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Why do we get worst champions in the daily logins? Scion thread

Why do we get worst champions in the daily logins? Scion thread

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Dec 2, 2021, 12:0712/02/21
05/03/20
4
Harbby

Scion was removed from the sacred shard pool and will only take 2 months vs the 4 for cleo. 

you can get it from shards as well as cleopterix with the rare shards, they cannot be obtained with sacreds

Dec 2, 2021, 12:2312/02/21
05/15/19
3

I say just like they can nerf a champ they can make a champ better,  I say think positive! 

Dec 2, 2021, 12:4212/02/21
Dec 2, 2021, 12:42(edited)
01/04/20
1698
Sawamura

you can get it from shards as well as cleopterix with the rare shards, they cannot be obtained with sacreds

That's fair, I should have specified. I'll edit my original response. 

Dec 2, 2021, 12:5112/02/21
06/28/21
85
Trips

I consider myself on the border of late-game/end-game (always will be at least a step or two behind -- which is good) and I think the guaranteed champs are better than shards.  For some, the specific champs may be less useful than for others but everyone overvalues the shards beyond extreme.  ALmost as much as they overvalue the lost chickens.  One thing I am 100% positive, is that the TOTAL amount of free stuff the players get is way more than before the daily login changes that the F2C crowd will never stop complaining about.... 100% improved.  No doubt.  Not even debatable.

ROFLMAO, overvaluing the chicken?

I guess several thousand energy are "overvalued", right?

Yes the available stuff nowadays is way more than it used to be way back when. Way back when we also did not have an inflated champion roster, so the chance of pulling good stuff was actually quite higher even if there were fewer ressources.

Actually in relation to ressources and champion pool we get now way less out of any given shard...


Dec 2, 2021, 15:2712/02/21
12/19/19
6285
Scathach

ROFLMAO, overvaluing the chicken?

I guess several thousand energy are "overvalued", right?

Yes the available stuff nowadays is way more than it used to be way back when. Way back when we also did not have an inflated champion roster, so the chance of pulling good stuff was actually quite higher even if there were fewer ressources.

Actually in relation to ressources and champion pool we get now way less out of any given shard...


Yes, overvaluing 1 "lost" chicken -- boohoo from the F2C segment.  The amount of free energy, free 2xp, free chickens is abundant in the game.  But you actually have to play the game (daily quests, adv quest, clan quest, CvC, DT, events, tournaments, tag shop...) .  I am f2p and have like 7 weeks of 2xp, a mailbox full of refills and tons of chickens in tavern.

And I think your math is off on several thousand energy for the chicken.  It is probably less than 2 days energy in 12.3 brutal.

Dec 2, 2021, 16:2512/02/21
10/06/21
7

Point is They Are Taking Some of The Only Free Resources we Have for Tournament and Events. People Need To Quit Blindly accepting Plariums Excuses. At 271+ people have better Champs We would Rather Have6%chance for something good and event points/tourny points. Idk Why Ppl  Are So Ok With Getting  robbed.

Dec 2, 2021, 16:3012/02/21
12/19/19
6285
parscode15

Point is They Are Taking Some of The Only Free Resources we Have for Tournament and Events. People Need To Quit Blindly accepting Plariums Excuses. At 271+ people have better Champs We would Rather Have6%chance for something good and event points/tourny points. Idk Why Ppl  Are So Ok With Getting  robbed.

lmao.  f2p can't get robbed! nothing to steal... lol

Dec 2, 2021, 17:3912/02/21
11/07/20
2

Scion sucks! I don't want him, and will end up getting him from shards eventually anyway. Bring back the sacred shard and 5* chicken. 

Dec 2, 2021, 19:2112/02/21
01/09/21
11

It's funny how mods are removing all inconvenient posts here and leaving only the claqueurs. 

Well done Plarium again. 

Dec 2, 2021, 21:5812/02/21
08/01/21
129

Say what you will about his crappy kit, Scion looks cool.  

But it's annoying that it'll take two months to get all of his fragments.  That treats the epic as though it's HALF as valuable as the legendary.  

Plarium, as we all know, considers legendary champions to be about 16x as valuable as epics (i.e. the usual chance of pulling an epic from a sacred shard is 6%).  As it takes four months to get Cleopteryx, it stands to reason (does it not?) that it should only take about 10 days to get an epic.

Blah blah rabble rabble rabble!

harleQuinnModerator
Dec 2, 2021, 22:1612/02/21
Dec 2, 2021, 22:19(edited)
02/24/19
7821
shadowtroop4

It's funny how mods are removing all inconvenient posts here and leaving only the claqueurs. 

Well done Plarium again. 

We are? It looks to me like you deleted your own post. I know neither Harbby nor I removed it. 

Would you like me to restore it for you?

Dec 2, 2021, 22:4912/02/21
08/01/21
129

As they obviously don't want to give out hoardable resources that could be used to complete fusion events without spending any money, maybe they could just (1) get rid of fragments as daily login rewards, (2) hand out life tokens instead, and (3) make it so champs bought with life tokens don't give event/tournament points.

Dec 3, 2021, 08:4412/03/21
604
shadowtroop4

It's funny how mods are removing all inconvenient posts here and leaving only the claqueurs. 

Well done Plarium again. 

Dont worry, no matter they are how try to delete those posts, the truth is still truth. And dont forget, you can wrote to other forums such as reddit.com

harleQuinnModerator
Dec 3, 2021, 08:5312/03/21
02/24/19
7821
Deleted

Dont worry, no matter they are how try to delete those posts, the truth is still truth. And dont forget, you can wrote to other forums such as reddit.com

We also moderatre that forum too. Is there any feedback you'd like to add though?

Dec 3, 2021, 09:5612/03/21
06/28/21
85
Trips

Yes, overvaluing 1 "lost" chicken -- boohoo from the F2C segment.  The amount of free energy, free 2xp, free chickens is abundant in the game.  But you actually have to play the game (daily quests, adv quest, clan quest, CvC, DT, events, tournaments, tag shop...) .  I am f2p and have like 7 weeks of 2xp, a mailbox full of refills and tons of chickens in tavern.

And I think your math is off on several thousand energy for the chicken.  It is probably less than 2 days energy in 12.3 brutal.

I a ftp too.

Sure the first 3 months I had continous double xp, well not anymore...

You get 1 3 day double xp per month from advance quests, 1 ay weelly double xp, maybe 1 3 day per month from some sort of gift, CvC gives you what 2 days? you get a day here and there from events. How you cna save jup to 7 weeks plus be under double xp after 4plus months is beyond me without gem investment.

I saved up all free pots for 3 months, done all advanced quests all dailies and collected the daily free pot. Still I had to use up about half of the pots to reach the champ training lego book....plpus using up all of the 21 3star chickens I saved...

Yes there are moer ways to gain energy for free than at the start. But then at the start you did not need to level mediocre champions because the champion pool was much smaller and you could concentrate on the impactful ones#, because you actually could pull them without insane luck.

you need 5 4 stars for 1 5star.

means:

25 4stars 5 of them levelled, means you need to 27 4stars (as you always level in 3s and 6 levelled)

means

4 3stars per 4star, means 108 3star, 27 levelled.

You can get the energy from the tag shop only after roughly 4 months. Since all your tag currency goes to drex shards beforehand.


means you need to level 108 2stars.

2stars 80 energy per levelling means in packs of 3 - 2880 energy

27 levelled 3stars - 192 energy per 3pack - 1728 energy

6 4starss levelled - 416 energy per 3pack - 832 energy

In total one 5 star chicken means an energy investment of 5440 energy. You can shave of a few hundred depending on how lucky you are to get some 3star rare from 12-3 brutal.

A 5 star chicken represents roughly 5k energy. 


OpheliaA1Moderator
Dec 3, 2021, 11:0112/03/21
03/11/19
365
Trips

3 free legos next week: cleo, yannica, and the new login champ.

And everyone will still cry for the lost sacred shard... 😆 🤣 😂 

you mean a 4 star chicken 🎁

Dec 3, 2021, 13:0412/03/21
04/02/19
200

Can't help thinking who designed this thought that upping Crit Dmg and Increase attack for one turn  was a good idea AFTER his AOE goes off - for one thing one turn rules out his AOE so it can only be used on a single enemy

Dec 3, 2021, 13:0512/03/21
11/17/20
10

How about a middle ground? Replace the champion frags with life tokens. It would still take the same amount of months to get a lego, but you would get to choose from the pool of legos from the vendor. 

Dec 3, 2021, 15:2912/03/21
Dec 3, 2021, 15:31(edited)
02/06/21
57

The 5* chicken needs to be back, and the user should be given a choice of gold shard, fragments for a specific champion, or life tokens either at the start of a month or when they click the box.

Personally I might have gone for cleopterix under that system (if i didnt have her already), but certainly wouldnt have bothered with scion

Dec 3, 2021, 16:1612/03/21
12/19/19
6285
Scathach

I a ftp too.

Sure the first 3 months I had continous double xp, well not anymore...

You get 1 3 day double xp per month from advance quests, 1 ay weelly double xp, maybe 1 3 day per month from some sort of gift, CvC gives you what 2 days? you get a day here and there from events. How you cna save jup to 7 weeks plus be under double xp after 4plus months is beyond me without gem investment.

I saved up all free pots for 3 months, done all advanced quests all dailies and collected the daily free pot. Still I had to use up about half of the pots to reach the champ training lego book....plpus using up all of the 21 3star chickens I saved...

Yes there are moer ways to gain energy for free than at the start. But then at the start you did not need to level mediocre champions because the champion pool was much smaller and you could concentrate on the impactful ones#, because you actually could pull them without insane luck.

you need 5 4 stars for 1 5star.

means:

25 4stars 5 of them levelled, means you need to 27 4stars (as you always level in 3s and 6 levelled)

means

4 3stars per 4star, means 108 3star, 27 levelled.

You can get the energy from the tag shop only after roughly 4 months. Since all your tag currency goes to drex shards beforehand.


means you need to level 108 2stars.

2stars 80 energy per levelling means in packs of 3 - 2880 energy

27 levelled 3stars - 192 energy per 3pack - 1728 energy

6 4starss levelled - 416 energy per 3pack - 832 energy

In total one 5 star chicken means an energy investment of 5440 energy. You can shave of a few hundred depending on how lucky you are to get some 3star rare from 12-3 brutal.

A 5 star chicken represents roughly 5k energy. 


Applaud your efforts, but I will take the under if someone is willing to do the correct math. Or maybe a link to the correct total.  I admit I am too lazy.