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harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 17:2103/21/23
02/24/19
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Trips

Because people don't want/listen to any advice.... 

Complaining is easier than going to farm 12-3 to rank up your champs.

Mar 21, 2023, 17:4603/21/23
09/02/22
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I'm honestly done attempting to help people when it comes to UDK. The problem is that they don't want assistance, they don't come here seeking advice.  

They come here pissed off because they just queued up against a Champion that they don't want to understand and sat there for 45+ minutes auto attacking with a team that was neither properly built nor equipped. 

People want UDK changed? Okay. Here's the change I propose. Give him a passive like CB has: 

Gathering Fury [Passive] Starting from the 5rd turn, the damage inflicted by all Skills increases each Turn. Damage increases by the same percentage each Turn and accumulates over multiple Turns. Starting from the 10th Turn, damage is increased by a greater amount. Starting from the 20th Turn, all attacks will ignore any Block Damage and Unkillable buffs on each target, and apply Block Revive on champions that the UDK killed.  

This way the UDK can go ahead and kill the people who have no chance of ever defeating him instead of just sitting there soaking up damage and healing.   

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2023, 17:5603/21/23
12/30/20
6215
Trips

Because people don't want/listen to any advice.... 

I do wonder how many people don't even bother reading the passives on UDK, get dumpstered a few times and then go into "This Champion is completely broken, plz nerf" mode.

If nothing else UDK has proven to be a game knowledge check at times, but there are those who won't bother ever listening or try to learn, for sure.

As for that fight above, if you're bringing those champs against that team, you probably shouldn't be in Gold 5. 

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 17:5703/21/23
02/24/19
7965
dthorne04

I do wonder how many people don't even bother reading the passives on UDK, get dumpstered a few times and then go into "This Champion is completely broken, plz nerf" mode.

If nothing else UDK has proven to be a game knowledge check at times, but there are those who won't bother ever listening or try to learn, for sure.

As for that fight above, if you're bringing those champs against that team, you probably shouldn't be in Gold 5. 

When are we removing the loss limits in Gold? Certainly has changed whether people need to learn Arena to play Arena.

Mar 21, 2023, 17:5803/21/23
09/02/22
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harleQuinn

When are we removing the loss limits in Gold? Certainly has changed whether people need to learn Arena to play Arena.

Just as soon as I complete my Great Hall... 😂

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2023, 17:5903/21/23
12/30/20
6215
harleQuinn

When are we removing the loss limits in Gold? Certainly has changed whether people need to learn Arena to play Arena.

I'm hoping soon. If anything it's ramped up the entitlement and distorted what the learning curve should look like in PvP. 

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 17:5903/21/23
02/24/19
7965
Kankle69

Just as soon as I complete my Great Hall... 😂

I feel like you'd be alright, since you're willing to seek out and use advice. Arena can be a much more enjoyable experience when it isn't mindless button pushing.

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 18:0003/21/23
02/24/19
7965
dthorne04

I'm hoping soon. If anything it's ramped up the entitlement and distorted what the learning curve should look like in PvP. 

I wanted to say entitlement, but I didn't. But yes, that is high on all the Raid socials right now.

Mar 21, 2023, 18:0903/21/23
02/11/21
932

Geez, is UDKrying still a thing? We beat it with a brand new team, we beat it with Armiger, and I was actually building Knecht to beat him up, but realized Commons can't wear Amulets or Banners, so gave up on that.

Seriously, in a well-built go-second/revive team, he can be a pain in the rear. But other than that, he's nothing special once you figure out how he works. He's a stall champ, that's about it. 

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2023, 18:1003/21/23
12/30/20
6215
harleQuinn

I wanted to say entitlement, but I didn't. But yes, that is high on all the Raid socials right now.

I'm just surprised the UDK mini riots rage on but perhaps I shouldn't be. He requires a bit less of a straight line approach and that is a bit of a shock for newer players, I suppose. 

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2023, 18:1203/21/23
12/30/20
6215
Balltazer

Geez, is UDKrying still a thing? We beat it with a brand new team, we beat it with Armiger, and I was actually building Knecht to beat him up, but realized Commons can't wear Amulets or Banners, so gave up on that.

Seriously, in a well-built go-second/revive team, he can be a pain in the rear. But other than that, he's nothing special once you figure out how he works. He's a stall champ, that's about it. 

I think we're destined to do this until the end of time. 

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harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 18:1303/21/23
02/24/19
7965

Okay so we're doing another set of these. Bronze 1 to Gold 1. Can we go undefeated this time?? This time without ever using UDK???


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Not a lot of UDK teams yet to fight, but I'm hitting everything on my pages.



harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 18:1503/21/23
02/24/19
7965

So far we are 35-0. Just cruising with a speed nuke team, one not even fully ascended or booked.

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A few screens to show folks what level 50 accounts see at each area.

Bronze 1

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Bronze 3

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Bronze 4

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harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 18:3403/21/23
02/24/19
7965

Alright. we've made it into Silver 1! 45-0 so far. Out of tokens so we'll need to wait a bit to run 10 more.

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The teams I was fighting to get here was just cick and go so far.... here's some examples of the types of teams I am seeing here:

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harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 19:3703/21/23
02/24/19
7965

I really should prolly build and ascend this Ronda. Here is how she has been built so far.

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And here is our Tayrel right now.

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Will report back with new builds for Silver using the gear I've got on Athel likely.

Mar 21, 2023, 20:1003/21/23
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Not really hard to beat a half lower team at starting leagues ;-) specially when looking a bad builded teams with tons of experience. 


harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2023, 20:1103/21/23
02/24/19
7965
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Not really hard to beat a half lower team at starting leagues ;-) specially when looking a bad builded teams with tons of experience. 


Thanks for agreeing with my point. I assume when I don't lose going all the way into Gold you will also agree that others should be able to do it as well. :)

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2023, 20:1703/21/23
Mar 21, 2023, 20:18(edited)
12/30/20
6215
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Not really hard to beat a half lower team at starting leagues ;-) specially when looking a bad builded teams with tons of experience. 


gee I wonder what changed 

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but yes, it's generally a good idea to competently approach arena fights in raid. it's usually a winning strategy, glad we could solve that conundrum.

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2023, 20:2303/21/23
12/30/20
6215

it is almost like the entire point of this thread was to disprove incorrect notions - which you seemed to have - about UDK's power level and to teach players who lacked the in game knowledge on how to tackle him. 


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the builds above are nothing special. just a practical, competent solution to a problem. 

Mar 21, 2023, 20:2403/21/23
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harleQuinn

Thanks for agreeing with my point. I assume when I don't lose going all the way into Gold you will also agree that others should be able to do it as well. :)

Yes, when automaticly know how set a team, because playing 4 years ago, and pick out a starter and when see your team is better 2x times at least (^_-) Not every starter read forums, dont have knowledge just want to enjoy a game. For us this is an easy question, who is beateble in the game fast and how. But we are not starters, try to see their problem fromother aspect.