ASH said:

This update does seem to benefit the smaller players, and those that don't know what they're doing.  Some of us worked years to perfect a system for hitting the LH.  Even with explaining it some people still couldn't grasp the concept.  Now everyone gets a reward every time, where's the skill in that?  Blasphemy, your comment on not being into this game is a little offensive as I'm a lvl 86 on Kabam's site and am conflicted myself on continuing with this madness.  So in turn, I assume you log in for an hr or so a day then move on to another game, I've been playing this game for over 3 yrs and am logged in an avg of 6 to 8 hrs a day, at least.  Needless to say, I've seen many updates and changes to the game.  I have always just stuck it out and moved forward, this however is one change I can't have Plarium's back on.  Those of us that have softened a bunch of Prizes will not get payouts on them so they really get setback.  Those of us that recently have hit a Prize and are in the middle of building towards our next are setback.  Those that are close to a reward now could have that affected by these smaller rewards which will affect what lvl they should hit next etc.  It was a HUGE update to just throw at us with no notice, and as far as it being in other games on Plarium, who cares.  I'm a Pirate at heart and only play this game.  So now, I leave the Forum as another disgruntled voice.

I didn't mean to offend you, just trying to keep a cool forum going,

many think the worst when something has changed....

And this recent update those prizes you did before in the LH hasn't changed.

your old banking is still there, eventually you will get paid......... 

I play daily as well 6 to 7 hrs if not more when real life isn't in my way calling me,

Im a level 80 and been playing from the beginning, these changes get to me too,

You see prizes still work on banking system ....... 

Whenever you "clear" the bank you will get a "BIG" payout... 

if the bank is not cleared you will get a consolidation prize which will be deducted from the "Big" payout...... 

Now again, if you aren't getting the "BIG" prize that you deserve then keep tapping the lighthouse

eventually you will get paid, the system is still the same, they just added a small reward 

for the smaller players that like to whine alot because they don't win anything 

So now the devolopers added this so now even the little ones get something, even though the the banking doesn't add up

Sorry, the small rewards have no sense. It just make more difficult to track the prizes. I was also a low level and never needed it. It is not fair that because some beginners complain, the game changes the rules. And sorry but this feature will not stop their complaints.

 Please consider to put the previous algorithm back.

A change that I noticed these last 2 days: When the Prizes appear again, they are not spread evenly. For example today I have only one offense prize between the levels 30-39  that is where I like to start because the size of my current army.

I have only a level 36, preceded by a level 23 and followed by a level 40. Before this update I had a plenty of prizes in that range. Starting at level 40 I have to risk so much. I can't enjoy the prizes anymore as I use to.

I won't give this a chance, this is total ascinine to me. Just when we were use to the banking system and looked forward to our large prizes, then you go and screw with this and so to do a level  77 prize and throw away 1000 SOTL or Juggs just to win 298, well just how fair is that. That sort of prize use to bank me at least 3-4k prizes. So I'm done with plarium and their stupid ideas. Why would we want to even do prizes to lose that much, counting on our big wins, to be slapped in the face. If half of the BH members would come to chat to learn the game they they would know how to do the prizes. So you redid the algorithm bases on new players playing the game, well what about us older players who have supported this game for almost 2 years now????? You have once again totally taken away from us, to profit from your ill gotten greed...I've had it with plarium games. To those new players who were compllaining about their prize winnings, I say to them learn the game and how prizes work before complaining that they don't win. TO undermine us, the loyal members, well sorry that's just wrong. and I"M ONE WITH THIS SCREWED UP GAME...You'll find that the more you take away from the players of the game, the more players you will see quitting the game. Just in my BH alone we have had more high level players that have been in the game well over a year quit...What does that say for your stupid manipulated changes????? Hope it was worth it Plarium...

BlackBart said:

WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.

if they are quitting over something silly as this 

then they wasn't that into the game anyways....

Give the prizes a chance this method is already been in the other plarium.com games

for over a year now, it's just being brought to PTOF

if they learned how to work this small change im sure we can...............

Sorry, but been playing since december 2015, l know how the prize system works/worked, right now it is broken, simple as.

Linda McCarty said:

Blasphemy said:

BlackBart said:

WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.

if they are quitting over something silly as this 

then they wasn't that into the game anyways....

Give the prizes a chance this method is already been in the other plarium.com games

for over a year now, it's just being brought to PTOF

if they learned how to work this small change im sure we can...............

This isn't something silly. I've been in this game almost 2 years, and I had my prizes down to an art. I kept up with my banking, I knew what I had to lose before I won again and generally I could tell you which prize I would win big on again. I've put all the other silly as you called it, changes to this game behind me in the past, everytime there is a change it always means their sticking it to us the loyal players. And yes I've been in this game as much as 18 hrs. a day, you can't get more serious about a game as that. I've grown a BH into the top 10, and No this is the last straw for me. I count on my large prize wins, especially when I have to pay back so much to get to the point where I will win big again...If these smaller players would come into their BH's chat rooms and learn the game, learn how to do prizes, and just the basics of the game, then they would have better knowledge of how everything in the game works. But no they come in, play a few days and want to complain that they aren't given their dues? well what about us??? the long term players? The ones who have spend a fortune on this game? Who were dedicated players? and no Blasphemy, this isn't silly to me. THis is just another screw you at the players from plarium. Over the last year they started taking this and that away, then when they came out with these stupid bastions, I called it the money pit then. So then, they took away our Brotherhood adventures. So we don't get those rewards but once or twice a week, these are rewards that benefit the smaller player more than us the larger level ones. And now our prizes. Sorry, this isn't silly to me. I counted on my large prize wins. I don't want these puny wins each time. I would much rather have a large win within the 4 to 5 prizes each time. So yea, your going to lose a lot of players over this, and it's not silly. This is the most serious attack against the long time players in my book...I've been biding my time, waiting things out, well this may just be my last hurrah also. I've been a total dedicated pirate. But will not continue to allow plarium to just slap us down continually. But I will say this, even if I do stay in this game, they won't get another penny out of my pockets for these ruby packages. SO in terms they have have cut off their noses to spite their own faces....But their loss...

@ blasphemy Who on earth do you think you are to insult fellow players ?, l am said level 87 player who has decided to call it quits.

PLEASE put it back to how it was, Linda is correct....I have kept quiet before with all the other changes in the past that i didn't agree with ...i.e. changing the targets system into these stupid treasure islands... that was a waste of my time using pearls on to take 3 targets.....but this is such a massive and ridiculous change that i can not keep quiet...NOBODY not even smaller players that i have spoken to like this cruel change.... it's a no brainer to return it to the way it was..

One little player told me that they have ended up with no troops because with smaller and smaller payouts had been left with no choice but to do her smallest levels till they ran out and she ended troopless, even though her bank is owing... how can that be a good thing for any smaller guys.

It's deffo not good for us bigger higher level players... if i burn 6000 sol's plus and end up with a measly 500 frigates, then how the heck does that help me take on my next highest level.... level 131  ?????!!!!!!... it's unatainable...

There is not one BH that is not hating this move by Plarium...

you will see that i have over the long time playing this game, not written many post on the forum as it's not really my thing.. HOWEVER, i and others feel so strongly about this NEGATIVE move by plarium on dedicated players that i have now written 3 times on this matter....

DON'T KEEP POO POO'ing all the comments from us the knowledgable ACTUAL GAMERS.

wow, took a whole hour to read this thread since my last reply.

let me put some simple points in this

1-- Do not forget that getting a bigger payout is not a hard & fast rule that on this prize it is 100% guarantee you will get it. It can be delayed

2-- Your bank is their and it is definitely going to pay you sooner or later. 

3-- It is possible that your bank value was in negative and you have to pay back that value to get bigger payout

now new things with this new system

1-- Sooner or LATER, that later thing really pushed some players to lose all of their troops, because they are not getting anything from prizes not a single unit and waiting for their bigger payout. It can be really hard when there is no small level of prize available for you and you need lot of units to finish off one prize. 

To reduce that severe impact of prizes this system was introduced. You are getting something back every time which is enough to take on another low level prize (with a possibility of a bigger payout or otherwise atleast some units)

2-- This system is really helpful for new players specially the one who do not understand banking and they go for prizes, when they get nothing they simply quit it. Now they will be getting units back with various %age and with that they will be determined to take on new ones and get a bigger payout

3-- If you hit 10 prizes in a row and win all of them you will get a better payout than the earlier 9. Which will compensate for some of your losses and rest is still their in your bank and you are going to get that just like old system

4-- All we have to do is to find some strategy that will work on this new prize. 

Pirates do not get feared of testing new things and learning new tips & tricks.

At last pirate life is full of hardships.

Sometimes they got ferdinard troops around them and sometimes they are feasting on booty of ferdinard.

So keep going & everything is going to be fine and more good than before.

This is a no sense. The small amounts of units doesn't benefit anyone.

Was very hard to figure out how to approach the prizes. Their behavior has changed. We play money on this. It is not fair you change the rules.

Mule said:

This is a no sense. The small amounts of units doesn't benefit anyone

Was very hard to figure out how to approach the prizes. Their behavior has changed. We play money on this. It is not fair you change the rules

Please PUT BACK the PREVIOUS PRIZES!

We are not planning to change the current system. I'm sure you'll get used to it soon. 

I understand that you may feel confused about this new Update. However, that's what our players have asked for a long time. They've asked us to make Prizes pay out each time you hit them.

Now they do. But it doesn't mean that these small payouts are the only payouts you will ever receive. You will still get full payouts as soon as your Bank is filled enough.

So now you have:

1) Mini-payouts to make sure you will always have some Units to throw into the fight.

2) Big payouts which you will receive as usual.

I don't see any negative point here. And you?

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

I don't see any negative point here. And you?

 I have explained several times through the thread, could youcheck my posts, please?

It cost me time and money to figure out how to approach the prizes. Now that I got it you change the rules? It is not fair.

Please send this thread to the development team. They may consider to put back the previous Prizes.

I have already sent your feedback. However, they will not return the past system.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

1) Mini-payouts to make sure you will always have some Units to throw into the fight.

Please, see that it has no sense at all. If you want to have units you must know when to stop to play Prizes.

Tell me what I can do with 28 SOLs after win a Prize lvl 42: Nothing.

limeyjohn said:

Linda McCarty said:

Blasphemy said:

BlackBart said:

WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.

if they are quitting over something silly as this 

then they wasn't that into the game anyways....

Give the prizes a chance this method is already been in the other plarium.com games

for over a year now, it's just being brought to PTOF

if they learned how to work this small change im sure we can...............

This isn't something silly. I've been in this game almost 2 years, and I had my prizes down to an art. I kept up with my banking, I knew what I had to lose before I won again and generally I could tell you which prize I would win big on again. I've put all the other silly as you called it, changes to this game behind me in the past, everytime there is a change it always means their sticking it to us the loyal players. And yes I've been in this game as much as 18 hrs. a day, you can't get more serious about a game as that. I've grown a BH into the top 10, and No this is the last straw for me. I count on my large prize wins, especially when I have to pay back so much to get to the point where I will win big again...If these smaller players would come into their BH's chat rooms and learn the game, learn how to do prizes, and just the basics of the game, then they would have better knowledge of how everything in the game works. But no they come in, play a few days and want to complain that they aren't given their dues? well what about us??? the long term players? The ones who have spend a fortune on this game? Who were dedicated players? and no Blasphemy, this isn't silly to me. THis is just another screw you at the players from plarium. Over the last year they started taking this and that away, then when they came out with these stupid bastions, I called it the money pit then. So then, they took away our Brotherhood adventures. So we don't get those rewards but once or twice a week, these are rewards that benefit the smaller player more than us the larger level ones. And now our prizes. Sorry, this isn't silly to me. I counted on my large prize wins. I don't want these puny wins each time. I would much rather have a large win within the 4 to 5 prizes each time. So yea, your going to lose a lot of players over this, and it's not silly. This is the most serious attack against the long time players in my book...I've been biding my time, waiting things out, well this may just be my last hurrah also. I've been a total dedicated pirate. But will not continue to allow plarium to just slap us down continually. But I will say this, even if I do stay in this game, they won't get another penny out of my pockets for these ruby packages. SO in terms they have have cut off their noses to spite their own faces....But their loss...

@ blasphemy Who on earth do you think you are to insult fellow players ?, l am said level 87 player who has decided to call it quits.

As Linda says above this is no minor change, you may be a moderator but that does not mean for one second you know more about this game than us, am telling you now, it is not working right.

My intentions where not to insult anyone 

--- Limy i understand this discussion and how many feel like the developers have screwed up for the old way in doing prizes

But we have been told that the banking system is still intact, that all that was added was small rewards now so you get a reward no mater what...

you just deduct the small reward from your banking,  Once you lose what each of the fleet you won last time cost to build, then you will win. 

It's all in the banking and you keeping up with it

some other hits to show you this is still working

If you re'above gives you an idea how to do it,

bascally the same as the old method, but now you get some small rewards even after