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23 листоп. 2017, 23:1923.11.17
29.02.16
2640

Crowbar said:


Sergey Kryvorotchenko said:

Crowbar said:

Sergey Kryvorotchenko said:

Let's consider 2 cases:

1. Your Prizes' progress is known. You need just send Units to Prizes and wait for your progress reaches the certain value. Very simple.

2. Your Prizes' progress is hidden. And you have to a) find out what is the Resource value of each type your Units; b) Calculate all the loses; c) investigate which types of Units are more useful for exchange on Prizes; d) pay attention to details to find out your bank is full and it's time for a big reward!

And which case is more strategical to you, Captain?

Number one, because with it I can plan, i.e., make strategy. With number two, I can play detective/researcher/adventurer (or ignore the prizes, as I usually do).

You can plan with number two as well. Why not? You just need to investigate this feature carefully to make a more precise plan. The difference is just in difficulty level.

I cannot plan if I don't know how it works. The question was "which case is more strategical to you?" and my answer is: "the one in which I can plan to make strategy". The other one is a detective game (where you can change things under the hood without us knowing). We can play both, of course, but only one is (more) strategical.

I can accept that one can plan to a certain point without knowing the exact rules and/or when they change (i.e., in case #2), but there is no doubt that one can plan better if they know how it works, making the case one more strategical, which was the original question I was answering.

I feel like we're going in circles, sir Crowbar. Prizes are a difficult part of the gameplay. I know a lot of players who lose their troops. On the other hand, I know players who get their rewards constantly. What does it mean? It means some players have a strategy even without their Prizes' progress (bank) and another part doesn't have any strategy or tactics.

19 квіт. 2018, 09:5419.04.18
231989
Yaarrr ja man ik ken dit problem ook maan zeker wel torrie die gefikst moet worden hustle hustle scrum er erin
11 жовт. 2018, 14:2711.10.18
07.03.16
247
I have to agree with shadowda, prizes give up nothing for the amount used and espically lost! I pretty much have given up on prizes, I just send whittle down units (1k maruders or 1k bonnies) so maybe when a prize event comes up can finish it off, with minimal losses.
21 листоп. 2018, 20:3421.11.18
231989

This prize game is frustrating. My biggest payout was 2812 jugs on an 81 corsair prize. However I have spent rubies reviving over 8,000 jugs and using them in the prizes. After a large payout I know my bank is still in the positive but it doesn't give me a big payout until I have used up all the units that I have just previously won. Sometimes I get to the point where I do not have anymore units left. So now I am in the hole by 8,000 jugs. This shouldn't be happening at level 81 highest prize done. The algorithm for prize payout blows. It should always pay you out when you have banked enough. For example a level 59 payout is around 22 million. So if you have over 22 mil in the bank you should get paid after defeating the prize. The downside of it is if you do level 1-30 I guess you will always get a large payout if you have so much banked up. Doing things this way will make the prize game easy wouldn't it. You can keep going until there are no more prizes. But with the way things are now you can have close to 200 million banked up and still run out of units doing level 81 and lower prizes. I guess that's how the developers want it to be. Speaking of strategy, there is no real strategy to the prize game. The only strategy is "I hope I get my large payout" at least for me in this case, since I have so much banked up. No kidding though there is a bit of strategy to this prize game besides luck of getting a large payout. For corsair units you can use whatever offense you want since it will always be the same type of unit defending it. For the other 3 type of prizes like the caravel, safe haven and sea fort what I do is send in 1 unit first and wait for the battle report. From there I can see what types of unit are in the prize and send in the appropriate units to minimize my losses. For example if a caravel is mostly submarines your better off sending in pirates, mercenary or fleet units. If you don't have those then just skip it and do the others until you get enough units from mini payouts or a large payout to do that prize. However if you don't want to wait then be prepared to lose a lot of armada ships killing off that caravel. Hope my rant might get things changed and the strategy I use may be helpful to those who find it to be useful.


26 січ. 2019, 18:0026.01.19
1

How do I get friends to complete tasks?



26 січ. 2019, 19:3026.01.19
07.03.16
247

I'm not sure of what you are trying to say here, but if it has to do with getting new friends to play,   http://prntscr.com/mckl39   if I remember that was removed., But if I'm wrong then you are to get new players to join the game.   I hope we are on the same page her, if I'm not replying to what you mean please feel free to PM me or Crowbar.  Pleasant sailing and good luck.

27 жовт. 2020, 07:2027.10.20
231989

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2 груд. 2020, 09:1902.12.20
25.01.17
7

so, its pretty obvious to me (an old timer) been playing this game for 7-8 years & the prize value HAS CHANGED, having lost 78mil in troop value a few weeks ago, & having not come close to recouping my losses, & also having spent a min of 50k in rubies + more troops trying to recover, im pretty pissed of .. never have i FAILED on so many prizes, even using cheat sheets .. & now to have hit a lvl 178 only to have failed again by over 1.5mil having sent 11mil at it , i think its time to call it a day, when you cansider that 12mil is a lvl 200, not only is it frustrating but its also a rip off .. 

CrowbarModerator
2 груд. 2020, 20:4902.12.20
07.03.16
2422

@Patch , I asked my CM. They have asked the devs and they claim that nothing was changed.

I understand that you probably won't agree with that, but we on the forum can only ask for an official response.

I do know players who are happy with Prizes (at very high levels), especially when combined with Brawls and other tournaments and timed for global revival discounts.

31 груд. 2020, 00:3831.12.20
31 груд. 2020, 00:40(відредаговано)
27.10.16
38

and it's getting worse

Prize Nazi's ... NO POINTS FOR YOU !!!

15 черв. 2017, 08:2715.06.17
231989
The algorithm of rewards wasn't changed even a year ago. We added a guaranteed reward, that's true. but your total reward will still be the same.
2 лют. 2021, 14:5002.02.21
30.11.14
5

Ive been doing prizes the last 3 days working from level 102 to level 140 doing only offence . i lost around 25 million worth of offence in total winning smaller prizes each level until i got to level 141 then dropped 20 million worth of offence so recovered a big chunk of offence. But as i was winning smaller prizes up to my big drop i was winning defence with the offence prizes and on checking i am now around 10 million up on defence so im actually in front including that . I was getting worried that i wasnt actually going to win anything back as people keep saying you cant win any more and its a waste of time . Glad i kept going . It as maybe taken longer to get back then it use to but in the end it worked out. In the past i could pretty much predict when i would drop a big prize but now i cant... is that the case in general now with most people would you say? 

10 трав. 2023, 06:4910.05.23
28.07.15
55

You could build 100, 200, or even 500 havens and run tests on the prizes yourself. Plarium doesn't seem to mind! Just look at the flood of new alts coming in the last year... 

Go on, work it out. lol

5 трав. 2017, 13:1905.05.17
5 трав. 2017, 13:19(відредаговано)
26.01.15
52

There are a hidden web of connections in this game that explain a lot about everyone's attitudes. 

I would like someone from Plarium to tell us what caused Pirates and Stormfall to be moved off of the Kabam servers.

CrowbarModerator
24 трав. 2023, 20:5124.05.23
07.03.16
2422

@Webfoot Willy, I hear you, but is there a question or are you just commenting on the silly limit on the number of Friends?

Also, what does this have to do with Prizes (you chose to write in Prizes topic)?

CrowbarModerator
5 трав. 2017, 06:3705.05.17
07.03.16
2422

Smitten said:

Last year you shared a "secret" of the lighthouse with us. The secret was that bretheren units do count toward your bank account. Should we assume that you were telling the truth and they are worth 100% as much as regular units? or was this a "half-truth" where bretheren units are worth less than regular units?

It wasn't a half-truth: they do count, but she has always maintained that she can't say how valued. So, yes, it is possible that they are worth less.

5 трав. 2017, 03:4905.05.17
5 трав. 2017, 03:49(відредаговано)
26.01.15
52

Alyona,


Last year you shared a "secret" of the lighthouse with us. The secret was that bretheren units do count toward your bank account. Should we assume that you were telling the truth and they are worth 100% as much as regular units? or was this a "half-truth" where bretheren units are worth less than regular units?
24 квіт. 2017, 18:0224.04.17
24 квіт. 2017, 18:03(відредаговано)
20.02.17
3

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


PeA said:


maybe the bank too calculates the consumption of rum 

I don't think so 
  • "Pardon me to ask but are you 100% sure that pardonned units have half value?"
  • If this is true maybe...  

  • Gumboat: 2500 + 1500 + 1000 = 5000
  • Veteran Gumboat: 750 + 450 + 300 =1500

  • Now well...
  • pardoned Gumboat: 2500 + 1500 + 1000 =5000 (has same resources?)
  • pardoned Veteran Gumboat: 750 + 450 + 300 =1500 (has same resources?)
  • Maybe an average of both resources
  • Gumboat + Veteran Gumboat: 6500%2= 3250 (?)
  • This would approach to "pardonned units have half value" 
19 квіт. 2017, 08:4919.04.17
06.11.14
579

Xike said:


I have in the bank over 100 million in resources and my highest payouts on the large scale is roughly around 45 mil to 50 mil. IDK how the payouts work as to when the system decides to give you a big 1 but I can tell you that after getting a big payout I would most of the time use it all up and end up not getting a large pay out. So the bank never pays me out in full and is always holding like 50 mil worth of resources from me after a large payout. So I end up getting stuck and cant do anything until I get more troops to be able to knock down some more prizes. For the more experienced players on prizes I would like to know at higher levels (I am on 75 highest level done) does the bank ever pay you out in full or are you always in the hole like me after a large payout? When I do my prizes my warehouse is fully stocked so I only get units. If that is something someone wanted to know from me, and also I use only white sails. I only use brethren in emergencies when I almost knocked down a prize and it has very little units left and I have no other units to use except those. I am getting really frustrated with the prize game seeing how the payouts are not paying me back anywhere close to what I have put in it.


I'd suggest going higher, and keep doing prizes on the higher side rather than lower ones. Only drop down when you can't go up anymore. A second thing I've noticed in my own experience is to start your lighthouse run in the high 30s to 40s. You get very little back to advance. On whether the bank pays your bank in full I've noticed 75- 150% in payments. As long as the payment is in one shot though
11 квіт. 2017, 17:3811.04.17
231989
I have in the bank over 100 million in resources and my highest payouts on the large scale is roughly around 45 mil to 50 mil. IDK how the payouts work as to when the system decides to give you a big 1 but I can tell you that after getting a big payout I would most of the time use it all up and end up not getting a large pay out. So the bank never pays me out in full and is always holding like 50 mil worth of resources from me after a large payout. So I end up getting stuck and cant do anything until I get more troops to be able to knock down some more prizes. For the more experienced players on prizes I would like to know at higher levels (I am on 75 highest level done) does the bank ever pay you out in full or are you always in the hole like me after a large payout? When I do my prizes my warehouse is fully stocked so I only get units. If that is something someone wanted to know from me, and also I use only white sails. I only use brethren in emergencies when I almost knocked down a prize and it has very little units left and I have no other units to use except those. I am getting really frustrated with the prize game seeing how the payouts are not paying me back anywhere close to what I have put in it.