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11 квіт. 2021, 12:1811.04.21
15 квіт. 2021, 18:04(відредаговано)
231991

Oh, Mister Marksman! What do you have said?

„I assure you that all our players are in the same in-game conditions.“
Hmm, and i assure you, that you aren‘t right. They are underthrown the coincidence, but this makes the players unequal. Lucky or unlucky, is there no difference? Am i gambling or playing? No difference? What is the matter with the efforts and the works of the players? Always the same?

It seems for me, you don`t know the rules of your own game. 

Let`s have a look at it. 

In games like Vikings, which are highly determined by coincidence, you
can use the normal distribution (or gaussian distribution) as an
useful instrument for describing the probability of events.  

The distribution of probability gives you the probabilities of occurrence of different possible outcomes. You can visualize it as a function, the probability density function.
Also called, because of her shape, bell curve. 

See the following picture: 

Probability dension function
 

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µ   expectation of the distribution, also called median, mean or expected value

σ   standard deviation 

σ2  variance of the distribution 


The standard deviation is a measure of the amount of variation of a set of values. A low standard deviation indicates that the values tend to be close to the mean or median of the set, while a high standard deviation indicates that the values are spread out over a wider range. The standard deviation is mathematically defined as the square root of variance. Variance shows the squared deviation of a random variable from its median.
It measures how far a set of numbers is spread out from their average value. That means, that more unexpected values are comprised by a high standard deviation than by a low standard deviation.
The unexpected gets normally, so to say. If the deviation has the value zero, there are no unexpected values and all values have the value of the median. 

For further informations see the articles in Wikipedia. 

What has this to do with Vikings? 

In Vikings the coincidence plays a great role. The algorithms are programmed with a high standard deviation and a high variance. So normally extreme values for coincidences are not unusual. For instances see some forumposts like „Letter to Plarium about New Equipment Upgrades“, „Helheim Floor 10 Node 7“ and others.
A high variance is helpful for plarium but not for the players. It cancels their efforts and is a form of disrespect for them. 

Therefore Plarium: Shorten the standard deviation! 

                              Cut the bellcurve at 1 standard deviation! 

                              Dont betray your players! 

                              Respect the efforts of your players!
 

15 квіт. 2021, 00:4815.04.21
31.01.18
343

Unless there is something hidden about the female champion that I do not know about, I would say that, 

Gideon
 your quote of,

' 2616  Strength;  5233  Agility;  2616  Intuition;  and  26  Vitality  (ergo  female champion)'  fails , 

There is nothing to stop a player rearranging the distribution of skills on either of the champions.

15 квіт. 2021, 01:3915.04.21
231991

KROW,

Male  champion  has  base  47  vitality.    Female  champion  has  base  26  vitality.   Second  wind  can  redistribute  points,  but  you  cannot  reduce  any  stat  below  base  for  whichever  champion  is  selected.    Just  a  small  difference,  and  doubt  makes  much  of  a  difference.

With  gear,  had the  same  58459  health  that  most posted  set-ups  have.


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26 квіт. 2021, 19:3326.04.21
27.05.17
2

Does anyone remember where this Beowolf head band was situated?  Been through 9.4 to 10.6 many times, just maybe there is a so called sweet spot....be lucky..

27 квіт. 2021, 00:1227.04.21
27 квіт. 2021, 00:19(відредаговано)
31.01.18
343

According to the game, if you know where to look, which is on the info pages on the floors, 

You may find the thing that you seek on any node on floor 10, and nodes  4,5,6,7 on floor 9.

Having reread your post, I think you knew this already, and are just looking for a guaranteered success.

Its probably as likely as finishing the last task.

22 трав. 2021, 03:3922.05.21
22 трав. 2021, 03:43(відредаговано)
07.01.18
2
LePink

Does anyone remember where this Beowolf head band was situated?  Been through 9.4 to 10.6 many times, just maybe there is a so called sweet spot....be lucky..

You can get both it and the boots on Floor 9

9-3 for the boots and 9-5 for the headband.

3 черв. 2021, 03:0303.06.21
3 черв. 2021, 03:04(відредаговано)
02.10.20
1
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Finished  10.7  with  ***  twice.

Initially  replicated  Tedesco  gear/spec,  but  was  0/128.    Only  came  close  3-5  times.

So  then  switched  to  most  commonly  posted  gear  set  (Beowulf  Headband;  Spellbound  Flail;  Enchanted  Trim;  Bewitched  Breastplate;  Northern  Bulwark;  Durable  Boots),  and  ended  up  borrowing  JoeTheFirst's  specs  with  2616  Strength;  5233  Agility;  2616  Intuition;  and  26  Vitality  (ergo  female champion).  Got  first  ***  on  45th  try.    Then  decided  to  see  how many  to  repeat,  and  got  second  ***  on  199th  try.    So  2/199  overall.     Came  close  about  10%  of  the  time.


In  my  analysis,  latter  set-up  yielded  significantly  better  chances.    In  about  10%  of  runs would stay  above  50%  while surviving  Boss  plus  10  or  more  additional  enemies.    Then  just  needed  luck  for  one  of  these  runs  to  coincide  with  easier  draw.    For  both  ***,  had  9  empty/chest  and  only  11  enemies.    For  1st  ***  Had  3  T3,  5  T4,  2  T6,  and  Boss.  For  2nd  ***,  had  4  T4,  4  T5,  2  T6,  and  Boss.


Helped  to  get  empties,  low-grade,  and  non-range.    If  you  draw  a  T6  range,  then  almost  impossible  to  get  ***.


Finished  Helheim  in  7  weeks.    Got  2nd  ***  17  days  after  getting  the  1st.


This setup exactly got it for me tonight. 3 runs and I hit it.  Thanks for sharing!

Forgot to capture run 1 but it was all t5/t6. Here is runs 2 and 3 following same path as posted above this guys post. Up and around the top. 

emp, t5 kil, t4 cav, t5 ran, t3 cav, t5 ran, t5 mel, emp, t6 sco, t4 sco, t6 kil, chest, boss (26K), t5 ran, emp, t6 cav, t5 mel, t4 mel, t5 kil (DEAD) 

emp, t5 mel, t4 mel, t4 mel, emp, t3 mel, t6 kil, t4 mel, t4 sco, chest, t6 mel, chest, chest, t5 kil, chest, emp, boss (35K), emp, chest, chest

Finished with 50.3 health!!!

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18 черв. 2021, 19:4418.06.21
01.06.19
12

What is M? I don't see that anywhere in weapons. Do you mean Spellbound flail?


Thanks for clarifying!

6 лип. 2021, 13:5506.07.21
24.01.17
1

buongiorno, penso di essere posseduto da qualche malignità, ho perso il conto di quante volte ho tentato di completare il nodo 7 del piano 10, ho provato tantissime composizioni dei punti per la campionessa, ma non sono riuscito.

mi sembra sia davvero una cosa che decidono loro quando farlo superare, altrimenti ci sarei riuscito con più di 250 tentativi.

l'unica differenza della campionessa è che io anche con tantissimi piani e nodi completati non ho trovato la fascia di beowulf, ho gli stivali di beowulf, ma come ho visto non servono, bisogna avere la fascia di beowulf, anche questa per pochi .....

sono stufo !!!!!

10 лип. 2021, 03:3410.07.21
10 лип. 2021, 07:54(відредаговано)
08.05.17
54
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To win this, there are multiple random factors at play:

1. How many glooms you will get (with 11-12 maximum, you may have a chance)

2. How many Blue glooms you get (if you get more than 4, you are very likely to fail 3 stars)

3. Type of Gloom you get. I noticed that some glooms are harder than normal i.e. A green gloom that takes longer to kill than a blue gloom, or a Blue Gloom that you could sware it matches a Red one!

4. Last thing is your gear. You need a lot of Dodge i.e. around 8K or more, Crit around 4-4.5K

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO TWEAK YOUR GEAR TOO MUCH (I have all the gear and have already tried all different combinations, Super dodge, super crit, super strength, super health, combination of all..... none work)

When the above factors are "ALL" in your favour you will pass with 3 Stars!

Accordingly.... YES it is purely luck. You have to keep doing it until luck knocks your door.

The only difference 8K dodge offers is that you manage to kill the boss or even finish the node more often. For the rest it doesn't increase your chance to pass. The game is called luck and it is so intensely boring I stopped trying. I have three accounts at this node and non of them can pass. Changing gear settings is a waste of time. Silly boring luck and no strategy at all. Who got this stupid idea?

10 лип. 2021, 14:4110.07.21
10 лип. 2021, 14:48(відредаговано)
27.12.18
31

This is a build to beat last floor.

Equipment: Beowulf headband, spellbound flair, enchanted trim, bewitched breastplate, northern bulwark, durable boots

 Viva Champion stats following 3150 str, 4315 agi, 3000int, 26 vit

There are some luck to beating the floor no matter what, so cross you fingers for some empty rooms! 

With this build you beat your foes with decent strength and criticals without the need with lots of dodge and prolonged battles. 

20 лип. 2021, 19:1620.07.21
21.06.17
1303

 

I think that you are wanting to get all of Beowolf's gear and that will mean you complete everything.

I think this is a mistake. I know that two of the pieces  would appear to give less boosts  than items you can forge, so unless there is some 'magic' in having all the gear, which I doubt, you are probably wasting your time hoping to find them all, as it's not necessary.

Quite a few people have already finished all 10 floors. 


5 серп. 2021, 23:0005.08.21
3

Lvl 50 floor 10  can't get pass 18 of 21

6 серп. 2021, 04:2406.08.21
08.11.18
37

I am on floor 10 of Helheim catacombs. A combination of strength, intuition, and agility helps. But if you acquire some Beowulf equipment you advance further. I on clearing the 5th node on floor 10 but champion is only 43nd level. I will need to advance to about 46th level to clear node 5. But I am not having any problems so far. So, strength cuts through enemies armor. Intuition allows you to reduce an enemies damage against your champion. And agility allows you not to get hit.

31 берез. 2022, 16:4431.03.22
231991
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I am on floor 10 of Helheim catacombs. A combination of strength, intuition, and agility helps. But if you acquire some Beowulf equipment you advance further. I on clearing the 5th node on floor 10 but champion is only 43nd level. I will need to advance to about 46th level to clear node 5. But I am not having any problems so far. So, strength cuts through enemies armor. Intuition allows you to reduce an enemies damage against your champion. And agility allows you not to get hit.


What do I earn on completing nodes with 3 stars, instead of just finishing them with 1 star? 



 

31 берез. 2022, 17:1931.03.22
31 берез. 2022, 20:02(відредаговано)
21.02.18
1224

Here I am with 9 *  to go, with my own thoughts and questions,thinking there has  been nothing posted here in ages so everyone else must have done it by now.

What you get depends on what you have or haven't already claimed.

However on finishing all nodes with  3 * on a floor, there are the extra boosts and bonuses which vary from  floor to floor, I think  if you actually read it, it explains it exactly in the text in Hellheim.   

Added later.

It might not have been possible to copy and paste  the information here, and would have taken too  long to type it all out , then I had an idea....

Below is the  forum link to the official explanation from the admin staff.

https://plarium.com/forum/en/vikings-war-of-clans/666_game-database/240442_helheim-bonuses/

7 квіт. 2022, 18:2107.04.22
8 квіт. 2022, 09:35(відредаговано)
05.04.22
1

some advice for me  ? i have the most common equipment, but i dont have headband beowulf. i have only the boots.  i try also some different combination but nothing work for me until now


looks like a dead forum

20 берез. 2021, 17:1920.03.21
07.02.21
3

I can't really complain about node 10.7.

Vikings is not a pure strategy game, but also a fighting game, where I have to be uncertain about the outcome.

Each unpredictable algorithm translates into luck for those who pass quickly and bad luck for those who pass late. Is that gambling? I think not really.

My 122 attempts bored me to death, but in the end I got what I wanted.

Are so many? They are few?

It doesn't matter, in the end I made it.

Plarium did not choose you do not pass and you pass, it simply made the passage of node 10.7 unlikely.

In the rest of Helheim, however, it was necessary to choose the equipment and the bonuses to proceed sometimes faster (get to the chest) or with more resistance (complete a level with 3 *).

I remain of the opinion that it is not pure gamble, but an appropriate mix.

19 берез. 2021, 21:5319.03.21
231991

Luck?? LUCK???

I think its changed under the radar......... I'm sure, This is now Gambling, Spend your money place your bets, take a chance, cross your fingers, say a few prayers. Cuss and swear do not pass go do not collect 3 stars. Now do it all over again. 😂😂😂

Happy days (dare I say it) Good Luck. 🌟⭐🌟

26 квіт. 2022, 07:5226.04.22
26 квіт. 2022, 07:52(відредаговано)
16.10.20
3

so i have reached level 10 and now i am on node 7..and cant get the 3 stars for the last 3 weeks of playing running it everyday bought some mark of resolve..etc.. etc..then i switch my hero out frustration from female to male..and then booooom!. Good luck everyone.