RIX said:

Thank you Roy. I am glad to see a big persian player come on here and help spread the word.  Yes we are not getting back our net loss after 4-5 days of playing.  And yes, payouts are not matching the levels at all.  The PP are broken on this server!

Totally agree. I had better rewards on lvl 120-130 than on higher levels. Last "big" payout after investing about 60mil power of units (off/def) (not resources) :

if the game system is different between facebook and the one that is played outside of it .. is to compare tomatoes with baseballs ... you have to be more serious and at least not respond like headless hen ... many players play Both of them know that they are different.

I add to the answer given by d3vnul and I applaud its clarity.

I almost  agree with  what roy mah  said. 

the  rewards  are capped   so   why would you play all positions  unless you are playing for points?        if you  want a payout  that is worth having    pick a range   lets say 175-180      then only  play those  positions   and nothing  else  until  you  get payout.

I don't calculate  resources  as  I play   you can calculate  it  better  by power  used   and power  given  back.       so lets say you want  the 28k mounted pelts  on level 180. that  for me it is close to 40 mil in strength.     if I am going for this  reward    then I know  I will need to knock out  at least 10-15 positions  in this range.         but  instead of resources   I  attack  like this

https://gyazo.com/a3f964c6acbb8e4cf1ca8b847870ce2d

https://gyazo.com/e96362ba56d81941c1255a6c6ca7b67b

https://gyazo.com/e135dcfe144df67f9d0ff1733a2cc995

https://gyazo.com/ad21df2b4cc20344d28823168d022186

these are offensive positions,    but you can see that  even at the level 179   it cost less than 5 mil phalanx power  to knock out the position.

if you conserve  you troops down to the last man  then you will be able to knock out more positions. 

so  if you have 20 mil def and 20 mil off   then you can easily turn your reward into a big split pay.    use your troops where  they are best only attack when you are ready to knock out 10-20 positions   that you can scout.      hopefully   no farther apart than 10 levels.         this  will give you big reward.

and nothing  is  wrong  with pp    except  they  don't give you what  you have put into them.  other wise  my rewards  would  be  in the 100k+  cav units

and  the banks,   if that is what it is called,  are  now stretched to what it was when there  was only 140 levels.      but  the  payouts   are tiny  compared to then.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

rome said:

to alyona - are you kidding me.???  you say it does not change Really.??? funny to hear. it has changed over the past few months

As I said - no changes were made over the past few month. The last change was more than a year ago! And it wasn't related to rewards. 

I guess nobody wants me to check their PPs as I don't see the info I asked for in my previous post. 

The fact that your strategies work differently on higher PP levels should not surprise you, since higher PP levels are stronger, possible rewards are bigger, and you may need some time to adjust.

yea   you can check my pp records.       you can even post them on here.    I play every day,    and yall rob me once a week.    for the last year.         a year  ago I played every position in my oracle   then bought a refresh  played all of those.      that  was  50 mil def and 70 mil off.       pp   gave me no rewards  over  100 units.   and since then  my  game has been  jacked.     I mean  yea  I can play pp    but  what is the point  if 95% of all my rewards  come in 10k  packages.     not to mention   I have  put  many  extra  1000's of cav and phalanx    and  heavies and lights    to try to get something  and still   10k rewards.      that is real funny.    take  a look since you are  offering.   my vip's   say they always  look   and  their answer is a lot  like  your answers    so please don't tell me that I have to knock down a few more positions.       seriously  I have made it the top 20    playing with 10k rewards.       if I got  what was owed  I wouldn't be playing them anymore.

  maybe  I should  create  a new post  and start putting screen shots  of all my pp  records.   what do you think?  then  maybe  you can explain things better  as I post them?   let  me know

yea   you can check my pp records.       you can even post them on here.    I play every day,    and yall rob me once a week.    for the last year.         a year  ago I played every position in my oracle   then bought a refresh  played all of those.      that  was  50 mil def and 70 mil off.       pp   gave me no rewards  over  100 units.   and since then  my  game has been  jacked.     I mean  yea  I can play pp    but  what is the point  if 95% of all my rewards  come in 10k  packages.     not to mention   I have  put  many  extra  1000's of cav and phalanx    and  heavies and lights    to try to get something  and still   10k rewards.      that is real funny.    take  a look since you are  offering.   my vip's   say they always  look   and  their answer is a lot  like  your answers    so please don't tell me that I have to knock down a few more positions.       seriously  I have made it the top 20    playing with 10k rewards.       if I got  what was owed  I wouldn't be playing them anymore.

  maybe  I should  create  a new post  and start putting screen shots  of all my pp  records.   what do you think?  then  maybe  you can explain things better  as I post them?   let  me know

to alyona again - I think it really changed. I'm sure.. I play every day on PP and never stop.. and I know how the PP works every day. you can not blind me... I know I know I know.. as long ago I got every day the payout was very good... but now I really feel. example when I get a payout. maybe tomorrow I did not get anything and it seems to be 3-4 days to get back

I forget what month it CHANGED

please stop saying it does not change and strategy, please stop, I can not hear. I know how it's every day about a few months ago

I just get a feeling with xerxes o

sorry yaa my english is not good. hope understand

I still know know know arrgghh and still not blind lol... alyona how if yourself play in PP.?????????????????????????????????????

I am sure you will feel the same with anyone

sorry alyona, i am really hurt

tsunwu85rsa said:

Why do you keep throwing your armies against the persians when you know there is an element of gambling involved?

That's not true. It was always a guaranteed event if you calculated correctly.  That changed coming on about 3-4 weeks now and it seems like that is the case now.

my pp are off :D please check

https://gyazo.com/8c12eb08df2ed465861bfb351e5b4c21

i put 380 promachos

200 myrmidions

800 swords

and bunch of defence in def positions

this is the payout i get

my res were full so pp doesnt pay me back in rss

followed all rules of pps

and this pennies is my payout

what is wrong with these positions

i just lost my def force in complete and alot of off force!!!!!

not playing positions ever again

nonsense

tsunwu85rsa said:

Why do you keep throwing your armies against the persians when you know there is an element of gambling involved?

That's not true. It was always a guaranteed event if you calculated correctly.  That changed coming on about 3-4 weeks now and it seems like that is the case now.

PP were very beneficial and then you could revive 1000 or 10,000 agema on the 75% off.  

tsunwu85rsa said:

Why do you keep throwing your armies against the persians when you know there is an element of gambling involved?

it  is  so much fun  I guess.

but if you can help me out with something  I would love to hear your advise!     I can easily turn out 20-30 mil rewards. weekly if not daily.   sometimes  40 mil rewards in power  usually every two weeks.  but I have yet to see  but one or two payouts over 50 mil.       can you tell me   if you are doing better  than this?   and if so  how  do you get guaranteed big pays? 

VodkaRedBull said:

VodkaRedBull said:

my pp are off :D please check