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Jul 5, 2016, 08:5007/05/16
Jul 5, 2016, 08:54(edited)
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Lyderis said:


hero, troop levels, elixirs and dominion, they all have nothing to do with pp. if u r maxed on those, u will be able to do more pp before u get paid, and that is it. fishguy is doin fine, and will continue up until he get's paid from lvl 139 or similar, let's name this pay out x, then he has to loose x+10%, but he will be paid only x, because of the limits

(every pp level has a limit on how much u can get from it)

So many "experts" so many "statements" and NO one like EVER says why is what.. 

Jul 5, 2016, 14:0507/05/16
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This game is driven by mathematics. Those who are proficient in math will perform better in the game than those who are not. The algorythm driving the PP's represents an mathematical function. Some players apparently have been succesfull in  cracking the code ( the algorythm) using mathematical analysis. So now plarium  has made a few changes to the PP algorythm which is in their interest only. 


Its is possible to win in PP play provided u got patience and skills.  I know in advance what i m going to lose when facing Xerxes and once every 10-15 turns they give me a big pay-out. My strategy, like Hacker's I presume,  is to build infantry units and exchange them for Phalanx and cavalry units. So plarium's changes dont effect my strategy....overall i m still winning against them .  
Jul 7, 2016, 12:0507/07/16
12/13/14
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i just told u how to get more troops than your reward... u r fooked after getting 17 k promachos anyway, so u can collect partials and end up with a bit more than u had.

and 17 k promachos is possible reward, not from lvl 80 ofcourse, but lvl 139 should do it. and u should delete oracle after getting pay out from lvl 135-140.
Jul 9, 2016, 21:0207/09/16
11/04/15
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I quit sparta for two months after the second PP tweak. No one was cheating anyone. You cant just decide to do PP one day and a month later end up with 500mil army. We spent a lot of time trying to understand PP and any gains,which were usually within a few million overall, were a result of our "hardwork".. I returned when a friend told me they tweaked PP again. This is worse. way worse. No profit in PP anymore. I dont even understand why anyone would want to covert lights/heavies into phalanx/cavalry - Unit dismissal is no longer a problem and lights/heavies are better for pvp/pp. What lyderis is saying is 100% correct. first time l140 payout= x. second time u repay x+20% and recover x. third time you repay 120% of x+20% and only recover x. losses start increasing exponentially. This is why we needed the previous partial system. at this point I probably have to invest 300mil to recover from PP. No single position will give me that much....
Jul 11, 2016, 00:5307/11/16
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can confirm, 1 bar tactic is everywhere on google as old as can be.

Think they hit the nail in their own coffin here. Game is already weak as hell, i never played much persians, but people gonna be loosing interest fast.


The older players are the ones playing persians almost only,if the reward for doing it is really so low, then how they gonna have to play their game. I presume plarium thinks players dont like rewards and just gonna cash out for a game which doesnt supply fun. I guess they removed the fun for many of those players. U have to be able to grow your army by playing the game in some way. Pvp doesnt work since rewards are too low, so u loose more then u get. Not playing the game and just building seems about the only way but well that doesnt sound like fun and pointless. So the only way to grow your army was persians if u did it right, thats been broken down.


Jul 11, 2016, 13:5707/11/16
Jul 11, 2016, 14:00(edited)
08/25/14
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Hey guys, the fact anything is on YouTube or whatever has nothing to do with the fact it's not a bug exploit...


Actually, before they introduced systematic partial rewards, the way you played the Persians had no effect at all anyway, so advising to play that way wasn't a problem for Plarium.


However, since this method exploited a bug after they added them, it actually gave bigger payouts, so once they've realized this, they fixed the bug.

End of the story.


Actually, just to be cynical, you reported yourselves by publishing the trick ! ^^

Jul 11, 2016, 16:3807/11/16
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Thatbloke, so are you - like Hackerista - saying that Plarium did this because they cared about the "balance" between players? It seems to me that Plarium is more interested in their own "balance", would you not agree? Oh hold on... of course you wouldn't. Miraculously all the moderators and employees think that this was an act of justice to... umm... increase the fun of the game? Such coincidence!
Jul 12, 2016, 06:1707/12/16
08/03/15
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lil_uzi94 said:



How was it exploiting? You have 0 idea how PP worked.  stop trying to defend plarium on issues you clearly have no idea. 

Greetings Archon!

 Please do post your knowledge on how Persian Positions worked ! Players would appreciate it more !

Jul 12, 2016, 07:1007/12/16
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Hackerista said:


 Please do post your knowledge on how Persian Positions worked ! Players would appreciate it more !

Oh yes indeed.. but I won't be holding my breath..  


Jul 18, 2016, 13:1907/18/16
04/11/15
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the persian positions is a big joke dude!!! i lost 22k peltasta mont. and 9k agemas the past week.....my big reward??? spent more money for plarium.... but not , this time not...i play games online for a long time ...but this suck ??? i hope any changes por PP, i play this game 3 months ago, and im tired for this big joke...AMEN.
Jul 23, 2016, 21:2307/23/16
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hahaha  it is so funny to read everyone's  complaints.   some people really just believe this is a casino,   maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel    and     possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2.


Jul 23, 2016, 23:1007/23/16
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patrick.mcgraw21 said:

hahaha  it is so funny to read everyone's  complaints.   some people really just believe this is a casino,   maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel    and     possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2.


.. and maybe you should go read: Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28..
Jul 24, 2016, 13:1907/24/16
Jul 24, 2016, 13:37(edited)
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lil_uzi94 said:


u need to start doing PP. I was wrong, the new system is even better than the partial system!!! do it at low level noob. easy win for u. at worst u lose 200-300k!!

I have never stopped doing PPs, I only do them when the XP tournament is on and I am only up to lvl70.

Now, about you.. if you have some knowledge that you would like to share about PPs, please do so.. tell us what is the best way to play them, make a guide or something and maybe people will take you seriously.. 

Posting tedious/creepy/cryptic nonsense all the time and telling players that they don't know what they're talking about, it's quite boring you know.. 

I remember you posting that you were "trying to teach the whole Coa how to play PPs but they wouldn't listen".. I wonder why! 


Edit: Oops, almost forgot.. you should also read that "Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28"l! lol 

Jul 26, 2016, 14:1707/26/16
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patrick.mcgraw21 said: hahaha it is so funny to read everyone's complaints. some people really just believe this is a casino, maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel and possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2. .. and maybe you should go read: Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28..



I'm pretty sure literature  has nothing to do with a game of numbers,   but  I read it  and still makes no sense, for this game anyways 

Jul 26, 2016, 23:4907/26/16
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patrick.mcgraw21 said:

patrick.mcgraw21 said: hahaha it is so funny to read everyone's complaints. some people really just believe this is a casino, maybe you should go take a class for Microsoft Excel and possibly Algebra 1 maybe 2. .. and maybe you should go read: Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, 26-28..



I'm pretty sure literature  has nothing to do with a game of numbers,   but  I read it  and still makes no sense, for this game anyways 

Oh my..
Jul 28, 2016, 22:3207/28/16
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Think they should update their own website, mmo master tips for persians 2015, explains the tactic they now call unfair on their bloody own website.

Telling everyone to do it, then call everyone cheaters and the cheating method is still under tips.


Only thing i can say is: WTF

Or shame, shame, shame...
Jul 12, 2016, 03:0207/12/16
11/04/15
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Hackerista said:

ONLINE.ALIEN said:


can confirm, 1 bar tactic is everywhere on google as old as can be.


Think they hit the nail in their own coffin here. Game is already weak as hell, i never played much persians, but people gonna be loosing interest fast.








The older players are the ones playing persians almost only,if the reward for doing it is really so low, then how they gonna have to play their game. I presume plarium thinks players dont like rewards and just gonna cash out for a game which doesnt supply fun. I guess they removed the fun for many of those players. U have to be able to grow your army by playing the game in some way. Pvp doesnt work since rewards are too low, so u loose more then u get. Not playing the game and just building seems about the only way but well that doesnt sound like fun and pointless. So the only way to grow your army was persians if u did it right, thats been broken down.



Greetings Archon, 

I do not think players consider that exploit 'having fun' and a legit way to grow their armies. Now, the game is more fair and more fun for people not having to fight huge armies.
How was it exploiting? You have 0 idea how PP worked. why isnt it a legitimate way of growing armies? I probably had an army 10 times bigger than you but I also coined 8/9 times more than you. This goes for every PP players there ever was. Now the problem is I will coin 8/9 times more than you but your army will be 10 times bigger than mine. You get paid 1000 drachmas/ week stop trying to defend plarium on issues you clearly have no idea. 
Jul 30, 2016, 14:2807/30/16
01/19/16
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well said mars. plarium will change the rules to make thier profits bigger. they are the real cheaters
Aug 15, 2016, 18:3508/15/16
Aug 15, 2016, 18:35(edited)
03/31/16
10

I got 450 promacho in lvl45. Is that full reward ?

All my 1M offense are dead - 1000 swordsman, 1000 hoptile, 500 mirmidon, 200 phalax, 150 promacho and 300 agema.

The reward is too low compared to that i spent. My highest lvl is 55.
Jul 11, 2016, 18:0707/11/16
12/13/14
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this topic is only interesting to read because it is funny, how those moderators still have no idea what was wrong or what has been changed, but still trying to defend plarium:) last video on youtube was like 5 months old, meaning even before 60 pp per day were introduced, and there is no video that teaches how u can gain more troops. plarium will feel free to make any changes they want to, as long as there r players doing pp- they do not give a fook. leonidas did not even comment anything, close this topic, cause moderators will give u no answers- they just do not know them.