I will tell you from my experience what is wrong with PP:

1. You have to PAY if your big army is stuck at PP or want to have your army back immediately,

2. You don't know the NUMBERS/TYPE of units at next full payout (some have better resource/power/grain consumption value),

3. You don't know WHEN next full payout will happen, 

4. Even if you pay, full payout is NOT GUARANTEED when you go for it,

5. PP mechanism is a top secret and known only to Plarium,

6. They can CHANGE the PP mechanics when they want, they don't care if you are in middle of something,

7. They don't tell you how RESOURCE VALUE is calculated for non standard units,

8. And worst of all, they DON'T CARE if we enjoy to play PP or not.

I hope that some of devs will read my post, Alyona I hope that you care at least.

to tsunwu85rsa:

this is my last payout:

http://prntscr.com/d5e0e5

post your big payout,and then,please,explain to me what 90% of my words are wrong?

Tonaya

everyone   knows  that  you can not expect a huge payout every time you play the  POSITIONS   right???        I have been playing them for over 4 months now  and I have made it to the 24th spot on all time  pp  record.     Plarium says they fixed a glitch, but their will always be glitches  in the gaming code.    Has anyone asked about the infestations  that are programmed into the  Persian Positions.    I think  this is  what frustrates people the most with losing their armies.   that is why the moderators and plarium respond with, "we didn't tell you to send your whole army."   the infestations or  the losing of your army, just allows you the time to build up the bank system.  also  if your payout is skipped your next one will be twice the size.   

   I lost a huge army  of def  about 4 months ago    and still have not  got it back, but saying that I can  take less  than a mil. in offensive power and knock out 20- 30 positions a night.  allowing me to always have something to play PVP  with  for points in tournaments,  and enough to fill up  all my slots for equipment to break down.   not  coining.    every week I score at least 80k  in XP points.

  SO....  what is  the problem here  with the positions.   you can not force a payout on them  you have to take what is given to you and play the game, ie...the daily task, raiding and pvp/ pp,   with what the Persians give you.  this will allow for your rewards to keep producing  on the smaller levels  to get you into the bigger levels.    if you are not completing all the task then  you are not ready to play the Persians for the day.      the whole game experience is what the max rewards are really about from the Persians.    try it;  spend a bunch of money    or just play the  game  as much as you can  for a few weeks  and then hit up the Persians    you will have the same results.

this  is all a game of math   not so much logic,  except  when to know when to walk away.       try low balling the positions in strength if  you can attack 6 or so positions  with the intent  to only bring them to 10%-15% power    one of the positions  will pay out, allowing you to keep  the flow of attacks  going.     don't even  waste your  time playing anything below level 64     unless you have to...    you need  to be able to knock down multiple positions  before your payout comes.   

if anyone  has any questions  or needs help   I would  be happy to  help  out.   look me up  I'm in the RAZORBACKS COA    my game name is PMC

 A really good payout!

This is my payout yesterday so and not losing total amount that I started with at the beginning I gained some which I will not disclose but its still worth playing ..

https://gyazo.com/7f715e55a7512063a56f7dc29bc6b901

that   payout  is  something  you should be  getting  on a level  91 to 109     I  get  something  like  that   every so often.    when there  is  def  payouts  on level  116-129     it  should  be  18k-29k     or   a split pay   of 26k  mounted pelts  and 7 k agema.    for the   level  you  played.     so   that  is   roughly a mid size payout     hardly worth the effort  if it takes  you 6  levels  to knock  down or more to get  it.    you are  still down   from what you put into   so  don't  say  your investment is  even.  and  if  your investment is even   good luck on your  next payout.

also  the  offensive  positions   payout   from level  91- 109  is  also  about  7k-10k  phalanx       and  if you get  the payout  on level 110-113   it will be  12k-14k,    or again    a split pay  of  2-3k mounted plets  and  7-12k agema.  for phalanx  it should  be  2k-3k theuro' and  5-7k promos.

so  your payout  is still small.   in the next several days I will be  uploading  all my payouts.

Now I'm not sure about all of u and why the complaining on some of u on getting payout this is my last 4 sets playing Persians,i will continue to play as its does help me gain pieces for my general and to level up quicker.

https://gyazo.com/1ec14c192d89cafa2ff657485322a5f6

https://gyazo.com/aae3b0f264e7a046501805f5981a8bb6

https://gyazo.com/86f5cc2fc0e6c7a2014154327637095f

https://gyazo.com/89c10291b6c94cd7442fbe34d7c9f322

Long ago, after multiple failed attempts to receive any FAIR compensation from Plarium for the losses I sustains due to "bugs", I realized that most if not all of those bugs are intentional. Looks like they are aimed at either encouraging players (frustrated with the losses) to spend more real money or/and at forcing non-spenders out of the game. Well,most of the "developments" were apparently introduced for the same purposes. 

The game is self-advertised as "strategic" and "intellectual",  but by consistently hiding  key rules ("we cannot disclose it") and re-writing programs, you turn the players into clueless gamblers. You seem impersonating Architects (remember "Matrix"?). And I promised myself to avoid any further contacts with the Admins, That after happened after Leonidas in our personal exchange (thank The Blok for arranging it) refused to promise me I will be compensated for unfair losses Plarium caused, even if I present  bullet-prove evidence. 

The time passed proved my suspicions that Plarium profiles players and some of them (probably the stubborn non-buyers) get harsher treatment. I have been out of decent PP payouts for 4-6 months. Keep sacrificing much more than the last large payout, losing virtually everything - but payout could be 66 horses on the PP lvl 135-156. 

You might say: oh, you do not know how to play PP. Well, I do not know all the traps you invented, but i do help a friend to run his PP. I assure payouts for him to be pretty regular, his troops level is about 3-4 times larger on average than what I have. And that is despite huge disadvantage to compare with me several months ago: he was 30-35 levels below, trailing me dramatically on all accounts. 

Last irregularity: at 2am EAST I got 6000 Aegemas PP  payout. Pretty good in general but mach smaller than I was supposed to get. That alone is about 17.5 million off power as my ageamas are 2.8k each, plus other troops I have. . However, even 12 hours later, my polemarchs said my power still  registered as merely 7 mil.

Plaruim, I urge you to dismantle your repressive spells. Please, you already caused me enough damage.