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NancyAdmin
Nov 8, 2019, 11:0111/08/19
07/09/19
1870
Ares said:

I also used the conquest item when it was released and have suffered the almost complete loss of almost 2000 recharges and emeralds.

I am awaiting Plarium's response to Grim's question on compensation for this Plarium debarcle.

Ares

2126 -279

inGlorious Valley


Grim_Reaper_T300 said:


Thanks Mikalosos really appreciated.


OK Plarium you made a mistake with emerald levels, did not inform us of the huge reduction when you introduced the skirmish function (and using skirmish function you are given no opportunity to see what the emerald rewards are) and as a direct consequence of which I lost all of my recharges and emeralds, which at the time totalled approx 1300.

I think it would be a good gesture to credit me with the lost emeralds please.

Grim_Reaper

1875 -150

glorious valley

I'm afraid, such cases are not a subject for compensation. Thanks for understanding
Nov 6, 2019, 15:4111/06/19
01/15/17
45

I agree with Grim entirely.

For this to work emerald rewards IMO need to be at least:

Rank      Emeralds upon max level

1             15

2             25

3             40

4             60 + 60 for L35

5            150 +150 L35

6            300 + 300 L40

I have deliberately suggested flattening out the rewards structure - why penalise the little guy?

Otherwise for most of us playing the guardians will be a thing of the past.

Ares

PS Please reduce the RSI aspect of doing Guardians manually by:

1) Eliminating the need to scroll down to select warrior eg make warrior boxes smaller

2) Put a hard stop to scrolling down to the bottom of your guardians (we do not need to see empty boxes).

3) Get rid of sort by afinity (does anyone use this sort?) and replacing it by a nested sort that puts all Guardian's that are at max level to bottom and sort remaining guardians by level descending

Thank you.

Nov 21, 2019, 20:4611/21/19
05/05/16
67

IOANNIS said:


Leo said:


IOANNIS said:


10 Rank 2 total 152 hits or 15.2 per 1


The skirmish does not use the most efficient method. It uses single hits to kill warlord

What is the most efficient method ? 

Manually i need the same hits ... 

I use different methods depending on the circumstances and what my goals are at the time.


1. Single hit kills

2. Two hit kills

3. Multi hit kills


I combine all three methods for best efficiency
Nov 21, 2019, 20:4111/21/19
09/04/16
288

Leo said:


IOANNIS said:


10 Rank 2 total 152 hits or 15.2 per 1


The skirmish does not use the most efficient method. It uses single hits to kill warlord

What is the most efficient method ? 

Manually i need the same hits ... 
Nov 21, 2019, 20:3411/21/19
05/05/16
67

IOANNIS said:


Leo said:

That is wrong and the reason why it takes you guys so many hits

With how many hits/fights you reach max level rank 1, from level 1 to 15 ?

With how many hits/fights you reach max level rank 2, from level 1 to 20 ?

It is in mt table. 

Rank 1's 4 hits

Rank 2's 10 hits

Nov 21, 2019, 20:3311/21/19
05/05/16
67
IOANNIS said:

10 Rank 2 total 152 hits or 15.2 per 1


The skirmish does not use the most efficient method. It uses single hits to kill warlord
Nov 21, 2019, 20:3111/21/19
09/04/16
288
10 Rank 2 total 152 hits or 15.2 per 1


Nov 21, 2019, 20:2611/21/19
09/04/16
288

Leo said:

That is wrong and the reason why it takes you guys so many hits

With how many hits/fights you reach max level rank 1, from level 1 to 15 ?

With how many hits/fights you reach max level rank 2, from level 1 to 20 ?

Nov 21, 2019, 20:2211/21/19
05/05/16
67

Leo said:


I posted this before but I bring current so you can see. This was before Plarium in their ultimate wisdom chose to lower the Emerald Rewards for leveling up but the idea and hits remains the same.


You can see it takes me 4 hits (half what you claim) to make a Rank 1 Level 1 to max level 15.


4 x 360 = 1,440 saves hits just right there
Nov 21, 2019, 20:1311/21/19
05/05/16
67
IOANNIS said:

For a rank 6 you need 720 rank 1 Guardians. (720*10=7200 emeralds)


From the 720 rank 1 you must max level the 360 and use the left 360 for upgrade them to rank 2

From the 360 rank 2 you must lvl up the 120 and use the 240 to upgrade to rank 3


So far :


With guardian XP Boost Active.

360 rank 1 to to max lvl : minimum 8 fights per guardian, 360*8=2880 hits/fights

120 rank 2 to to max lvl : minimum 15 fights per guardian, 120*15=1800 hits/fights


Total =2880+1800=4680 hits/fights.


You need so far 4680 hits/fights to have 120 rank 3 lvl 1 guardians.


720 guardians cost 7200 emeralds + 4680 emeralds to make them rank 3 lvl 1 =11880

360 max lvl bonus is 5*360=1800

120 max lvl bonus is 120*5=600


Total bonus=1800+600=2400 emeralds


To Rank 3 lvl 1 Total emeralds Need=2400-11880=-9480 emeralds and 4680 hits/fights.  


That is wrong and the reason why it takes you guys so many hits
Nov 21, 2019, 20:5311/21/19
Nov 21, 2019, 21:11(edited)
09/04/16
288

I use different methods depending on the circumstances and what my goals are at the time.


1. Single hit kills

2. Two hit kills

3. Multi hit kills


I combine all three methods for best efficiency
Show as the four screenshot hits of rank 1 from lvl 1 to 15 ....
Nov 22, 2019, 18:0911/22/19
05/05/16
67
IOANNIS said:


I use different methods depending on the circumstances and what my goals are at the time.


1. Single hit kills

2. Two hit kills

3. Multi hit kills


I combine all three methods for best efficiency
Show as the four screenshot hits of rank 1 from lvl 1 to 15 ....
If I show you then I have to kill you
Nov 25, 2019, 03:0811/25/19
05/05/16
67

Mikalosos said:


There is no way to bring rank 1 Guardians from level 1 to level 15 with an average of 4 hits.  It is possible to do it (even with 3 hits) using hits on already wounded warlords but that is not a realistic average since there are not enough higher level Guardians to "prepare" a sufficient number of wounded warlords to upgrade half of all the rank 1 Guardians you need.

To make a rank 4 Guardian you need 4 rank 3 - one of them at level 25

To make the 4 rank 3 Guardians you need 12 rank 2 with 4 of them at level 20

To make 12 rank 2 Guardians you need 24 rank 1 guardians - half of them at level 15

The combined task that needs to be accomplished is to upgrade

12 rank 1 from 1 to 15

6 rank 2 from 1 to 20

1 rank 3 from 1 to 25

How many total warlord hits does it take without any "outside" help meaning that no other Guardians except these 19 are used?

I say it takes around 200 Warlord battles to do it.

 

lmfao


You made me go back and look at my chart again and it was wrong. 100% of my rank 1 level 1's are upgraded to level 15 in 3 hits. This is with guardian xp boost always on.
Nov 24, 2019, 16:4311/24/19
11/16/19
1
Plarium give me back my ******* Ambusher guardians back,i had a grade 4 rank 6 Ambusher guardian,amongst others, which have inexplicably vanished
NancyAdmin
Nov 26, 2019, 13:1311/26/19
07/09/19
1870
jon said:

Plarium give me back my ******* Ambusher guardians back,i had a grade 4 rank 6 Ambusher guardian,amongst others, which have inexplicably vanished
Guardians can't disappear without leaving a sign. Most likely that you feed them to another guardian. Please contact the support team here and specify the exact date when it happened and what kind of Guardian(s) you can't find. They should be able to check this information for you in the system logs.