Hi Marius,

Please implement ability to reset a rebalanced/heavily nerfed Hero to return resources spent on this hero (skill books, chickens, potions) and reset hero to its base level. This may be time limited option. This way if someone is very unhappy with what you have done to hero, can undo his investment.

The whole problem is not about nerfed hero being viable after nerf.  Its about a fact that we spent time/resources on hero we think will help us best at the moment. Even if hero stays viable it may not be best option out of the heroes people have to level up. Knowing what will happen to changed/nerfed heroes earlier they could choose different one to work with.

Marius said:

Underperforming Legendaries have also been mentioned, and there is news about them as well. I will be posting a thread in the Feedback & Suggestions -> Champions today (very soon, actually), both outlining some of our plans and giving players a chance to voice their opinion on Champions that need a buff or a nerf. 

And what is written there really will somehow be taken into account by the developers, or will it just be a place to drain the negativity of the disgruntled? ))

I must say that this is just another level :D and i have to abmit that i'm suprised that you guys can actualy still suprise me :D

You should give players the opportunity to reclaim all resources spent on a nerfed champion. 

Somewhat overpowered ones are being nerfed and it's quite obvious and sensible for people to invest scarce resources precisely in those "OP" heroes and it's heartbreaking when all that goes down the drain.

Hello, everyone.

Getting to you a bit late as the post was made literally in the middle of the night. Firstly, I will remind everyone to follow the forum rules, no matter the frustration. I had to delete several posts and two players were temp-banned. I understand being annoyed, constructive criticism is welcome, but severe infractions of the code of conduct will result in appropriate penalties. If you are uncertain about your post, check the Rules.

On the matter of Steel Bowyer, we are very well aware that the situation with her release is not something that should normally happen. I will be passing your feedback and requests to the Dev Team today. It will be our goal to maintain the Champion's viability even with the adjustments that are to be implemented. I'll see if I can get any sneak peeks of the changes before they are rolled out. 

Underperforming Legendaries have also been mentioned, and there is news about them as well. I will be posting a thread in the Feedback & Suggestions -> Champions today (very soon, actually), both outlining some of our plans and giving players a chance to voice their opinion on Champions that need a buff or a nerf. 

sooooooooooooooooooooon

Marius, 

Marius, 

Rather than an overhaul, why not just reduce the damage output. Where Cold Heart does damage based of Enemy Max Hp, why not have Steel Bowyer do half of that damage with her A3 hits, thus giving her A3 a slight edge over Cold Hearts damage (1.5x) but not being ridiculous or (for what we all fear) useless.

Dear Plarium. Are you shure that steel bowyer nerf is a good idea? After tons of people books spend on her... It is like a scum all your players.

May be you need to better test new characters. And focusing on rebalance bad legendary champions. But not on champion, that only one use is a clan boss!

Unknown_Ranger said:

Given that she's been out less than a week I'd say this is pretty fast acting by Plarium.  Considerably better than the Painkeeper situation.  On one hand I feel a little bad for the early adopters who invested heavily into her, since that could also easily be remedied by Plarium, but on the other hand we did just see Painkeeper get nerfed without compensation so I'm less sympathetic with anyone who didn't learn the lesson there.

And the lesson here is what? "Don't invest in decent rare champs ever?"

That's the lesson here? I invested heavily into PK and now I am forced to replace her anywhere she's been used with zero compensation and zero foreshadowing for a MASSIVE quadruple nerf to a champ nobody was complaining about EVER.

Marius said:

I understand being annoyed, constructive criticism is welcome, but severe infractions of the code of conduct will result in appropriate penalties. 

You think you understand our frustration? You know how it is at lvl 60 and your only lengendary is Astralith (who probably never gets buffed).. your fully upgraded lvl. 60 Painkeeper gets nerfed and just right after you spend all your rare tombs into Steelbower you read your investment was wrong again... are you sure you know what our frustration is? 

Well at least there still is the Foli fusion running.... no wait... it's impossible to solve that giant puzzle if you have a job and family

JandraM said:

You think you understand our frustration? You know how it is at lvl 60 and your only lengendary is Astralith (who probably never gets buffed).. your fully upgraded lvl. 60 Painkeeper gets nerfed and just right after you spend all your rare tombs into Steelbower you read your investment was wrong again... are you sure you know what our frustration is? 

Well at least there still is the Foli fusion running.... no wait... it's impossible to solve that giant puzzle if you have a job and family

Never tell us again you understand if we are being annoyed because you don't!

Ah yes, clearly, I am just a Cog in a Soulless Corporate Machine ;) 

But no, I play the game myself and had some of my top Champions nerfed (Crimson Helm being the most dramatic change). I also play other games and had to deal with similar situations before as a player.

Marius said:

Лучше вместо того что бы нерфить Стальную тетиву, сделали повышение характеристик легендарным персонажем, как может быть такое что эпические убивают лег , а когда в команде 3 синих и 1 эпический и против тебя 4 леги 5 звезд с полным развитием и ты их убиваешь?

вы завлекаете людей и опрокидываете их с "войной фракции", башню в подземелий должны били открыть давно уже, в итоге вы вупаскаете персонажей под слияние и не протестировав их выпустили и когда он стал народным любимчиком как Холодное сердце (они практически не чем не отличаются) вы обрезаете её? 

Я УДАЛЯЮ ИГРУ 

Better instead that would nerf a Steel string, made a performance of the legendary character, how can there be such an epic kill that formed , and when the team 3 blue and 1 epic and 4 legs against you 5 stars with full development and you kill them?

you draw people in and topple them with "war faction," the tower dungeons should be beaten to open for a long time already, in the end you upscale characters under the merger and without testing they were released and when he became a people's favorite as a Cold heart (they are practically not different) you cut it? 

I DELETE THE GAME

Hey Marius, not presuming to tell you how to do your job, but honestly, the next post you make in here should really mention reimbursment/compensation plans from the developers (should ideally happen alongside the bowyer rework) 

Would help a hell of a lot to sedate posters who have used resources (myself included)

Just posting about a future nerf & saying stay tuned really only annoys players (especially when 'soon' has multiple definitions! 😉)

Have a, er, good? day

Kin Ookami said:

Hey Marius, not presuming to tell you how to do your job, but honestly, the next post you make in here should really mention reimbursment/compensation plans from the developers (should ideally happen alongside the bowyer rework) 

I am not going to promise something that I was not told about. 

On top of that neither you nor I know exactly what Steel Bowyer will be like after the changes. As I've mentioned in my original post, we want to keep her a viable Champion. 

Marius said:

But no, I play the game myself and had some of my top Champions nerfed (Crimson Helm being the most dramatic change). I also play other games and had to deal with similar situations before as a player.

this shows me that you don't really understand why people are upset... if you play games from other companies you would know that you get your ressources back if such drastic changes happen. 

We got a lot promises about buffing certain champs (how many times you told us Astralith will be next?) and instead two freshly released rares get nerfed just right after people heavily invested in them. If the devs didn't saw the CB potential in Steelbower (and that's all she got)... than there must be something wrong with your character design team.

JandraM said:

this shows me that you don't really understand why people are upset... if you play games from other companies you would know that you get your ressources back if such drastic changes happen. 

Not necessarily, no. Balance changes are the norm in competitive multiplayer games, compensation for them is not something that happens often.

We got a lot promises about buffing certain champs (how many times you told us Astralith will be next?) and instead two freshly released rares get nerfed just right after people heavily invested in them. If the devs didn't saw the CB potential in Steelbower (and that's all she got)... than there must be something wrong with your character design team.

I maxed skills and leveled painkeeper to 50, nerf, leveled this new girl to almost 4 full ascent  and a few books. You should consider refunding books when you nerf.

Nice, delete even more replays...That fore sure will make people more happy.

"Freedom of speech"  HA