I understand what are you saying, but this is very peculiar situation when some rules must exist for abuse. Rules are applied and changed not only in RL but in games also, Plarium isn't very different from that and it must be flexible and react to anything which can harm their project.

We are not different from other kingdoms in terms of agreements that are not in the book, we applied all good stuff we could, non hitting policy during CVC or KVK even when same kingdom clans are at war, purge 1 or 2 hours before KVK and other useful stuff... However, this small clan and his leader is using this non regulative field. Not only they attack every member from every clan no matter how big clan was, but they are actually asking for compensation in resources - they are blackmailing us so that some clan wouldn't be attacked.

We can't do anything about that. They can get zeroed by us, which happened before but is hard to do bcs of quick shielding and they usually don't harvest themselves. Still, it is futile since their only purpose is to make troops for this kind of tactic. They exist to bully and ask to be payed for attacks to stop. And we are not talking about small amounts of rss and hurt ego.

Whole kingdom is affected by it, all clans possible. We are losing events and people are leaving the game.

Well it is very important for no one to pay them rss so they are not attacked ... and well maybe try some tile traps ... and yes bullies are a pain in game just as in life ...

CIM said:

Well it is very important for no one to pay them rss so they are not attacked ... and well maybe try some tile traps ... and yes bullies are a pain in game just as in life ...

Not sure what kind of rules you would suggest that would "work" ...

Something like.... if there is arranged peace among all clans, you couldn't shield up if you attack someone from your kingdom for 1 minute, for second attack 5 minutes, 3rd - 10 minutes and so on. I know it can affect those who have reserve towns with rss packs  (who don't like to give percentages but instead to collect all with attacks) but it shouldn't be harmful if that kingdom has already peace between events.

Firstly I feel really sorry for your clan and kingdom, idiot bullies with deep pockets are real problem (not only in game, but RL also), but don't go crazy with ideas.

Yellow K said:

 Something like.... if there is arranged peace among all clans, you couldn't shield up if you attack someone from your kingdom for 1 minute, for second attack 5 minutes, 3rd - 10 minutes and so on. I know it can affect those who have reserve towns with rss packs  (who don't like to give percentages but instead to collect all with attacks) but it shouldn't be harmful if that kingdom has already peace between events. 

This one is UTTER nonsense. If I won't be able to shield up straight after attacking I'm quitting this game. And I'm not be only one, that's beyond nonsense. And in one minute after first attack I would be burned to the ground. This is NOT Farmville, but WAR of clans. 

There are better methods, than banning shielding up straight after attack. As CIM said you should NEVER EVER EVER pay ransom to bullies, that's basic common sense - if you pay once they will be always coming back for more easy rss. And the only thing they fear is to KOS by all kingdom clans. Again and again and again. This can take weeks, months, but it might wear them off.

And if that won't work there are drakkars in bank packs - sail away to other kingdom. 

Last, but not least - technically your idea is impossible to implement btw because of "if there is arranged peace among all clans" fraze - there's NEVER peace between ALL clans; there are players NOT in any clan actively playing; there's no authority one can declare kingdom peace to; every kingdom-wide peace is individual and informal agreement between players (ancient words: gentleman's agreement); and so on, and so on. 

Good luck with chasing them, but IMAO too many rules and regulations will kill off not only this game, but everything in real life.

Is it possible to starve him/them into submission?

 Without ransom payments  if they are not yielding  how do they get the resources to build?

Are they hyper farming , have big towns,   buying resources?

It costs bonuses to be constantly be porting around the kingdom, and dropping shields and re-shielding.

Are you all wanting to go to a tile and then leave the game?  A risky business especially with their behaviour.

If you only  send 1 March and watch for any attack  you should be able cancel before you get hit.

 If you only send a few troops you don't risk so much loss, though you wont yield as much. 

If it isn't cost effective to hit you it may help solve things.

Drastic , but everyone could stop playing so there's nothing to hit. 

Of course its possible you cannot beat him if he is so dogged to be a nuisance.

I don't see how tile hitting players during KvK(R) will help "get rid of the dead meat that prevents us to win KvK(R)" so your problem chief is wrong there.

Tile hitting during KvK is another matter. You were tile hit 11 times yesterday during KvK. If the enemy had hit those tiles you would give away more points than you would gain from successful yields. As I said before, yielding is only one part of the game. There are strategies to win without yielding. Sure, you won't win everything but then one never does.

What you call "bullying" is exactly what happens in the first month or two in every kingdom and many paying players are lost yet the game is not changed.

There's no good solution for this. If rouge clan is spending real money Plarium is not going to do anything. I'm aware, that rest of 520 is spending some money too, but to be rouge one requires deeper pockets. 

I like to farm rss tiles myself, ain't spending hundreds of pounds to buy packs and need materials same time, so permanent tile hitting is a real bummer. RSS tiles are part of the game, but Plarium is not going to do anything if bullies are spending real money, that's company's policy - 'Rip 'em off"

Except stopping paying ransome and KOS them there's no useful option. They are having fun obviously ruining game for others, getting kills and free rss, not breaking any rules. If you said war with them made no difference IMAO it's time to put sails on masts and go somewhere else. It's not the greatest option, meaning leaving ppl behind, risking rouges will follow or finding even worst ones.

xyz said:

Is it possible to starve him/them into submission?

 Without ransom payments  if they are not yielding  how do they get the resources to build?

Are they hyper farming , have big towns,   buying resources?

It costs bonuses to be constantly be porting around the kingdom, and dropping shields and re-shielding.

Are you all wanting to go to a tile and then leave the game?  A risky business especially with their behaviour.

If you only  send 1 March and watch for any attack  you should be able cancel before you get hit.

 If you only send a few troops you don't risk so much loss, though you wont yield as much. 

If it isn't cost effective to hit you it may help solve things.

Drastic , but everyone could stop playing so there's nothing to hit. 

Of course its possible you cannot beat him if he is so dogged to be a nuisance.

Well I guess they pay something minimal for minimal purposes, bcs it is small clan with 5-10 members who engage attacks and same amount who don't, where only leader is with1,5B influence and rest of them are from 50m-250m influence. I was wondering myself how do they survive being minimalistic and spending so much on tile hits (it can be costly per day session), maybe answer lies in fact they are not growing at all.

One of their users was innactive for 7 days. I thought that I was the only one who payed guard from that town to see time of losing shield, I didn't expect 5 different clans doing the same when we all surrounded him that night. Should put things into perspective how watched they are. Still, we can't make them stop. They don't act like normal people and don't have normal goals or feelings.

If someone told me that after 1 year (exactly how our kingdom is old now), we would still be playing like in the beginning, like we still need to learn processes and rules of the game, I would not engage myself so much into this and would look at it as totally opposite thing for what games are made - FUN. I wouldn't log in ever more and have 1 single moment of regret.

It would seem that you are presently in a no win scenario.

That only 5 towns behave like this would suggest that it might be only one person.

If its  5 or 1 player with hyperfarms, the ransom resources asked for wouldnt really be needed.

I would suggest if you havent already done so that you set up hyperfarming,and then if the need is still there,only yield from the special tiles with 1 march with minimal troops, that you watch and recall if you see an attack coming.

Навь said:

Я поддерживаю Yellow. Этот человек абсолютно неадекватен,и нет возможности сражаться в kvk,когда свои же режут. Плюс оскорбления в общем эфире,и тому подобное.

For those interested parties Google translate  says...

I support Yellow. This person is absolutely inadequate, and there is no opportunity to fight in kvk, when they cut their own. Plus insults in the general air, and the like.

War of CLANS  not War of KINGDOMS.  

Most of the Kingdom wants peace but not 1 individual or 1 clan? Too bad. Get together and take out that individual or that clan. Do not whine and cry and try to change the rules of the game to suit your needs. They are playing how they want to play the game. Again, This is War of CLANS and since there are no real ALLY controls-- where allies can actually help each other, that means 1 clan against all others. When and if Plarium ever adds in things where Allies can see that they are actually allies, and can see when allies are being attacked, and can communicate with each other easier, then perhaps at that time things can change.. But I digress. 

If you haven't guessed by now, I am one of those "bullies" who does not give my kingdom peace. Tiles have already gotten help from Plarium with the Domain guards-- what a joke, but as the saying goes about the Squeaky wheel...

Google transaltion of the above post.

HELLO.

plarium, I would like to have a menu in Turkish. Unfortunately we don't.

I think you can understand my comment.

I have been playing a lot of vikings in return for the service that one person offers you. Evaluates the bank offers.

We do not do them to provoke us as if someone who does not know himself is humiliated and despise.

The main objective of the game is "TAKE THE KEYIF" not available in our kingdom. Who is responsible for this is not the reason for any sanctions?

A passive kingdom of friends who have left the game

We want to see your sincerity in solving problems!