As a self professed hydra lover and even you cant be bothered to manual it 3x a week? Says it all right there.

Also love the advanced quest to use a hydra key. With the addition of clash even more reason that it should have never been implemented.

It's not that Hydra isn't fun. It just takes too long. Even on auto it takes almost an hour to finish. On manual it's even worse.

Well these are "free" additional rewards and damn good ones.  But the time suck is beyond real. 😆 

^^ My views are somewhere in the middle of you guys

I quite like building hydra teams and seeing how much I can score on auto. All I do aside from hydra is farm oil after all.

But I don't like the way the trinkets have been turned into another CVC like competition.. CVC destroyed plenty of clans.

I agree with trips ideas, let all 5 places get a chest, it sucks to get nothing after making the effort

And review the rewards.

"As we are sure you are well aware, some teams that include Corpulent Cadaver deal disproportionately high damage to Hydra. We know about the situation and are considering ways of bringing Hydra battles to better balance without making any involved Champions weaker."

Just a suggestion: What about giving one of the heads an unresistable ability that removes shields? Sort of Like Yannica

No thank you. I rely on mithrala shields

I feel like this would be a good place for some prism crystals

Would it really break your team if every 5th turn of one head your shields get cleansed and you know to recast them immediately after?

Yes. With your suggestion, my Nightmare team simply would fail.

By far the simpler suggestion is to just cap the number of points you can get per difficulty.

the problem with that is whale clan match-ups would end in a 5-way tie

No they wouldn't. You cap them at a reasonable amount. Leave Nightmare uncapped. Done.

I feel that, and my teams are very auto friendly.

Id much prefer to see Clash every other week offset with CvC.

Agreed.

Just change corpulent cadavers skills

It's ridiculous changing an entire mode for one minor champ that was created before hydra was even an idea

And yes I could build a corpulent cadaver team but view it as exploitation 

I'm curious to see what path they take, but its overwhelmingly evident something needs to be done.

I would be happily down to see (at least) some combination of changes to point multipliers per difficulty and adjustments to Cadaver/Infinity in the Hydra Clash setting. 

What I don't want - and think would be frankly a catastrophe relative to other options - is a change to how shields work, damage mitigation, any of the mechanics in that realm.

I think point multipliers being adjusted would be the best thing now.

Looking at my current clash first and second place clans atm have mostly hit normal and hard hydra. A couple cadaver teams and just being able to do a larger number in lower difficulties in general just get more clash points.

I have been just doing keys for best hydra chest wich should get more clash points. As of now I will probably end up using my strongest teams in reverse and going back to hitting normal hydra and skipping NM.

Seems the opposite of the intentions of hydra clash.

I think the Cadaver/obscene damage at Normal/Hard teams set up a pretty rough situation. It stinks to tune a Nightmare team, hit the stat thresholds on top of having necessary champions just to get dumpstered by a Cadaver team.

I could set up a baby Cadaver team, do my 1 billion at Normal or Hard but then my clan gets forced into really crappy matchups after, and that's hoping we win. On top of all this, Cadaver teams do exist - though much more difficult to build - at the higher difficulty levels. It has me thinking that multipliers and damage need to be considered in tandem.

So yeah, I get you. Right now Clash is asking you to spend more time than ever in Hydra for potentially a massive waste of your time.

This and Evilized's post certainly seems to sum up the issues from this thread. Stinks to see people feel like they are being pushed right out of doing Hydra by the Cadaver and the Reset teams.  

As always everyone, please continue to share your feedback, I am listening and passing it on to Plarium.