Thanks Mikalosos really appreciated.

OK Plarium you made a mistake with emerald levels, did not inform us of the huge reduction when you introduced the skirmish function (and using skirmish function you are given no opportunity to see what the emerald rewards are) and as a direct consequence of which I lost all of my recharges and emeralds, which at the time totalled approx 1300.

I think it would be a good gesture to credit me with the lost emeralds please.

Grim_Reaper

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Grim_Reaper_T300 said:

I have read most of the posts above and I still do not see a clear answer - What do we have to do to get the COA rewards - NOT individual rewards - in the COA Arena?

Grim

Another eight days have elapsed since my last post.  I have bought ZERO packages in the last 20 days which means Plarium has lost $250-$300 direct revenue from me.  The Guardian feature has been ruined by the reduced level up rewards. 

As my Emerald balance steadily falls toward zero my Guardian play will end. I will NEVER buy any Emerald package to compensate for Plarium arbitrarily taking away what was free.

The new "features" - Arena contest and Guardian AutoPlay - both have very little to offer.  The "adventurers" are useless and pointless. They accomplish nothing that you couldn't accomplish before with regular guardians. They are "generic" guardians that cannot be used to enlighten. Very backwards way to speed up leveling up of other guardians.  The only useful features would have been if they were "generic" guardians capable of enlighting any guardian type of same grade but they are not. In fact the only thing to do with them is to disband them immediately to increase level of other guardians... what a waste of space and design time!

The Arena rewards are REALLY crummy and are not worth the time investment.  You get a couple of c r a p coalition "trashcans" with worthless trinkets in them + 5-10 useless adventurers.  To achieve any worthwhile reward you need to get 50-100 players from your coalition fully involved.  Despite a big push and effort to recruit players into the Arena event we got 25-30% participation rate.  We reached ring 26 and didn't get a single reward worth anything. Our coalition is ranked around 120 and we got ZILCH from arena event.  I wonder if any coalition felt this feature has any merit?

I like the Guardian Autoplay as long as it is free and as long as killing warlords delivers a positive Emerald cash flow.  My first 7 days free trial will expire shortly and I wont be buying any new ones so I am guessing that ultimately the feature will not exist for me.

Plarium has messed up the game balance with the Emerald/Guardian rule change. It tells me that Plarium will change the rules anytime it suits them and that nothing in the game is safe.  I will not invest another dollar in a game where the core rules can be changed by the developer, without notification and without valid reason. 

By your stupid decisions you have turned a paying customer into a freeloader... good job!

I spend comparatively little on this game compared to many, yet over the 2.5 years i have been playing, I have spent more on this game than any other game - ever.

This is in spite of the the frustratingly game lag, it's many many bugs that have me refreshing 50, 60 times a day, the spoiling dominance in the game of coiners and the blatant greediness of Plarium.

That rather on concentrating on making the game more fun for all, is entirely focused on how to make money.

As the post above illustrates, this approach only works short term, in the longer term it irritates the very people who are Plariums customers, it's players. 

i know it irritates me. 

Things like the slow game load 'cos Plarium wants to promote it's latest offer, the way that to carry out a game action it takes 6 clicks but to spend drachma's or $ it takes 1, the way every new feature is not primarily designed to enhance game play but instead to find a new way of inducing you to spend more more (the new conquest feature is a classic example- want to continue using this new game feature after the freebie runs out then folks that will take $$$).

The effectively cutting off the supply of emeralds is the final straw - that's it Plarium - restore how it was or I will never spend another cent.

Yours in disgust

Grim

ha ha so true

Mikalosos said:

Mikalosos said:

This guy, Plutonium, owns a small bar & restaurant... on Monday nights - game night - the restaurant offers a free draft beer with purchase of any meal.  The place is packed... The owner notices that he is not selling any wine on Monday nights - his busiest night of the week - so he decides to stop his draft beer giveaway which should allow him to sell more wine.  The next Monday night there is an increase in wine AND beer sales, but he notices that there is not nearly as much food sold... Many people just order a drink and watch the game.  This continues the following week but there are fewer customers that week.  Three weeks later there is only a handful of customers watching the game.

At the gym he runs into MIkalosos who was always there on Monday nights and asks him: What happened? I didn't see you last Monday...

Mikalosos: I stayed home and watched the game with my wife and had a nice home cooked meal and a great beer.  That sure beats watching the game on a small TV, in a crowded bar, eating crummy food... I just realized I was coming in every week only for the free beer.

The rest of the story: After two months of falling revenue Plutonium realized he had made a mistake by dropping the free draft beer on Monday nights... He reintroduced it 9 weeks later but by that time many of his customers had established new routines on Monday nights.  Monday nights at Plutonium recovered a bit over the next few months but never returned to their previous success.

Mikalosos continues to have dinner with his wife at home and doesn't miss his Monday nights at Plutonium's bar & restaurant.

The guardian situation was working fine. 

Now you have altered it, the situation is ridiculous. 

i have most of my guardian slots empty as with no emeralds i cannot replace them as i upgrade,  

i cannot attack warriors as i have no recharges or emeralds and cannot replenish (and please don't say use the auto replenish rate. It is so slow and with the limit of 10 attacks if we rely on this mode it would take days to simply upgrade a single guardian). 

I cannot unblock Guardians in the COA arena as I have no emeralds. 

I will not be able to compete in Guardian XP contest next week as I have no emeralds. 

This situation exists in spite of my achieving maximum rewards in last weeks guardian XP event. 

This situation is ridiculous and entirely of your making - presumably in an effort to force us to lay out cash to continue to upgrade our guardians although at the moment it is an indication of your lack of any intelligent planning with regard to this change, that we cannot even purchase emeralds or recharges even if we were prepared to.  

Sparta is a fine game being ruined by Plariums single minded focus on trying to squeeze money out of it's customers. Your greed is utterly deplorable. 

PLEASE RESET EMERALDS REWARDS TO THE WAY THEY WERE. 

This Reward is given to a Coalition that successfully clears Rings 30, 50, and 100. To receive this Reward, each Coalition Member must have defeated at least one of the Challengers during the current Coalition Arena Event.

Just replace (each) with (a) that's all. 

Tonaya said:

plarium,if you have one inactive player,or someone on holiday,and he dont attack any guardian,but all other members do play and win all......the hole coalition wont get reward because 1 inactive didnt participate in arena?

Tonaya

Exactly Tonaya...To get all my inactive players out with  billions defence on capital just to enjoy playing in arena... And the answer is no... 

Plarium  you know where exactly you ll put yr guardians.... Get some vaseline also...

Update: Just reached 35 days without spending a single dollar on the game.  I have now saved over $500!

Why did I quit spending money on the game?  At the core is the uncertainty that Plarium introduced by changing the Guardian rules without warning.  Not just the one change by itself but the uncertainty that it introduces in regard to all the other "rules".  What if Plarium changed the PP payout rules without telling us and 1000s of players killed their entire army trying to get payouts that had been disabled? Or if they introduce new units that are 100 x more powerful than the existing ones rendering your entire army worthless?  Or create features that disable city defense multiplier that players have spent millions of Drachmas building up?

The issue is trust.  Plarium has broken the implied trust that existed in the game by changing a well established rule and creating uncertainty. Uncertainty is horrible in business.  People don't want to "invest" money when the outcome is unpredictable.

It takes a long time to rebuild trust.  When you are caught cheating people won't want to play with you again for a very long time.

Plarium give me back my ******* Ambusher guardians back,i had a grade 4 rank 6 Ambusher guardian,amongst others, which have inexplicably vanished

IOANNIS said:

Leo said:

IOANNIS said:

10 Rank 2 total 152 hits or 15.2 per 1

The skirmish does not use the most efficient method. It uses single hits to kill warlord

What is the most efficient method ? 

Manually i need the same hits ... 

I use different methods depending on the circumstances and what my goals are at the time.

1. Single hit kills

2. Two hit kills

3. Multi hit kills

Leo said:

IOANNIS said:

10 Rank 2 total 152 hits or 15.2 per 1

The skirmish does not use the most efficient method. It uses single hits to kill warlord

What is the most efficient method ? 

For a rank 6 you need 720 rank 1 Guardians. (720*10=7200 emeralds)

From the 720 rank 1 you must max level the 360 and use the left 360 for upgrade them to rank 2

From the 360 rank 2 you must lvl up the 120 and use the 240 to upgrade to rank 3

So far :

With guardian XP Boost Active.

360 rank 1 to to max lvl : minimum 8 fights per guardian, 360*8=2880 hits/fights

120 rank 2 to to max lvl : minimum 15 fights per guardian, 120*15=1800 hits/fights

Total =2880+1800=4680 hits/fights.

You need so far 4680 hits/fights to have 120 rank 3 lvl 1 guardians.

720 guardians cost 7200 emeralds + 4680 emeralds to make them rank 3 lvl 1 =11880

360 max lvl bonus is 2*360=720

120 max lvl bonus is 120*5=600

Total bonus=1800+600=1320 emeralds

To Rank 3 lvl 1 Total emeralds Need=1320-11880=-10560 emeralds and 4680 hits/fights.  

Mikalosos said:

I understand that holy bonds can drop on warlord battles but so seldom that you are much better off buying them directly rather than buying energy with emeralds and trying to get them.

If you use the single guardian auto battle with energy recharge option enabled you will burn through all your emeralds without getting any rewards other than bonds and occasional free energy. 

Each Rank 6 guardian takes approximately 7000 warlord battles to create

Each Rank 5 guardian takes approximately 1200 warlord battles to create

I have 14 of each plus a lot of Rank 4.  I estimate that I have won in excess of 130,000 warlord battles and won 2 Holy Bonds which puts the odds at about 1-in-65,000.  Per this data it will cost about 6,500 emeralds to gain a single Holy Bond. This is much too expensive.

Why does it take you so many hits to create a Ran 5 or 6?

It takes me aprox 4460 Emeralds (Hits) to make a Rank 6. And now that they lowered the emerald rewards you can lower the hits down even more since you no longer want to take level 4's and 5's to max level before retiring them to make a 5 or 6.