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Apr 5, 2022, 21:0004/05/22
03/12/21
40
BenHuyAmon

Add in the fun of arena freezing on the loading screen too (has cost me 28 points today)

Ya, they need to fix that annoying issue as well. It adversely affects your ability to rise as well, even when everything else is working, since it counts as a loss in spite of the battle never actually starting.

Apr 6, 2022, 00:2404/06/22
02/24/19
4
Metailurus

The proposed changes to be blunt do not address the problem, they read like tweaks playing around the margins and look as though they still don't really accept that Arena is fundamentally broken.

The real issue is this - 

Classic Arena is required player progression as PvE competence is locked behind it (Great Hall, Tier Bonuses, 2 Champions)

Plarium wants it to be a competitive system rather than a progression system, yet reward it as a progression system.

Pick one. Competitive or Progression. Take the other elements out and put them elsewhere.


I'm sure the argument would be "Ah but no one would play Arena if there were no rewards for doing so". Blind to the fact that no one really wants to play it as things stand.

Amen to this. You can't progress if you can't compete and you can't compete if you can't progress. Alot of can'ts right there.  

Dear Plaruim, 

Very few people want to "compete" in a broken arena. Your vision of Arena is a true PVP aspect of the game which it is not and will never be as it is. Minor "tweaks" will not fix it, and you know it. So glad i stopped giving you my real money.

Reformed Ex-Gambler

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 6, 2022, 01:1704/06/22
02/24/19
7821
xypha

Amen to this. You can't progress if you can't compete and you can't compete if you can't progress. Alot of can'ts right there.  

Dear Plaruim, 

Very few people want to "compete" in a broken arena. Your vision of Arena is a true PVP aspect of the game which it is not and will never be as it is. Minor "tweaks" will not fix it, and you know it. So glad i stopped giving you my real money.

Reformed Ex-Gambler

Another 2/24/19.

We're EVERYWHERE. lol

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 6, 2022, 01:1704/06/22
02/24/19
7821

Also, I hear you, and will continue to pass on your thoughts to the Plarium folks.

Apr 6, 2022, 06:2804/06/22
Apr 6, 2022, 07:40(edited)
10/08/20
7

My appreciation for your arena shenanigans is wearing thin very fast. Honestly - spending most of my day rotating arena in G2 yesterday, going through all 35 free arena coins for +2 / +4 / +7 wins, ending the day at almost 2400 points. Logging in today to see that over night I was dumped down to 2309 points by defense losses with -9/ -11 / -13 / - 15.

Mod Edit: Can do without the last bit. 

Apr 6, 2022, 11:1704/06/22
Apr 6, 2022, 11:23(edited)
03/12/21
40

Heh...JUst saw my first 500+ team at the gold 3/gold 4 boundary. That is 232% of my teams power. Obviously don't stand a snowballs hope in hell of beating that.

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 6, 2022, 13:0404/06/22
02/24/19
7821
yellamokara

Heh...JUst saw my first 500+ team at the gold 3/gold 4 boundary. That is 232% of my teams power. Obviously don't stand a snowballs hope in hell of beating that.

I usually love 500k teams myself, depending on who the comp is.

But I've got a team I swap in meant to strip their buffs even over their resistance numbers, using Yoshi + Serris/Sethallia (Rian from DT also works here). If you see em again, screenshot and we can chat about it.

Apr 6, 2022, 19:2704/06/22
03/12/21
40
harleQuinn

I usually love 500k teams myself, depending on who the comp is.

But I've got a team I swap in meant to strip their buffs even over their resistance numbers, using Yoshi + Serris/Sethallia (Rian from DT also works here). If you see em again, screenshot and we can chat about it.

It was a Siphi, a powered up Trunda and some others iirc. They would have gone first and killed my team before I got a turn. 

Apr 7, 2022, 09:4604/07/22
Apr 7, 2022, 09:47(edited)
03/30/21
163

I just logged on and the only effect i can see is they have reduced the range of opponents (points) 

G4 is still full of siphi and +4 rotos teams in my first 3 pages (i refreshed with gems to take a look)

Absoloutely nothing fixed for mid game players from what i can see. They dont seem to have listened at all regarding all the deflationary mechanisms 

Mission changes look good for early game.

Apr 7, 2022, 09:5904/07/22
04/10/20
40

I'd love to hear a 'vision' of what the arena player experience is supposed to be

As a <low/mid/end> game player you will be fighting in the <tier> arena.

You will be facing teams of <points> with <legenadries>

You will need to manual <X> fights to maintain you position as you will be attacked <X> times a day

You will be earning <X> <medals> a day

You will be spending <X> minutes a day in the arena

Etc

Apr 7, 2022, 11:0204/07/22
03/30/21
163
bill

I'd love to hear a 'vision' of what the arena player experience is supposed to be

As a <low/mid/end> game player you will be fighting in the <tier> arena.

You will be facing teams of <points> with <legenadries>

You will need to manual <X> fights to maintain you position as you will be attacked <X> times a day

You will be earning <X> <medals> a day

You will be spending <X> minutes a day in the arena

Etc

No idea, i have been hit 4 times since the patch, lost 14 points, 13 points, 11 points, 9 points.

Looks no different to before, except i seem to be getting hit more, and see less opponents i can reliably kill.

So it is overall worse for me.

dthorne04Moderator
Apr 7, 2022, 13:3504/07/22
12/30/20
6024

Let's take this discussion to the new thread outlining the changes to Arena, which can be found right here

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