can you check mine too???because from december 2017 that i lost 120 million off and 50 million def for 19940 proms and till today no payment no bank no nothingCould you please specify your in-game id that can be found at the bottom of the Guide page and specify server# you are on?
uid 5095109 / fb741351742552671 / The Glorious Valley / segment00
chriskou said:
any info?
Hi! I'm sorry for the delayed reply. I've checked your account and looks like you need to put more affords to receive the next reward. At the moment, I would suggest that you focus on building the troops that you would not feel sorry about losing later on Positions. Enjoy the game!
Persians will take longer to payout because troop strengths have dramatically increased with many added bonuses. For example, it takes me over 25 positions for payouts because my agema are now over 7k in strength as opposed to less than 5k two years ago.
chriskou said:
How long????this mess is about 2years now from december 2017 do you believe that 2 years is not enough?many people have this problem and many quit...im glad to find your post
It's not a matter of time, it's about a tactic that you stick to. The higher level of the Persian Position you hit, the harder the challenges you face. This is why it is important to select the appropriate tactics for hitting Persian Position.
I suggest that you check other players' posts who shared the tips that help them to play Persian Positions efficiently.
2 years and 10 months and nothing in return i guess nothing changedI'm sorry to hear that you haven't received the reward yet.
I suggest using other tactics when playing PP. 
Hello Spartans! Persian positions is one of the characteristics of the game that can be more engaging and also more frustrating. Big rewards really do make substantial differences, as you well know, and losses leave holes that ... well, they hurt. It has always been like this. The community managers reports if there have been any changes to the game. Alyona already said there have been no changes. Why would she lie? If there had been changes she can simply report: There have been changes by a decision of the developers ... the algorithms of the game have never been revealed to us so it would be the same for us players.
On the other hand, perhaps the more advanced levels need another numerical adjustment than we are used to ... Personally, as a player, I am quite conservative with the Persians because I have already lost everything a couple of times. I do the 1 bar method... and for me it is ok.
Tell a little about how the payments have gone this weekend and if you can provide pics for all of us to see, the better. Thank you all for being and sharing your impressions of the game!
3years today that ive lost my army and nothing back,you reset my bank?i dont believe any more that my units excist in the bank can you check what i lost at december 2017 or not?i have 3 other cities and i have no problem at pps look at my payments from my other cities before you going to say about tactics or whatever ...http://prntscr.com/w67no6 http://prntscr.com/w67o37 and a double http://prntscr.com/w67oog http://prntscr.com/w67oy8
the broken city id is
uid 5095109 / fb741351742552671 / The Glorious Valley / segment00
Here is how it worked for me at one day;
I did PP positions from level 110 till 130 only using offensive positions. Before doing it, I filled my resource storage to the max. By hitting these positions, I did lose some serious amount of units, some positions had very low amount of losses while others were huge. Still I would get some ''decent'' payout from each position so it was basically pushing me to go more and more. At 130, the positions didn't go more they stopped. I was at debt yeah... what to do ? I picked position 112 with defensive troops this time and I got 13k mounted peltast and 2k phalax offensive.
Now was that worth it? Well considering that I converted all phalax units to cavarly, I'd say it's kinda worth it. I am still in debt of units number not calculating the actual def/off points. But I was satisfied to see my 3-4k def units get converted to horses. My offense on the other hand suffered a lot but I'm a defensive player mostly...
Then several days after that, I tried the tactic again but this time nope it doesn't work. Tried on all accounts but nothing. Always in debt and getting small units even tho my storage is full. I found it very suspicious. Then at one position I lost my units and failed to raid PP position. One bar from four was left at position strenght so I thought, let's try it with the forces I have left... Then bum, I get around 6k phalax payout at that exact same positions where Persians were weakened. So total 4k units profit which is meh. This was level 82 position tho.
Next days I tried on my different account the same thing. No profit from direct wins. So I tried this method from the above, lose around 2k phalax def units to position 82+ and leave it at 1 mark strenght. After I finished the position with what's left of it, I got 6k horses payload.
As you can see PP positions are very confusing and I cannot know exactly why it worked this way and why it even works in general like this. You seem to get bigger payloads if position was left at 1 strenght rather than finishing it on the first try...
Here is how it worked for me at one day;
I did PP positions from level 110 till 130 only using offensive positions. Before doing it, I filled my resource storage to the max. By hitting these positions, I did lose some serious amount of units, some positions had very low amount of losses while others were huge. Still I would get some ''decent'' payout from each position so it was basically pushing me to go more and more. At 130, the positions didn't go more they stopped. I was at debt yeah... what to do ? I picked position 112 with defensive troops this time and I got 13k mounted peltast and 2k phalax offensive.
Now was that worth it? Well considering that I converted all phalax units to cavarly, I'd say it's kinda worth it. I am still in debt of units number not calculating the actual def/off points. But I was satisfied to see my 3-4k def units get converted to horses. My offense on the other hand suffered a lot but I'm a defensive player mostly...
Then several days after that, I tried the tactic again but this time nope it doesn't work. Tried on all accounts but nothing. Always in debt and getting small units even tho my storage is full. I found it very suspicious. Then at one position I lost my units and failed to raid PP position. One bar from four was left at position strenght so I thought, let's try it with the forces I have left... Then bum, I get around 6k phalax payout at that exact same positions where Persians were weakened. So total 4k units profit which is meh. This was level 82 position tho.
Next days I tried on my different account the same thing. No profit from direct wins. So I tried this method from the above, lose around 2k phalax def units to position 82+ and leave it at 1 mark strenght. After I finished the position with what's left of it, I got 6k horses payload.
As you can see PP positions are very confusing and I cannot know exactly why it worked this way and why it even works in general like this. You seem to get bigger payloads if position was left at 1 strenght rather than finishing it on the first try...
if i have lost 13mps or 6k phalax i wouldnt make a post my losses was 12+ times more of these you said
22 days and no answer
22 days and no answer
You have had several answers:
"I've checked your account and looks like you need to put more affords to receive the next reward. At the moment, I would suggest that you focus on building the troops that you would not feel sorry about losing later on Positions."
"I looked over your account, and it seems you need to put more resources in to recieve the next award level"
"After checking your account, it looks like you need to put in more to attain the next level award"
Ad nauseum, Ad nauseum, Ad nausuem!
Watch the old movie called "War Games" where the computer wants to play a game of 'Thermonuclear War" and plays and computes all the possible scenarios...The computer thens goes dark, then comes back on and says "Interesting game but the only way to win is to........(Unable to print computer's last response here due to fear of retaliation and/or ban)
Raid, Build troops, help other players against bullies, enjoy your coalition chat with your fellow brothers/sisters.
You have had several answers:
"I've checked your account and looks like you need to put more affords to receive the next reward. At the moment, I would suggest that you focus on building the troops that you would not feel sorry about losing later on Positions."
"I looked over your account, and it seems you need to put more resources in to recieve the next award level"
"After checking your account, it looks like you need to put in more to attain the next level award"
Ad nauseum, Ad nauseum, Ad nausuem!
Watch the old movie called "War Games" where the computer wants to play a game of 'Thermonuclear War" and plays and computes all the possible scenarios...The computer thens goes dark, then comes back on and says "Interesting game but the only way to win is to........(Unable to print computer's last response here due to fear of retaliation and/or ban)
Raid, Build troops, help other players against bullies, enjoy your coalition chat with your fellow brothers/sisters.
i did all these 3 years now ,i stop to upgrade units with relics over a year maybe that was a problem but its all clear now these units are erased from my bank when you are a dedicated player and you being robbed then its not fun anymore
Hello Spartans! Persian positions is one of the characteristics of the game that can be more engaging and also more frustrating. Big rewards really do make substantial differences, as you well know, and losses leave holes that ... well, they hurt. It has always been like this. The community managers reports if there have been any changes to the game. Alyona already said there have been no changes. Why would she lie? If there had been changes she can simply report: There have been changes by a decision of the developers ... the algorithms of the game have never been revealed to us so it would be the same for us players.
On the other hand, perhaps the more advanced levels need another numerical adjustment than we are used to ... Personally, as a player, I am quite conservative with the Persians because I have already lost everything a couple of times. I do the 1 bar method... and for me it is ok.
Tell a little about how the payments have gone this weekend and if you can provide pics for all of us to see, the better. Thank you all for being and sharing your impressions of the game!
Wow !!!! The community manager reports if there have been changes ??????????
I can not believe you said this.
What about the changes to guardian gem rewards that were cut by 75% and no mention of this change was posted to us, we had to discover this ourselves.
The changes to the target numbers of collectables in Guardian Duel events that were increased by a thousand with no warning or notice.
The changes to the combat mechanics 2 years ago that no one posted about and we again had to figure out ourselves?
The forced migration of players to the failed test servers, when some but not all players were messed over?
I can go on and on. There was no warning, and no notice to the players until we challanged these changes and informed the game community on our own.
Moderators please STOP with the constant lies you are trying to feed us. It is muchmore than just annoying, it destroys your credibility with us, and proves that staff here can not be trusted.
d3vnul said:
Brilliant Post!Why do you keep showing us FB crap pictures since it's a totally different server , you only make us throw more dirt at plarium because even after all this extensive period of time you were not capable of introducing the same game mechanics to all servers (UnitXP especially !). Will it take another 500mil $ and years to develop/implement ? Come on ... A company that sells for hundreds of millions of dollars can't implement a simple feature like this in months ? This feature was announced on the forums at 26 April, 2017, 8:26 AM UTC
And yes the payout were affected/changed , so did the game engine code. Invested 40mil off , 20mil def , payout about 30mil off , lost about 30mil , thank you so much. Maybe they work as always intended , like a real casino , they change the payout % when they want , so we could find days when maybe they have a 5-10% payout or days when there's a higher payout % , guess that's only internal info which can be passed to their closed loop circle of 'players'.
No matter how many questions or evidence anyone will post on the forums , the mods/manager's only job is to keep players 'happy/blind'. It's also quite possible that they are also kept in the shadow about real game changes/mechanics.
As plarium was purchased by a gambling corporation , i guess now they are legally allowed to operate gambling in the game (persians!).
My opinion is that the gambling taking place on Persians was illegal before the selling to the new gambling corporation as you were not in a gambling business before the sale took place.
Hey! You are unfair with us mods! We are players too.
Do you say PP is broken? that you are not seeing payouts?
Well, it's not broken to me. If I invest big, I cash big. Worked like that since I start playing them regularly. Still... It always ends into a slight loss, so I try not to get very fond of them or I would end on zero to push too hard.
Since I don´t coin-back looses and I´m definitely not a PP expert, I prefer to grow with partial payouts instead of pushing for bigs rewards.
I didn't see major changes myself... but If you are not getting the results you want... How can you handle this circumstance? Well, time for a new strategy, if the one you were using is not suitable anymore.
Have a nice game!
