IOANNIS said:

Leo said:

That is wrong and the reason why it takes you guys so many hits

With how many hits/fights you reach max level rank 1, from level 1 to 15 ?

With how many hits/fights you reach max level rank 2, from level 1 to 20 ?

It is in mt table. 

Rank 1's 4 hits

Rank 2's 10 hits

The guardian situation was working fine. 

Now you have altered it, the situation is ridiculous. 

i have most of my guardian slots empty as with no emeralds i cannot replace them as i upgrade,  

i cannot attack warriors as i have no recharges or emeralds and cannot replenish (and please don't say use the auto replenish rate. It is so slow and with the limit of 10 attacks if we rely on this mode it would take days to simply upgrade a single guardian). 

I cannot unblock Guardians in the COA arena as I have no emeralds. 

I will not be able to compete in Guardian XP contest next week as I have no emeralds. 

This situation exists in spite of my achieving maximum rewards in last weeks guardian XP event. 

This situation is ridiculous and entirely of your making - presumably in an effort to force us to lay out cash to continue to upgrade our guardians although at the moment it is an indication of your lack of any intelligent planning with regard to this change, that we cannot even purchase emeralds or recharges even if we were prepared to.  

Sparta is a fine game being ruined by Plariums single minded focus on trying to squeeze money out of it's customers. Your greed is utterly deplorable. 

PLEASE RESET EMERALDS REWARDS TO THE WAY THEY WERE. 

This Reward is given to a Coalition that successfully clears Rings 30, 50, and 100. To receive this Reward, each Coalition Member must have defeated at least one of the Challengers during the current Coalition Arena Event.

Just replace (each) with (a) that's all. 

I use different methods depending on the circumstances and what my goals are at the time.

1. Single hit kills

2. Two hit kills

3. Multi hit kills

I combine all three methods for best efficiency

I use different methods depending on the circumstances and what my goals are at the time.

1. Single hit kills

2. Two hit kills

3. Multi hit kills

I combine all three methods for best efficiency

Show as the four screenshot hits of rank 1 from lvl 1 to 15 ....

There is no way to bring rank 1 Guardians from level 1 to level 15 with an average of 4 hits.  It is possible to do it (even with 3 hits) using hits on already wounded warlords but that is not a realistic average since there are not enough higher level Guardians to "prepare" a sufficient number of wounded warlords to upgrade half of all the rank 1 Guardians you need.

To make a rank 4 Guardian you need 4 rank 3 - one of them at level 25

To make the 4 rank 3 Guardians you need 12 rank 2 with 4 of them at level 20

To make 12 rank 2 Guardians you need 24 rank 1 guardians - half of them at level 15

The combined task that needs to be accomplished is to upgrade

12 rank 1 from 1 to 15

6 rank 2 from 1 to 20

1 rank 3 from 1 to 25

How many total warlord hits does it take without any "outside" help meaning that no other Guardians except these 19 are used?

I say it takes around 200 Warlord battles to do it.

It seems we react like junkies... Since some idiots let them wives to get unpleasure and sitting on the sofa all day and spent thousant dollars and  killing them pensions, here is no luck on this game as Plarium ll pay attention how to get them money and give a little s*** about us... Cry as much as you want... 

 We the really lovers of this game or we quit and give some pleasure to those desperate housewives or we decide all together to move to another server and build for scratch our cities and play as the good old time... Then those moral coiners remain on the local server they ll kill soon each other, killing the server and the company and after they ll return to the local casinos spent them pensions to the slot machines as before discover Sparta... With one way or another still them wives they ll be desperate...

The ''cornutos'' they can pass from my city... I served the best hot coffee in Sparta...

someone help me with the palarium math ... they cut emerald rewards by 75%

then they double our rewards

we are still at 50% of what we used to get, not enough to replace what we spend improving our guardians

this still creates a huge dis-balance between the massive players that coined all their guardians to max level - and everyone else that has not

Leo said:

Mikalosos said:

There is no way to bring rank 1 Guardians from level 1 to level 15 with an average of 4 hits.  It is possible to do it (even with 3 hits) using hits on already wounded warlords but that is not a realistic average since there are not enough higher level Guardians to "prepare" a sufficient number of wounded warlords to upgrade half of all the rank 1 Guardians you need.

To make a rank 4 Guardian you need 4 rank 3 - one of them at level 25

To make the 4 rank 3 Guardians you need 12 rank 2 with 4 of them at level 20

To make 12 rank 2 Guardians you need 24 rank 1 guardians - half of them at level 15

The combined task that needs to be accomplished is to upgrade

12 rank 1 from 1 to 15

6 rank 2 from 1 to 20

1 rank 3 from 1 to 25

How many total warlord hits does it take without any "outside" help meaning that no other Guardians except these 19 are used?

I say it takes around 200 Warlord battles to do it.

 

lmfao

You made me go back and look at my chart again and it was wrong. 100% of my rank 1 level 1's are upgraded to level 15 in 3 hits. This is with guardian xp boost always on.

If you are unable to provide proofs then all you said is useless …

plarium,if you have one inactive player,or someone on holiday,and he dont attack any guardian,but all other members do play and win all......the hole coalition wont get reward because 1 inactive didnt participate in arena?

IOANNIS said:

Leo said:

Mikalosos said:

There is no way to bring rank 1 Guardians from level 1 to level 15 with an average of 4 hits.  It is possible to do it (even with 3 hits) using hits on already wounded warlords but that is not a realistic average since there are not enough higher level Guardians to "prepare" a sufficient number of wounded warlords to upgrade half of all the rank 1 Guardians you need.

To make a rank 4 Guardian you need 4 rank 3 - one of them at level 25

To make the 4 rank 3 Guardians you need 12 rank 2 with 4 of them at level 20

To make 12 rank 2 Guardians you need 24 rank 1 guardians - half of them at level 15

The combined task that needs to be accomplished is to upgrade

12 rank 1 from 1 to 15

6 rank 2 from 1 to 20

1 rank 3 from 1 to 25

How many total warlord hits does it take without any "outside" help meaning that no other Guardians except these 19 are used?

I say it takes around 200 Warlord battles to do it.

 

lmfao

You made me go back and look at my chart again and it was wrong. 100% of my rank 1 level 1's are upgraded to level 15 in 3 hits. This is with guardian xp boost always on.

If you are unable to provide proofs then all you said is useless …

I do not need to prove anything to you.As long as it works for me that is great. Even Mikalos has an idea how it works. You will figure it out eventually. Keep at it

i dont understand anything

Update: Just reached 35 days without spending a single dollar on the game.  I have now saved over $500!

Why did I quit spending money on the game?  At the core is the uncertainty that Plarium introduced by changing the Guardian rules without warning.  Not just the one change by itself but the uncertainty that it introduces in regard to all the other "rules".  What if Plarium changed the PP payout rules without telling us and 1000s of players killed their entire army trying to get payouts that had been disabled? Or if they introduce new units that are 100 x more powerful than the existing ones rendering your entire army worthless?  Or create features that disable city defense multiplier that players have spent millions of Drachmas building up?

The issue is trust.  Plarium has broken the implied trust that existed in the game by changing a well established rule and creating uncertainty. Uncertainty is horrible in business.  People don't want to "invest" money when the outcome is unpredictable.

It takes a long time to rebuild trust.  When you are caught cheating people won't want to play with you again for a very long time.

Nancy you state the obvious... that nobody should ever use the single Guardian attack feature because it's a trap to waste all your emeralds.

There is NO logical reason to continue attacking Warlords after your single Guardian has reached maximum level.  The only thing you can gain is summoning bonds and you're always better off buying them directly with Emeralds (or with cash) rather than rolling the dice with Warlord attacks.

I would challenge anyone playing Guardians extensively to come up with a scenario where using the single Guardian battle with energy recharge enabled makes any sense. I could not. 

In case anyone thinks that getting Holy Bonds is a reason to use this feature:

I have played Guardians extensively since they were introduced and have dropped TWO Holy bonds in the entire time which includes all the warlord battles to upgrade 16 Guardians to rank 6 and another 25 to rank 5.  This has cost over one hundred thousand emeralds to do.  Don't ever attack warlords to get bonds... never worth it.

Spartans, Solo Skirmishes allow you to send a lone Guardian to a Skirmish. This Guardian will automatically attack Warlords to obtain Rewards. You can send Guardians that are the maximum Level for their Rank on Solo Skirmishes to earn Summoning Bonds and Energy, but they will not earn any XP.

Solo Skirmishes end when one of the following parameters is met:

You run out of Energy

You run out of Energy Recharge Items and either Emeralds or Drachmas (depending on your version of the game) after choosing to recharge Energy automatically

You reach the Attack Limit

You end the Skirmish manually

More detailed information on how this feature work can be found here. If you faced a bug, please report it to our support team. 

Update: 26 days since I last spent any money on this game... Total Plarium income lost $350-$400. Total extra money in my pocket $350-$400

Many players are complaining about single Guardian Auto-battle feature that can eat up thousands of Emeralds if you enable automatic energy recharge.    This is clearly a badly designed feature and several players have lost their entire Emerald reserve using it.  It should have a default setting that stops the warlord attacks when the guardian reaches maximum level. If someone wanted the battles to continue past that point the feature could have an override to set number of battles. Plarium should absolutely fix this badly designed feature and restore lost Emeralds to players that were tricked by it.  If Plarium does not have the data to figure out who was affected then at least give out a free Emerald package so these players can get restarted.

The Guardian Autoplay feature is dead anyway since you decided to change $9.95 per week to enable it. Guardians is an annoying part of the game... charging extra for the right to bypass it with autoplay is unconscionable.  It's basic extortion: You add terrible features to the game and charge players to bypass them.

With every new feature you confirm to me that I was right to quit spending money... No amount that I spend on this game will be enough to quench Plarium's insatiable thirst for more... game quality falling fast + cost to play increasing even faster = No more money from me!

You reduced the emerald rewards for leveling up guardians in a massive way - increasing the value of emeralds.

The solo skirmish was released without proper play testing - and the bugs in it caused many people to loose a very large number of emeralds and energy recharge items.  Some of us spent money to gather these items.

Is there another person that can speak to us about these issues?   If such cases as this, that rob paying members of items they purchased are not subject to compensation,  then I would like to hear this from someone from management.

It costs you nothing to compensate people for what is fundamentally a Plarium error.

Sorry Nancy but Plarium stuff up & we pay.

I am not understanding your bewildering attitude to your customers at all.

No wonder people are leaving this game in droves