ntp0124 said:


Are we still talking about the bowyer nerf?  Let it go.  The ship has sailed.  LET THE THREAD DIE.  If you were going to leave, y’all would’ve done it already.  Now, you’re just whining.

Are you sure you're not some plarium employee with this kinda attitude? Or maybe did not have the hero nor spent any resources to build her up to have her demoted to a trashmob in under a month from release.

6 верес. 2019, 20:4006.09.19
5
Lol.  It’s part of the game.  I just leveled and scrolled and booked and geared a champ for cb.  He was doing 6 mil per key for about a week now, and I just pulled his replacement.  Now, I have to start all over and those resources feel wasted now.  They probably should’ve helped the bowyer people out, but they didn’t and they’re obviously not gonna.  My only point is that it is probably time to let it go.  Move on.  Shit or get off the pot.
7 верес. 2019, 08:3807.09.19
06.08.19
3
This doesnt mean we have no right to complain about it, if more and more people become disgruntled they can overthrow governments, this is a game ruled by greedy corps unfortunatelly, this will also be the downfall of the game, i got a few other games in mind that offer me way more than this does, shame to see it go this way tho.
7 верес. 2019, 22:2607.09.19
227
Umbreeyoree said:

alette11 said:


funny how Marius and Cirilla doesnt even want to reply anymore because they know how greedy liars they are...

Marius got "promoted" so he doesn't respond to posts anymore. Cirilla I got nothing on and I haven't seen Valkyrie in forever.

Yup, Marius dont need to give a fok anymore and thats bad coz he was the only one here who could stands his ground in conversation. Rest of moderation was and is just trash.
11 верес. 2019, 16:3411.09.19
31.05.19
12
People spent money on upgrading SB! Nerfing her is almost tantamount to fraud because it deprived people of the value they thought they were going to get. You wouldn’t be happy if you spent 1000 dollars on an iPhone only to find out later that Apple downgraded the phone to save on battery life. If somebody cheated on you or committed a crime, you don’t just “let the [issue] die”. I mean what kind of thinking is that?! Letting it go without justice being served only gives the offending party another opportunity to do the same wrong thing again.

ntp0124 said:


Are we still talking about the bowyer nerf?  Let it go.  The ship has sailed.  LET THE THREAD DIE.  If you were going to leave, y’all would’ve done it already.  Now, you’re just whining.

21 верес. 2019, 01:0721.09.19
07.11.16
20

Plarium, its discouraging to see this going on and on. Heroes being rebalanced becuase you launch them without the proper testing. Players dedicate time and money, tons of time and some tons of money into the game. When you strip away all that investment showing incompetence or irresponsibility related to the proper tests of heroes before being released, adds to the discouragement thats ramping around.


We would need you to be more responsible with releasing heroes and if by any chance you have to rebalance some hero, you have to offer something in exchange to those that leveled the hero and booked her, etc. Like the option to reset the hero to zero getting brews for all the experience equivalent to what each one has invested in her.

Remember that experience is real life time we invested into the game and you should show respect for that by reimbursing when its because the lack of adequate testing for proper releases on your end.


Whats fair and respectful, it is...
26 верес. 2019, 04:0126.09.19
3
I think that for plarium to say sb would be nerfed but still be viable was a joke. They know that sb is junk now and that's why none of them post in this thread anymore. None of them want to catch flak for their own issues. Someone from plarium should have the professionalism to respond and explain what happened. 
20 черв. 2020, 21:5720.06.20
1
Hey Marius c'mon man Steel bowyer is one of the few champs with Enemy max ho ability atleast give her back her old cooldown on A3 and regarding damage increase her 1/3 she is is hitting like 1/5 %  before nerf
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