Hello, Plarium

I've seen you changed the infestion system payout.

I've infested 150 milion of resource value into the infestion system before the changes were done.

I've also tried 10 infestions after the reset, including a lvl 100 defense infestion.

because of the 150 milion banking i have done i expected an payout that should keep me going on lvl 100 infestions.

But this didn't happen.

I get a payout of 1104 interceptors and 220 fighter.

This is not enough to kill the next lvl 100.

every lvl 100 needs 2500 interceptor to destoy it.

this means i will never get back my army again.

after this payout i tried a lower one:

As you can see the payout is way less then i have invested.

No you need to tell me how to fix this???

Farmer Aliance N.L

Jean

REMOVE THE NEW SYSTEM AND BRING THE OLD ONE BACK PLEASE.

@Jean: It looks to me like the 150 million you had banked before the new system was implemented has been reset to .. well zero. So now you only get the small payout and the rest goes to your new bank ...

This new system really sucks. We want the old one back! No one did a complaint about the old one! Why the hell you guys change it?

The big payout was the only exciting part of the game. With this change you guys turn the game into another boring browser game. It's a sad day for this game community.

@ General T. Winters,

Like you said in an earlier post: 

Commanders, you win a small reward for each victory at the infested site. Still this is not the whole reward. The resources of your lost troops continue to be contributed to the Infest Bank. Once it is full, you receive a decent payout. This update is not made to lower your total rewards, its aim is to distribute them more balanced.

Now you need to tell me, how come, after banking 150 milion into the infestions, the level 100 defence infestion i sent in my first post, didn't give me the decent payout you promised?

I think i/we need a good explanation for that.

please remove this update. it ruins the game. leave it like it was please

Old way was bether bring it back.

EK Cowboy Jean said:

Hello, Plarium

I've seen you changed the infestion system payout.

I've infested 150 milion of resource value into the infestion system before the changes were done.

I've also tried 10 infestions after the reset, including a lvl 100 defense infestion.

because of the 150 milion banking i have done i expected an payout that should keep me going on lvl 100 infestions.

But this didn't happen.

I get a payout of 1104 interceptors and 220 fighter.

This is not enough to kill the next lvl 100.

every lvl 100 needs 2500 interceptor to destoy it.

this means i will never get back my army again.

after this payout i tried a lower one:

As you can see the payout is way less then i have invested.

No you need to tell me how to fix this???

Farmer Aliance N.L

Jean

From what I've seen the amount you had loaded before was not reset, but it is now impossible to pull everything you have invested in the infests out.  So for level 100s when you get to about 200 mil loaded you'll get normal payout (110-130 mil), then you'll have to load back up to 200 again to get another payout. 

This is what is happening even for people who were at 0 when the new system was implemented, they had to load in 200 mil from zero before they got a payout. 

Gen Winters,

 You've done it in the past and its time do do so again. You need to set up a pole and let us vote weather we keep this game breaking change or toss it. For those that don't know or remember after plenty of public out cry over allowing joint attacks on player sectors in addition to emitters and depots when it was first introduced. The ability for joint attacks on player sectors was voted out and removed in response to the wishes of the player base, and compared to this new change that was chump change.

So my fellow commanders its time for us to rally together and get as many people in the community as possible to come on board and do more then just read this post and get our infestations back they way we want em

We need to let them know we want the right to have a say in this change and drop it like a bad habit. Just like they did in the past.

Please reinstate the infest system

I just dropped $40 in the game.....refund please! Not what I payed for!

Biohazard,

you realy think you will get 20-40 milj bonus eacht time you reach 200 milion?

Winters is talking about the wiki.plarium.com/index.php?title=Infestation_Data i guess.

So it's still the same like he said., only with more "little" payouts between the big pays.

I think every little payout gives a certain loss, like before reset.

So i guess the banking system needs more and more troops to fill up your bank again because of the little payouts.

also if you do only lvl 100 infest, it will pay each time before it give a big payout.

I have no idea how much... we ned to figure that out.

My bank was filled, so that lvl 100 had to pay, it was my first infestion after reset.

EK Cowboy Jean said:

Biohazard,

you realy think you will get 20-40 milj bonus eacht time you reach 200 milion?

Winters is talking about the wiki.plarium.com/index.php?title=Infestation_Data i guess.

So it's still the same like he said., only with more "little" payouts between the big pays.

I think every little payout gives a certain loss, like before reset.

So i guess the banking system needs more and more troops to fill up your bank again because of the little payouts.

also if you do only lvl 100 infest, it will pay each time before it give a big payout.

I have no idea how much... we ned to figure that out.

 

Yeah the maximum payout value for each infest level is the same, but you now have to load more in to get a full payout, otherwise you just get the smaller payouts.  And you only get the full payout when you have about 50% more than that amount loaded, so you're left with a lot of res still in the bank.  This res can then be mostly extracted by killing off other yellow-barred infests, which will still give small payouts.  I'm going to do some more testing this afternoon to see if it's possible to make a profit by yellowbarring enough infests before your main payout then killing them off afterwards to pull the rest out of the bank with partial payouts, but so far it seems you fall slightly short of breaking even.  So yes, it seems that each small payout causes some loss. 

About new system:

Thing's i know till now.

- The bank is not reset

- Former system needed about 4 level 100 kills to get big reward again, new system needs about 10 level 100 kills (i tested on Red Zero and killed 8 level 100 infest just after each other and only get the smaller rewards. Need to build some units now to be able to kill next level 100)

- Banking works now about the same but you need to do a lot of more calculations: Won units - lost units + small win - lost units + small win - lost units + small win     - lost units etc. Till your bank is full and you get the bigger reward.

- you have to change your strategy on how to play infest to gain maximal rewards. I think i have thought out a way to do, but still testing it. Just killing level 100's after eachother like i did on Red is not the solution. It will result in losing all before you took enough level 100's for the next big pay-out.

- Why do we Moderators don't tell our personal opinion about new infest system? Simple, we not only represent our fellow players but we also represent Plarium. So in this case we have to act neutral.

EK Cowboy Jean said:

Hello, Plarium

I've seen you changed the infestion system payout.

I've infested 150 milion of resource value into the infestion system before the changes were done.

I've also tried 10 infestions after the reset, including a lvl 100 defense infestion.

because of the 150 milion banking i have done i expected an payout that should keep me going on lvl 100 infestions.

But this didn't happen.

I get a payout of 1104 interceptors and 220 fighter.

This is not enough to kill the next lvl 100.

every lvl 100 needs 2500 interceptor to destoy it.

this means i will never get back my army again.

after this payout i tried a lower one:

As you can see the payout is way less then i have invested.

No you need to tell me how to fix this???

Farmer Aliance N.L

Jean

Jean i have same problem as you , even if they put the old system back , its over because i finished my highest lvl and it did not pay ; how i suppose to rebuild to do the next high lvl ? 

they just sucked the game in a massive way and many people in my situation have nothing left . and cant procced anymore . you can never fix this collosal faill ..... 

abaddon-Panzer Division,

Its hard to say but if biohazard is right you need to build up, in my case 50 milion extra, to get the next lvl 100 payout.

after this payout you need to make another 70-90 milj extra to get the next 100 payout. and repeat and repeat.

this means you can keep infesting lvl 100 after you reach like 225 milion resources. 

And if someone figured out how it works, he/she needs to post it here.

This will make the game fun again, because then you will know where you need to go work on.

It's all guessing now...

So till then i should say, keep building and hope we will get a good explanation of the new system soon.

Please, return to the old system.