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5 січ. 2018, 17:3805.01.18
04.09.16
288

Skulder said:


Payout received after i  lost troups at the previous level bank   after  the levels  you  guys wrote above ,,  you think you know it all  ..but not the case ... Dorieas and  Ioannis  you guys  are    far from breaking the algorithm of Xerxes :))) 

You make arbitrary conclusions.

Where i wrote that i know all or broke the algorithm of Xerxes ?


How get that big Payout ?

How often you play Positions ? 

6 січ. 2018, 08:5706.01.18
6 січ. 2018, 09:11(відредаговано)
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Daily i play positions  ..because i have missions   to do  ..but after payouts i'm going in general only  when are  positions or xp tournaments..i'm participating in all these kind of   tournaments  ...Always do almost the same thing ..lose troups at the begining to  full the bank ...for example i lost  all the  light troups till level 30 positions ... some heavy till  level 40 ... and  from there i go  in with phalanx and heavy till i'm getting my payout...and these i'm doing  since i'm playing for two years  ..didn't upgrade my oracle ..and all it's fine ... The  payouts are lesser for example  last two payout  then this was  430 agemas and 100  mounted was an level 54 positions from what i remember ...and 270 agemas and 60  mounted was  an   level 50 position (that was an bad day losing like  1 milions troups i think i wrote here also   about that time earlier) ..but the losses are also insignificants ..and  don't waste  time  doing them   wich it's an very important aspect for me also  :) ..

6 січ. 2018, 12:4706.01.18
9 січ. 2018, 08:02(відредаговано)
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Please do not spread nonsense about PP.

The whole system is structured like this:

Never play PP when big events happen at the same time.

It's all about resources, you have to destroy troops for a total of X to get a jackpot at some point.

The only winner is Plarium himself and nobody else.

Because the big players who invest a lot of money, a few days later revive their dead soldiers. Nobody will give that, because they always tell you what they have won, but never how many dead millions are in the sickbed.

Playing PP with light and heavy infantry is suicide.

Because they do not include enough resources in the system.

You will never go out with big wins at Deff and Off at the same time. You can trade Deff for Off or vice versa. There are days when you can play dozens of Off Posis and there will not be a jackpot because you have to play one or the other Deff Posi in between to get a jackpot.

Breaking down systems such as a few strokes and throwing away the position a few days later is completely wrong. If you say 10-15 high positions like this, you may have sacrificed too many troops and can not do anything a few days later, because you do not have enough off or deff to clean everything up.

Example:

I destroyed about 8 million off yesterday in the PP, and about 2 million deff. My jackpot was about 16,000 thoracitis.

The bottom line is that I lost, because next time I have to look, with the 16,000 Thorkitis many Deff Posis to play, to regain my off again. Or if I'm lucky enough to get an Off Jackpot + Deff.

And never forget Plaruim adjusts each week to the winnings, how many Posis you have to play to get maybe a good jackpot. Sometimes you get him at a 5 Posis, sometimes at a 7-9, sometimes you can play 15x150 + and get nothing. Funnily enough, if you can not get any higher and have to go lower, the jackpot comes, but that's Harakiri.Many, many, many players have already died through PP.


PP from level 100 upwards should generally only be played with at least 50 million off and 50 million deff (calculated only the phallanx and rider)All these contracts have to !!! minimum 28+.

6 січ. 2018, 18:3406.01.18
6 січ. 2018, 18:37(відредаговано)
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mate on higher level  of oracle off course  i think it's doesn't work   what i'm doing  , because from what i get  the higher are the   payouts  but also   the interests  ..because of trhat it's   doesn't worth to upgrade youre oracle  ..Me wrote  what it's working for  me  as response to  Ioannis  , of course i also have losses  but   not   ton of milions ... if  i draw the line after i get the payout from tournaments  sometimes i breakeven ..sometime nop  .. rarely on plus    ..but  as bonus i get horses  or imperials  from rewards in exchange  my others  troups 
6 січ. 2018, 19:1206.01.18
6 січ. 2018, 19:13(відредаговано)
04.09.16
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Skulder => What is your Highest Position Level and Payout ?
7 січ. 2018, 09:0507.01.18
11.06.16
20

hello I am one of the followers of this post .. I try to learn from those who comment on new theories etc.

It is clear that the game is designed to make money the company that created it. but I doubt that this pp system will be interesting in the short term. because if you press the players a lot (and these lose all their troops in a system that even a miser OFFICIAL TUTORIAL guides you) you end up thinking that I spend my money here if with 60 euros I bought a mega game of a strem platform. etc ....

I used to presume to know how pp worked .. now I presume to be an idiot ... that the troops are left in a system that I do not understand. and that if it's not with $$ IT WILL NOT GIVE YOU ANYTHING ....

I put some captures of when I was good ... hahaha and now I am one of those who every day is more clear that you have to find another game.

7 січ. 2018, 17:3107.01.18
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IOANNIS TSIAMANTANIS said:


Skulder => What is your Highest Position Level and Payout ?

mate level 61 and in regards payouts    650 agema and 100 mounted  from what i remember .. but had a  lot of crapy payouts also 
8 січ. 2018, 17:2508.01.18
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Always the same answer ...nothing change... they think that we are stupid
9 січ. 2018, 15:1109.01.18
9 січ. 2018, 15:12(відредаговано)
01.03.15
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so you insist that nothing has changed...so can you go into my account  and check my pp the last 15 days and explain to me how is possible  to 10+ payments in a row to keep me 30-40mil rsc in every payment ...just played 2 rounds again the same...i ask someone to contact with me and i got no reply....i will write every day until someone to contact with me privately....
10 січ. 2018, 09:2310.01.18
10 січ. 2018, 09:24(відредаговано)
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chriskou said:


stop  playing i loose all of my army they need only money...its always the players fault

It's true that plarium encourages you to buy, but he doesn't require you to do it.

The PP have always been accessible to all and will be forever because anyone can win the maximum gain. 

11 січ. 2018, 13:3011.01.18
11 січ. 2018, 13:34(відредаговано)
01.03.15
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ahahahah i will keep playing until i zero this account  ..i am playing since 2015  i am down 60m off  and i am playing only offence and they keep telling everything is alright.... .keep playing and let them  keep stealing you !!
11 січ. 2018, 20:2111.01.18
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They screwed game more this time,pathetic rewards at all tournaments now total steal with  pps
12 січ. 2018, 09:0812.01.18
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I am afraid my response is still the same - if old strategies and tricks do not work, you may need to re-evaluate them. The same strategy is not going to give you a positive result all the time.
13 січ. 2018, 12:1213.01.18
13 січ. 2018, 12:14(відредаговано)
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Drag-Theseus said:


Skulder, please hide your coords next time.. It's just 'cause of precaution :)


my ex teammate lost 140mil on PP (he is ex cause he left game now).. so I don't play PP much, and I suggest you all tostay away from them if you are not PP expert and good in math 

mate       not afraid of nobody ..who wants to get some towers and an temple down    can come .. have nothing to hide  ..it's an game ,    i'm  waiting all the visits in Sparta ..anyhow my city it's crow city almost all the time :)) 

13 січ. 2018, 22:1413.01.18
13 січ. 2018, 22:27(відредаговано)
04.09.16
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From 29/10/2017 to 12/01/2017 the first is 1,5 month old  and the last two is  in the past four days not 4 months Skulder and these are almost half of this period.

Tonaya first post about this Bank System and I made some tests on my own and realized that it helps me to get more Payouts than before with lesser risk.

The only Jokes Here is the Jokes Payouts you post.




14 січ. 2018, 11:2514.01.18
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Payouts are totaly a joke with their new change of the algorithm but every day their loosing players and coins they think that we are idiots 
18 січ. 2018, 00:1318.01.18
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The last moderator is right.   Hahaha  cant believe I said  this.     But it is true.   if you are not doing the math on pp  you will always lose more troops  than needed, or get short changed on your payout.  The only trick is having enough boost to only play with lights and heavies.     94% +  all positions  are set to be attacked with these troops.    Sending 2000 promos to a position that only takes 126 spartan hoplites to beat is also points less.      If you are not playing them right don’t play them    or at least don’t complain about them.  Besides   how much money  do you really think it takes to buy back  50 mil off and 60 mil def.      plarium  doesn’t want that much of your money  only some it.             All pp wants from you  is 500k  in lights  and about 400k in heavies.  When you have pp army this big you will be able to play for a long time  and walk away with huge army of about 100 mil def and 80-60 mil off.   : )

18 січ. 2018, 00:3618.01.18
18 січ. 2018, 00:38(відредаговано)
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I will post this  once more   for you  to look at.  this is offense positions from 180-190.     on my calculator there are four colors to indicate force needed to  win each position      yellow -  for the least amount of force  orange for the second amount of force needed,  red for the third strongest force needed   and the darkest red  for the strongest force needed to win.    if you  only attack  by the least amount of force  possible you will get payout.       

https://gyazo.com/5a428c1cd60502eddfcd89301129da8b

level 190     5.4 mil heavies.

https://gyazo.com/c26a9e863348f4ac641a3f460708ec7e

188  5.2 mil heavies

https://gyazo.com/af590b9169ae0ff08eb5f778f083c0c9

186.    5.6 mil heavies

https://gyazo.com/af9fd78a4ea8c0242378613dc13ac17c

183.   5.1 mil phalanx

https://gyazo.com/b861f9b1ce9e57ef9597c317fdf14297

182.  5 ,1mil phalanx,   but I would still hit with 5.3 mil lights  and save my phalanx

https://gyazo.com/fdb4d37d5eeb3079cae84970358fe162

181.   4.8   lights or heavies. 



to knockdown these positions  you need 26-27mil in lights and heavies   and 5.1 mil   in phalanx.     if you use anything other than that   you will not get a payout.      or  your payout will be smaller than it should for what you put into it.



20 січ. 2018, 16:4920.01.18
20 січ. 2018, 18:21(відредаговано)
04.09.16
288

PMC said:


Hi IOANNES,  well if you use phalanx and cav  you can up the total power  that you would lose to beat these positions.   if you are trying to grow army you don't want to lose power to gain less power.  Besides why would you use phlanx and cav  they are for cap  and pvp. pp is really only a troop converter  with a little add bonus  sometimes but not always.  But every day you can take 20-30 mil power in lights and heavies  and make 20-44 mil in cav and/or phlanx.   and yes  the time is the problem   but these are level 180-190.   you can easily play between levels 1-100  with lights and heavies  at least monthly.   And slowly grow at an even rate.   You can play with phalanx and cav but this is more or less for points, and complete loss. You might as well go play pvp for those.  Only if you are very lucky will you be able to cycle 20 mil in phalanx into a 20 mil reward. Most of the time you will end with nothing.    Or feeling like you were short changed in payout.  


Hi PMC, From All offence units only S.Pikeman & G.S.Warrior are profitable in strength, you gain more strength than you lose, when exchange them at PP.

Example :

When you exchange Swordsmen with Sarissophoros the total strength of them is 31% less than total strength of Swordsmen you use. So every time you use light & Heavy except S.Pikeman & G.S.Warrior you lose 10% to 48% in strength.