VodkaRedBull said:

i did get payouts but first i had to lose approx 90 million to then get a few smaller payout and in the end my lose is 25 million + 

I am getting the same. Small payouts no where equal to my loss.

Rix...I don't normally give away secrets for free, but you seem like a nice guy so I'm going to give you the secret to winning big against Persians. It's a 5 step method so get a pen and paper and write this down....it will change your Sparta experience and maybe even change the dynamics of Sparta as a whole.

Step 1: Calculate your total strength of both your offense and defense

Step 2: Insert your entire army, both offense and defense, into the persian bank. Yes!! Until nothing is left.

Step 3: Go to the nearest grocery store and buy rice, peanut butter, one of those big jugs of distilled water (this will be your meals for the next month...add some bananas if you have kids), and a bottle of vodka.

Step 4: Drink the bottle of vodka (such an important step) until your actually dumb enough to spend real money on this game

Step 5: Go to the revive tab and revive the 50 million that you lost....clear a position 140 or higher and BOOM!!!! 10 million payout! After a couple months you'll be a beast the likes the hellas have never seen!

There ya go bud! Clear instructions on how to dominate this game. Hope it helps. Look me up in game if you have any questions!

Hi All! 

Persians have not been working correctly ever since the last Great Position Takeover tourney

There haven't been any calculated payouts and I personally am over 300% past my repayment with no payout.

I have spoken to others that are 50-70 million in troop loss and way way beyond their payout mark.

Anyone else having issues?

hey everyone

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

RIX said:

Hi All! 

Persians have not been working correctly ever since the last Great Position Takeover tourney

There haven't been any calculated payouts and I personally am over 300% past my repayment with no payout.

I have spoken to others that are 50-70 million in troop loss and way way beyond their payout mark.

Anyone else having issues?

No changes were made to PPs. If you think that something went wrong, I could check your PP logs for you to make sure that everything goes well. I'll just need some dates of your last figths that you consider broken:)

We are telling you nicely, it's broken. Ever since you added the last 5 levels or the last great position takeover (cannot recall which), it's not working properly.  I wish more voices would come on here and let you know.  I am but one man and I make the appearance that it is specifically me with the issue but it is game wide.

Canis Lupus said:

Rix...I don't normally give away secrets for free, but you seem like a nice guy so I'm going to give you the secret to winning big against Persians. It's a 5 step method so get a pen and paper and write this down....it will change your Sparta experience and maybe even change the dynamics of Sparta as a whole.

Step 1: Calculate your total strength of both your offense and defense

Step 2: Insert your entire army, both offense and defense, into the persian bank. Yes!! Until nothing is left.

Step 3: Go to the nearest grocery store and buy rice, peanut butter, one of those big jugs of distilled water (this will be your meals for the next month...add some bananas if you have kids), and a bottle of vodka.

Step 4: Drink the bottle of vodka (such an important step) until your actually dumb enough to spend real money on this game

Step 5: Go to the revive tab and revive the 50 million that you lost....clear a position 140 or higher and BOOM!!!! 10 million payout! After a couple months you'll be a beast the likes the hellas have never seen!

There ya go bud! Clear instructions on how to dominate this game. Hope it helps. Look me up in game if you have any questions!

With my most sincere apologies Canis-You are incorrect. Here's an updated guide on how to dominate this game:

1.) Calculate time on game (hours spent playing)

2.) Calculate a specific unit (Agema for example) So, 200,000 Agemas X 3 hours= 68.4931507 years

3.) Raid until your resources are full to 100% capacity

4.) Build Agemas-Nothing else.

5.) Repeat as long as you are able to maintain a balance. Make sure you are able to get internet access in the retirement home to maintain your builds well into old age.

6.) WARNING: Consuming alcohol may induce credit card "discombobulation"-removing credit card from wallet will induce and disturb the game balance.

Note: Your "payout" may vary and will be dependent on your scroll level as well as the longevity of the time needed to build 200,000 Agema's

Factor in real life (wife, kids, car, job etc..) There is a "game balance" that  exists and it can't be changed.

Note: From time to time you will get discounts on fortifications, sketches and EVEN a 40% discount on troops. This may cut down on the 68 year build time figure as stated above.

Good Luck & Happy Hunting

to alyona - are you kidding me.???  you say it does not change Really.??? funny to hear. it has changed over the past few months

yes, there is a problem with pp payout past weeks. its very obvious and not the usual íts an unlucky day where you lose 15-20% of what you lose and get it back another day. its a consistent bleeding of your units everytime you engage pp. since its common knowledge that you will eventually recover your lost units, the player will hit the oracle more regularly. and then one day, 'BAM !' you will lose a big chunk.

one example : your average deposit is 200 mill so you deposit that number everyday you hit the pp. oracle pays you back 170-190 mill worth of units. thats fine, because its not a big loss. but then, you go to and fro 4-5 days and eventually you lose 50-60 mill resources worth of units. this is how they bleed you. but one day, when you deposit enough resources, it gives you a smallish reward worth 120-130 mill resources worth of units. you decide to throw them all in + interest and clear a high position (lvl 170+) at the end to get a really big reward to make up for the initial deposit of 200 mill. but this time, instead of giving you a large reward like what aloyna posted from the facebook server (230-240 mill worth of reward), it gives you a 160 mill resources worth of reward. so, your net loss is almost 80 mill. the smart thing to do of course is to wait for a few days, break down all the general items, regain your composure and start all over again. but even then, you dont catch a break. you start right from where you stopped : throwing in 200 mill and getting back 170-180 mill worth of units. 

the most suspicious part of this 'glitch' is that rewards from a position is nowhere near its max cap. level 150-170 positions consistently giving rewards equivalent to a lvl 120-130. not once, but almost all the time. positions should give rewards equivalent to its max cap (not always but regularly enough) after you have deposited sufficient units. thats how its supposed to work. 

this glitch has been happening consistently for the past month. its not normal. its either the system is broken, or plarium changed the system somehow. im sure we remember a while ago when we encountered the same situation. plarium re-assured us nothing has changed, its not broken etc ... but after a while, they admitted that it was broken, and then another incident when they told us they changed the system. sending tickets to the support team will get you non-committal replies; vague and ambiguous statements that neither deny nor agree with your complaints

so now, the player has 2 options : stop playing pp altogether and write off the losses, or wait for revival discount to recoup some of the losses.

we know they have been giving revival discounts more regularly now. that cannot be coincidental. for players to spend money on reviving, they must first lose units. what we need to know is the truth : has the system changed ? or is there a problem with the payout system. you know we know theres something wrong, so the last thing we want to hear and read is how certain players get a huge reward. we get those rewards too. but then how much have we lost to get that reward ? getting that huge reward doesn't mean there's no problem with the system. it just means its not totally broken. but it doesnt mean its running smoothly

RIX said:

Thank you Roy. I am glad to see a big persian player come on here and help spread the word.  Yes we are not getting back our net loss after 4-5 days of playing.  And yes, payouts are not matching the levels at all.  The PP are broken on this server!

Totally agree. I had better rewards on lvl 120-130 than on higher levels. Last "big" payout after investing about 60mil power of units (off/def) (not resources) :

if the game system is different between facebook and the one that is played outside of it .. is to compare tomatoes with baseballs ... you have to be more serious and at least not respond like headless hen ... many players play Both of them know that they are different.

I add to the answer given by d3vnul and I applaud its clarity.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

rome said:

to alyona - are you kidding me.???  you say it does not change Really.??? funny to hear. it has changed over the past few months

As I said - no changes were made over the past few month. The last change was more than a year ago! And it wasn't related to rewards. 

I guess nobody wants me to check their PPs as I don't see the info I asked for in my previous post. 

The fact that your strategies work differently on higher PP levels should not surprise you, since higher PP levels are stronger, possible rewards are bigger, and you may need some time to adjust.

yea   you can check my pp records.       you can even post them on here.    I play every day,    and yall rob me once a week.    for the last year.         a year  ago I played every position in my oracle   then bought a refresh  played all of those.      that  was  50 mil def and 70 mil off.       pp   gave me no rewards  over  100 units.   and since then  my  game has been  jacked.     I mean  yea  I can play pp    but  what is the point  if 95% of all my rewards  come in 10k  packages.     not to mention   I have  put  many  extra  1000's of cav and phalanx    and  heavies and lights    to try to get something  and still   10k rewards.      that is real funny.    take  a look since you are  offering.   my vip's   say they always  look   and  their answer is a lot  like  your answers    so please don't tell me that I have to knock down a few more positions.       seriously  I have made it the top 20    playing with 10k rewards.       if I got  what was owed  I wouldn't be playing them anymore.

  maybe  I should  create  a new post  and start putting screen shots  of all my pp  records.   what do you think?  then  maybe  you can explain things better  as I post them?   let  me know

yea   you can check my pp records.       you can even post them on here.    I play every day,    and yall rob me once a week.    for the last year.         a year  ago I played every position in my oracle   then bought a refresh  played all of those.      that  was  50 mil def and 70 mil off.       pp   gave me no rewards  over  100 units.   and since then  my  game has been  jacked.     I mean  yea  I can play pp    but  what is the point  if 95% of all my rewards  come in 10k  packages.     not to mention   I have  put  many  extra  1000's of cav and phalanx    and  heavies and lights    to try to get something  and still   10k rewards.      that is real funny.    take  a look since you are  offering.   my vip's   say they always  look   and  their answer is a lot  like  your answers    so please don't tell me that I have to knock down a few more positions.       seriously  I have made it the top 20    playing with 10k rewards.       if I got  what was owed  I wouldn't be playing them anymore.

  maybe  I should  create  a new post  and start putting screen shots  of all my pp  records.   what do you think?  then  maybe  you can explain things better  as I post them?   let  me know