.... great ... the system nobody wants has been introduced. Great way to listen to your players. 

If I send units to an infest, I don't want them back, I want them dead. Silly "feature" to send troops back -_-.

Also small payouts are pointless, it only means the resources people already put in will never be payed out again, because you keep getting small payouts.

Great way to listen to your playerbase Plarium ... as usual

and again the game gets worse

Lol when will we learn they NEVER listen to us. Just look at the suggestion thread. It can be renamed "everything the players want that would improve the game, but we will never listen and implement it anyway, we just keep adding stuff they don't want" :P

Or in short "don't waste your breath we won't do it anyway" thread lol

Commanders, what's the panic?

The new system shows good results on the server where it was firstly introduced. Now Commanders have much more victories, i.e. gains from the infested sites.

As for units returning to the sector, as we have changed travel time to the infestations, you are able to send troops faster. This speeds up the process a lot.

The only thing left is to understand the new scheme and find another strategy. You can test the system by your own to compare your progress.

lol people quitting is "good results"? Getting a 400BC payout for a lvl 100 is a "good result"? Constantly using FAR units more then you send into the infests is a "good result"? lol yeah for your wallet maybe ... not for mine.

You guys KNEW the new system was hated by the people on Geo and made a lot of people quit. How on earth do you call any of that "good results".

My 40m banking is basically now GONE.

Instead I will constantly get terrible small payouts. Thanks for nothing -_-

Commander Rhylian, now you get less rewards in advance, but you get them more times. The amout of total reward rests almost the same, it is just distributed in several parts.

The Infest Banking was not reset to zero, you still have a chance to continue your progress. The calculations of the losses in battles against Morgana rest unchanged.

By "good results" I mean the statisics data and smooth progress, when a player doesn't need to wait for many months to rebuild an army and get a reward.

Again if a lvl 100 now pays out 400BC which is not enough to kill another lvl 100 how exactly does that mean I get back the same amount hmm?

Because that to me sounds like I lose 4.5m - 6m and get 880K back. Next infest I do will also trigger a small payout but again I lose more then I put in.

So yep my bank is GONE. 

So do tell me how we get that bank back hmm?

Because you fail to provide specifics on how.

And great we now get around 1/10th as payouts of what we have put in yay!! Yeah that will make people do more infests -_-

So yeah your data is beneficial for you only not for the players.

Which is why people have been quitting Geo! Good work! How about you start looking at those statistics for once every time you implement something.

@The Exiled Exactly what I said then .... no large payout only small useless payouts which at most amount to 1/10th of what you put in the rest DISAPPEARS.

Commanders, you win a small reward for each victory at the infested site. Still this is not the whole reward. The resources of your lost troops continue to be contributed to the Infest Bank. Once it is full, you receive a decent payout. This update is not made to lower your total rewards, its aim is to distribute them more balanced.

except the large bank will never be triggered lol. Next lvl 77 I kill will give me a 10% payout of what I put in (meaning 90% goes to the supposed bank) but I can guarantee that I will not get anything of the 40m I already put into it. I will post a screenshot when I kill it :P Wanna bet it's just some terrible small unit payout and no 40m in resources to units payout? :P Meaning I will have lost the 90% of the units I put in + what I already had banked lol

Oh come on! At least  increase the payouts. Because these payouts right here is so bad.

General T. Winters said:

Commanders, you win a small reward for each victory at the infested site. Still this is not the whole reward. The resources of your lost troops continue to be contributed to the Infest Bank. Once it is full, you receive a decent payout. This update is not made to lower your total rewards, its aim is to distribute them more balanced.

     i play on f/book  ad have had time to try the new system...on geo im  a high lev player in a top clan.....ad im tellig you,,NO ONE LIKES THIS SYSTEM ON F/BOOK,,,so dot try saying you have had good feed back....try keeping ya members happy,,and listen to them.

decay said:

General, i understand that this was a long planned upgrade, but you have some serious lag in your comunication system

first you make a long planned upgrade than after a few hour you make it public to your commanders making them to lose important fleet and motivation

please next time make an anouncement and after that make the upgrade

or we will consider you an infiltrated secret agent of Morgana

 

Commander, that's a sound idea, I'll think it over. 

THS Robotman said:

As per my understanding

Earlier think 5 infest for payout--- >

1st(100% bank) + 2nd(100% bank) ....  + 5th (100% bank)---   total payout 

 

New System will take 10 infest and not 5 but cont small payout

1st(40% bank-60% payout) +2nd( 60% bank-40% payout).... +10th (60% bank)--- Total Payout of all bank

I may be wrong in understanding. But it may help in long run.

That's the general idea, but the numbers seem to be off.  It's more like each one gives you a 10% payout, until you're about 50% overloaded for your second highest infest, then you get a 100% payout, but that extra 50% is still stuck in the bank.  At least that has been my experience so far with my own infests and from the people who send me their data.

But hey, you can keep building troops while at high negative credit production now just by raiding for credits, so we can all just build up huge trooper armies and not do infests XD 

PLEASE RETURN THE OLD INFEST SYSTEM.

REMOVE THE NEW SYSTEM AND BRING THE OLD ONE BACK PLEASE.

@Jean: It looks to me like the 150 million you had banked before the new system was implemented has been reset to .. well zero. So now you only get the small payout and the rest goes to your new bank ...

please remove this update. it ruins the game. leave it like it was please

EK Cowboy Jean said:

Hello, Plarium

I've seen you changed the infestion system payout.

I've infested 150 milion of resource value into the infestion system before the changes were done.

I've also tried 10 infestions after the reset, including a lvl 100 defense infestion.

because of the 150 milion banking i have done i expected an payout that should keep me going on lvl 100 infestions.

But this didn't happen.

I get a payout of 1104 interceptors and 220 fighter.

This is not enough to kill the next lvl 100.

every lvl 100 needs 2500 interceptor to destoy it.

this means i will never get back my army again.

after this payout i tried a lower one:

As you can see the payout is way less then i have invested.

No you need to tell me how to fix this???

Farmer Aliance N.L

Jean

From what I've seen the amount you had loaded before was not reset, but it is now impossible to pull everything you have invested in the infests out.  So for level 100s when you get to about 200 mil loaded you'll get normal payout (110-130 mil), then you'll have to load back up to 200 again to get another payout. 

This is what is happening even for people who were at 0 when the new system was implemented, they had to load in 200 mil from zero before they got a payout. 

EK Cowboy Jean said:

Biohazard,

you realy think you will get 20-40 milj bonus eacht time you reach 200 milion?

Winters is talking about the wiki.plarium.com/index.php?title=Infestation_Data i guess.

So it's still the same like he said., only with more "little" payouts between the big pays.

I think every little payout gives a certain loss, like before reset.

So i guess the banking system needs more and more troops to fill up your bank again because of the little payouts.

also if you do only lvl 100 infest, it will pay each time before it give a big payout.

I have no idea how much... we ned to figure that out.

 

Yeah the maximum payout value for each infest level is the same, but you now have to load more in to get a full payout, otherwise you just get the smaller payouts.  And you only get the full payout when you have about 50% more than that amount loaded, so you're left with a lot of res still in the bank.  This res can then be mostly extracted by killing off other yellow-barred infests, which will still give small payouts.  I'm going to do some more testing this afternoon to see if it's possible to make a profit by yellowbarring enough infests before your main payout then killing them off afterwards to pull the rest out of the bank with partial payouts, but so far it seems you fall slightly short of breaking even.  So yes, it seems that each small payout causes some loss.