If you think Falmond isn't a Nuke, you haven't seen him in action. He can 1 shot entire teams sometimes. If they try to hide behind defensive buff? No problem, Burning Courage will strip them away.

Godseeker has so much rezzing. She can even rez herself if she dies not to mention she's pretty tanky.

Sanguinia really does do a good job, build her with high speed and res and she can get the team out of AOE stuns and remove those defense reduction or Weaken buffs enemy teams like to cover yoru team in with her A3. She can protect the team from Debuffs while also keeping up a heal with her A2 and her A1 can strip away enemy buffs sometiems while also dealing some damage.

I have Fenax and he's pretty good but the problem is with Falmond and Martyr my team is already 3 Spirit heroes. I have a few other Sacred Order Legendaries: Gilseah Soulcaller, Roshcard the Tower, He-Man, Archbishop Pinthroy, Astralon. As far as epics go, I have Deacon Armstrong and Lodric Falconheart. Falconhearts shields on 2 turn cooldown is pretty nice but I do end up missing Sanguinia's debuff removal when I use anyone else.

If you think Falmond isn't a Nuke, you haven't seen him in action. He can 1 shot entire teams sometimes. If they try to hide behind defensive buff? No problem, Burning Courage will strip them away.

Godseeker has so much rezzing. She can even rez herself if she dies not to mention she's pretty tanky.

Sanguinia really does do a good job, build her with high speed and res and she can get the team out of AOE stuns and remove those defense reduction or Weaken buffs enemy teams like to cover yoru team in with her A3. She can protect the team from Debuffs while also keeping up a heal with her A2 and her A1 can strip away enemy buffs sometiems while also dealing some damage.

I have Fenax and he's pretty good but the problem is with Falmond and Martyr my team is already 3 Spirit heroes. I have a few other Sacred Order Legendaries: Gilseah Soulcaller, Roshcard the Tower, He-Man, Archbishop Pinthroy, Astralon. As far as epics go, I have Deacon Armstrong and Lodric Falconheart. Falconhearts shields on 2 turn cooldown is pretty nice but I do end up missing Sanguinia's debuff removal when I use anyone else.

I suggest you post your roster and sort it by rank, not faction. Also I wouldn't even recommend spending money to get a Void Legendary unless it's a fusion or something. 

Falmond only needs 1 other SO champ to be effective and you should have Alice so there you go. The other 3 can be based on your roster, just remember this is about abilities not themes. Heck, Cardiel's partner is a Demon. Konstantin's lore is he and Vlad are mortal enemies yet they get synergy bonuses together. 

But yes, post your roster and you'll get much better help from everyone.

I suggest you post your roster and sort it by rank, not faction. Also I wouldn't even recommend spending money to get a Void Legendary unless it's a fusion or something. 

Falmond only needs 1 other SO champ to be effective and you should have Alice so there you go. The other 3 can be based on your roster, just remember this is about abilities not themes. Heck, Cardiel's partner is a Demon. Konstantin's lore is he and Vlad are mortal enemies yet they get synergy bonuses together. 

But yes, post your roster and you'll get much better help from everyone.

Alright, there's my roster. I finally figured out I can combine duplicate champions to boost stats. I REALLY wish I had known that sooner cus pretty much many of my level 60 epics would be maxed out in their +s

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If he doesn't have three SO teammates he doesn't get the AOE hit if he kills an enemy with his Burning courage, nor the AOE True Fear, the team also isn't immune to cooldown increases nor do they get the revive on death buff.

Not to mention he doesn't the 20% damage buff for each turn taken by other characters. He can literally deal over 100k damage against some of these dumb speed teams. I've had numerous games where Falmond alone survived due to his damage reduction from enemy turns and revive on death and just took 0 damage from the enemy team until he FINALLY gets to activate and I just use burning courage and wipe out the entire enemy team in one hit. He does get really strong with a full SO group.

For starters, it looks like you have 4 supports and no nuke.

Martyr is an excellet arena champ, godseeker is iffy, sanguinia has no business being there.

Off the top of my head, Shamael and Fenax are the only good non-lego sacred order hitters, and they're both single-target.

Edit: I mean, and if you're *losing,* then they aren't doing *that* good a job keeping your team alive :P

So while I understand you like to play the game the way you do, champs like UDK, Wukong, Ankora should all absolutely be 60'd. Ankora is tremendous in this meta. UDK helps stop Siegfrund, Rotos and other single target nukers. 

Ninja should be 60'd for PvE purposes.

Pythion should probably be 60'd even though he's not quite as good as he used to be relative to the field. You're looking for tanky champs who in stoneskin can give you a chance to go 2nd and win and Pythion, Ankora and UDK are all champs that do that for you. Ankora will help protect your highest crit damage nuker from being CC'd with her passive. 

There's a lot of good options and I agree with you, I'd also add Gnishrak should be 60 because he's great for a lot of content and is one of the best choices for dealing with the over-abundance of Stoneskin. I'm honestly jealous of the TWO unity champs.

There is a SO grouping available for Falmound now that I see the roster that is for Go Second. Falm, Alice, Fenax and Cardinel. Not S tier but here's how it works OP:

Build Falm/Alice/Fenax purely for damage with no defense. Build Cardinel purely for survival. They go and kill all 3 except Cardinel, Cardinel revives and because of how broken her revive is, they all take their turn immediately after being revived. 

So, you are consciously employing a go-second Falmod Nuke Strategy while also complaining that you are too slow to go first?

You need to make up your mind about how you want to approach Arena.

If you want to succeed more in arena, and you are willing to field toons/teams from other factions, WuKong, Gnishak, UDK, Foli, Ronda, Staltus & Mortu are all strong Arena Toons and you could build strong go second team with Mortu, UDK, WuKong & Cardinal.

Do Banner Lords count as Knights in Shining Armor too?  Or only Sacred Order?  

Do you play the rest of the game?  Or just arena?  You have some strong PVE toons that aren't even 6* yet, and based on how long you have been playing, you should have Arbiter, but I do not see her, so maybe prioritize her missions, even if you just want to do arena.  At your level, she is the bomb for arena and is the very definition of "on the good team".

And if you only want to run SO Toons, then He-Man, Alice, Deacon & Falmond may be a better option than what you are running....unless you are so slow that you won't get turns.  ITITC, then get thyself to Dragon.     

Gnishak is obviously tremendous but was a purposeful omission. I have worries about OP's stoneskin situation and builds in general as it pertains to going first. 

Yeah, I only have enough decent stoneskin armor to equip Kaja the Wry. I really don't like her as she's pretty laqme lore-wise but I need a rezzer to team up with Acelin and my only BL rezzers are Kaja or Ursula.

By the way, while I have your attention, I've been looking for opinions on Aothar for clan bosses. I notice Poison does a LOT of damage to them and as I understand the "4 times at random" style attacks, if the only enemy is the clan boss, he would put 4 poison stacks on them with his A2 attack. That's how it works, right?

I have a feast saved up so I could bring Aothar right up from 40 to 60 if I really wanted to use it.

By the way, while I have your attention, I've been looking for opinions on Aothar for clan bosses. I notice Poison does a LOT of damage to them and as I understand the "4 times at random" style attacks, if the only enemy is the clan boss, he would put 4 poison stacks on them with his A2 attack. That's how it works, right?

I have a feast saved up so I could bring Aothar right up from 40 to 60 if I really wanted to use it.

You've got Ninja, he's probably your best Demon Lord dps right now. Also you have Demytha, who makes a Unkillable team possible. But here we are, back to "stuck on Knights" nonsense. You should at least thank the Mods for taking the time to try and help, especially since you're refusing to accept reality.

"t's so Tedius seeing a mix the same 10 Champions on every single team" There's always going to be tiers of champions, especially in a game designed to make money by spending on shards. Especially with power creep.

You've been given a full SO team to use in Arena that will work and doesn't need to win the speed race, but because their "aesthetic" doesn't fit your Ren Faire obsession it sounds like you won't even try.

Until we start seeing screenshots of you winning with teams that fit the meta, it's clear all other advice is a waste of time 

Geez. You're getting a little harsh. He's asking about a potentially viable CB toon, not pounding the drum of Only Knights in Arena....  

It's only been a couple of hours.  Give the dude some time to build some toons.  Heck, I am about as end-game as it gets w/o being a big-spender, and it takes me weeks to level, master and gear toons.

Geez. You're getting a little harsh. He's asking about a potentially viable CB toon, not pounding the drum of Only Knights in Arena....  

It's only been a couple of hours.  Give the dude some time to build some toons.  Heck, I am about as end-game as it gets w/o being a big-spender, and it takes me weeks to level, master and gear toons.