This is a total crock.....

I am a coiner but totally agree with others here. The change will kill any attempt for non-coiners to develop their guardians.

Not even a notice was announced which is totally unacceptable. I like to develop guardians to level 30 and leave them there util I want to make a run for weekly rankings or tournament. So I lost a lot of emeralds because of this change.

This needs to be changed back ASAP and not only that but also we should be able to retire a rank 6 level 40 to upgrade another guardian to rank 6. This would help the non-coiner because they develop grade 2's, 3's and 4's since that is all they get. Then eventually with enough time hitting warlords they might get a grade 4 and they should be able to retire a grade 3 rank 6 to upgrade their new guardian otherwise all that hard work is thrown in the trash.

spanish forum:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/390_tema-en-espanol/165672_-guardias-y-esmeraldas--plarium-quiere-que-todos-dejemos-el-juego/?post=693342

french forum:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/620_fil-de-conversation-fransais/165251_gardiens-et-emeraudes/?post=692674

next monday  instead of going to Plutonium Bar, maybe i could come over and have a drink at your place :D

An update:

It's been 11 days since I noticed that Plarium underhandedly removed the "free" Guardian rewards.

I have not spent a single dollar on the game since that day.  I continued to play Guardians and my emerald balance has dropped from 7000 to 3400 so that part of the game will end for me in another 10 days.

The next 24 hr unit revival 75% discount will start tomorrow morning and contrary to the last 50 times this "promotion" has been on I will not spend 100,000 drachmas reviving units... I would usually have stocked up on Drachma packages over the last 4-5 days to have a big balance.  Right now I have just 1500 drachmas in the bank. 

I estimate that I have saved between $100 and $150 over the last 11 days.

I hope Plarium is feeling the pain. 

Mikalosos said:

This guy, Plutonium, owns a small bar & restaurant... on Monday nights - game night - the restaurant offers a free draft beer with purchase of any meal.  The place is packed... The owner notices that he is not selling any wine on Monday nights - his busiest night of the week - so he decides to stop his draft beer giveaway which should allow him to sell more wine.  The next Monday night there is an increase in wine AND beer sales, but he notices that there is not nearly as much food sold... Many people just order a drink and watch the game.  This continues the following week but there are fewer customers that week.  Three weeks later there is only a handful of customers watching the game.

At the gym he runs into MIkalosos who was always there on Monday nights and asks him: What happened? I didn't see you last Monday...

Mikalosos: I stayed home and watched the game with my wife and had a nice home cooked meal and a great beer.  That sure beats watching the game on a small TV, in a crowded bar, eating crummy food... I just realized I was coming in every week only for the free beer.

Tonaya owned a bar,and i know what are you talking about....plarium dont know(or dont care),they think they can milk a cow as long as they want,but you cant milk a dead cow.soo many players left the game,when plarium realize it,it'll be too late

Spartans, as I previously mentioned, I completely understand your frustration. We gathered players' feedback about the recent reduction of Emerald rewards and decided to double it with this release. With the release of Guardian Conquests, it became easier to level up Guardians while you still can receive  free beer  nice rewards for levelling up of your Guardians. 

Good x2 emeralds, about the new additions are making the game so complicated ... that a new player will never enter, no one understands anything.

Good evening my dear Spartans ! 

Tonight the subject is serious. Plarium has just totally blocked access to gadiens for players without or with few money. But gardiens have become over time an indispensable addition to any player trying to weigh a minimum on the game. We can't afford to have nothing against this kind of bonus. https://prnt.sc/pk95rc

To return to the fact, the emerald gains during the improvement of the gardiens to the maximum level has been greatly reduced starting from the rank 4. With 25 emeralds instead of 100; 50 instead of 200 and 125 instead of 500, it is now completely impossible to do anything except (and we always come back to the same stage) for big goldeurs.

All players know a minimum, know that it is necessary to recharge its energy level with emeralds to be able to make poins and therefore evolve its various bonuses. Since the gain of emeralds is reduced to almost nothing, it will be impossible to make the action profitable.

For nothing to hide, I planned to put the package on the goalies very soon and because of this novelty (besides not announced before) it will be impossible for me just like 95% of players. A huge disappointment prevails since the gardiens are a particularly strategic aspect and therefore interesting in the game. I had fallen "in love" and tonight it's a big blow of stick. And I'm certainly not the only one who thinks that. This screen shows that I have already done "things" to the guards and without putting a dime. This is not the score of the century but with a limited time, it's not bad and I'm pretty proud of it: https://prnt.sc/pk9cdr

Then the disappointment gave way to frustration. It is a real new thrust that we plarium in our back, without telling us anything. This game is constantly coming to an end because of the surplus of mandatory options to move forward.

That's it, as plarium is not about to express itself I ask for an official answer here. However I know very well that I would never have because the players who take care of the forum (especially the French) are soft and do not know anything. For once try to earn your salary of 5,000 drachmas a week and move your ass good god! Activate you too!

The main purpose of the message, and this is where I appeal to all of you, is to support the idea that it is unacceptable that this change has happened. I beg you, put a little message of support here or elsewhere but do something because it is also for all of you that we are mobilized! Everyone has the right to play, whatever their side or their ideas!

I tell you very clearly, other players will stop and the game will become even tasteless and boring. If this problem is not resolved, I would think about my personal case too.

Thank you to continue the following. 

Best regards

The change to Guardian rewards is unacceptable. 

Plarium just took away one of the only aspects of the game that was open to non-coiners.  

Plarium's brainstorming: We're not selling enough caviar... It must be because people are eating too many potatoes.  If we raise the price of potatoes maybe they will start buying caviar instead?  Duhhh...

I HATE BEING TREATED LIKE AN IDIOT... IF YOU SHOW NO RESPECT TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THEY WILL RETURN THE FAVOR.

HOLA SEÑORES,

Es muy lamentable leerlos, muy de acuerdo con la insatisfacción de muchos.

Personalmente me siento muy mal por que era prácticamente en lo único que a pulso se podía dar la pelea contra los grandes, es el único evento en el que me di a conocer. pero ya llego a su FIN.

con esta nueva actualización no solo nos borran del mapa a muchos, sino hace una brecha cada vez mas imposible de alcanzar entre los ricos y los que apenas podemos comprar solo en promociones. 

Quedo muy desalentado y con muy poco animo pasar de hacer mas de 40kk millones a tan solo 1.6kk  por que no tengo los recursos para competir. ¿me pregunto.... en que puedo competir ahora? ¿en que podre hacer la diferencia si quitaron lo único que me permitía sobresalir?

A este paso y con cada actualización Plarium me dice que este no es lugar para mi, con esto me dice que me vaya y vuelva cuando tenga dinero... bastante dinero para invertir. 

Aquí en esta imagen quedara un buen recuerdo que no se repetirá.

No queda mas que reflexionar si en realidad este es mi lugar o si mi ciclo en esparta llego a su FIN.

un saludo a todos. bendiciones.

Nancy is right in 1 point:

Few players   found a way to beat the system, i already pointed the issue several times  few month back and nobody( from plarium)  listened.

Few group of  5-6 players  took a 50 -100  X  guardian development lead compare to the  top 200 average player, a 500x development compare to average players

With all guardians  99%+   compare to avergae players 25-30%.

Few of us + / - 50 players try to get into the race time to time but reaching the  top 3  .50-60 mio xp is almost impossible without lot of emeralds and ress.

FAct is plarium implented guardians, but did not have figured it all the consequences.

Personally my 2 BIG concerns and  complaints are

 1) WHY THE  HELL  PLARIUM IS NOT CAPABLE TO MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS  even  24h prior a major change.

we have ingame message, we have app notifications, where is the difficulty ?

2) WHAT NEXT NOW ? a group of players (5/6)  took a 1.000.000  xp lead ( in term of guardian development).

With this new reward it is totally impossible to  close the gap  unless we put  4 times extra investment ( compare to original rewards), which is already demonstrated past 6 month almost impossible to reach.

All what i learned  from this

when you point issues you get silenced

then if necessary plarium will deny the issues

then they will tell us  for 6 monthes they look into it

and they hope you forget it, and come with  new  stuff, once more not fully tested.

As long we pour money into their hands willingly  do you think they will change their behavior ?

One fix idea  to study: get all players 5-6 most important guardians ( if not all ) class V, add  5 more ranks same concept rank 7.8.9.10 , only  level maxed can be use to upgrade and disable the  ressource / rank1  upgrade, so in mesure to upgrade you would have to do all the way up.

The players who "abused the system" (actually they figured how to maximize Guardian play) are already through the door and now you slam it in the face of those who are slower to figure it out in the name of "fairness"?  How does that make any sense?

In fact Plarium created Guardians, a very boring and annoying aspect of the game... many players ignored it for the first year until others - who exploited it - suddenly have huge advantages in every aspect of the game.  Now all players want this same advantage so Plarium takes away the "free road" and builds a "toll road" to it.  Smart strategy: create a need for something by letting some people use it for free then start charging for it.  But it is totally unethical.

I am one who "got through the door" and I have many rank 5 and 6 Guardians of every type most class 4 and 5.  I am ranked around 50 in the all time Guardian XP category. I still think it's totally disgusting to change the rules SIGNIFICANTLY after years of play.  It imbalances the game more with the only objective being to create more income for Plarium.

plarium,if you have one inactive player,or someone on holiday,and he dont attack any guardian,but all other members do play and win all......the hole coalition wont get reward because 1 inactive didnt participate in arena?

Not saying that 5 -6 players have  already a  25 times  development adventage compare to average player

top 5   1500K  point 

top 50 less 200k

top 200  les 80k 

so Unless plarium start dropping  for free holy bongs here and there,

 its over for the player that cannot afford to put 500 $ per rmonth ( which is totally insane and  ridicoulous for a virtual game) to buy emeralds and bongs.

also issue was already pointed several times few month back and plarium did absolutly nothing about it

I pointed out a long time ago that the Guardian aspect of the game is very boring and time consuming... but at least it was rewarding because you could gain significant Guardian advantages and points in both tournaments and coalition conflicts by spending a lot of time "clicking". 

They have now removed this advantage which just about ensures that only coiners that can buy guardians will bother with it.

Now Guardians are boring, annoying and will cost you real big money, basically a total garbage feature... I have built a huge army of Guardians without spending money so I can continue to use them but I pity anyone trying to get into it now.

https://i.gyazo.com/ede74b6b83cfca8cff8cc2a6fab50876.png

https://gyazo.com/529f1b91110376db7a7b844ed8c6a542

https://gyazo.com/d09b11100b495ee83781e28029687132

Expect Plarium to introduce a bunch of Class 5 Rank 6 "fully enlightened and upgraded" Guardians for sale for $599.95 since building them through the totally annoying Plarium process will be a thankless nightmare. 

Coiners want to buy victory and don't want to spend all the time it takes to earn victory!  Again all the non-coiners have been SCREWED!

The Coalition Clash event was introduced in an attempt to get us to fight our friends and allies. 

People chose not to do this, and instead start building and agreement upgrades timed to finish during the clash events. We break legendary equipment 2 days before the clash starts, and we grind our guardian levels.

We are not fighting each other as expected, so they have removed our ability to level our Guardians.

We are being forced to fight to earn points in the Clash events.

This hurts the low power coalitions who's members are attempting to increase their ability to defend themselves from heavy spenders, and destroys any chance of new players surviving in a world where the aggressive spending groups are already titans.

It is shameful and pathetic.   Perhaps they are attempting to wring all the money they can out of Sparta before they end it.

jeff hellman said:

Looked again and theres a hitch (as always with plarium) its not good folks every member has to have 1 hit on a guardian on this tournament to receive the reward, now tell us Nancy if we have 1 hit on the warlord were OK, or if a player is inactive or on holiday etc does it affect the reward for all of the members who have participated also not get this reward.

Spartans, why did you decide that you won't receive a reward if e.g one player of your Coalition is inactive or on holiday? There are 4 types of rewards that each of you can get by participating in the Coalition Arena Event. If all the criteria for this event are met, each player who participated in this Event will receive rewards according to their invested efforts. All rewards (except for energy and XP rewards) can be claimed after the end of the event only. 

The Challengers carry fantastic treasures to be won. Rewards you receive for clearing Arena Rings can be divided into 4 types:
- Personal Rewards. You receive these Rewards for defeating Challengers in the Rings. They are the same Rewards that you would receive by defeating Warlords in the Guardian window.
- Milestone Ring Rewards. These Rewards are given to the Coalition upon successfully clearing Milestone Rings. To receive this Reward, a Coalition Member must have defeated at least one Challenger since the previous Milestone Ring.
- Special Coalition Reward. This Reward is given to a Coalition that successfully clears Rings 30, 50, and 100. To receive this Reward, each Coalition Member must have defeated at least one of the Challengers during the current Coalition Arena Event.
- Rewards for Deeds. You receive these Rewards for completing Deeds from the “Deeds” sub-tab.

i dont understand anything

Tonaya

Nancy said:

Tonaya said:

i dont understand anything

Tonaya

If you have any questions about new features, feel free to ask.  It would be better to ask them under the corresponding news post for further community members convenience. 

Nancy :  .......- Special Coalition Reward. This Reward is given to a Coalition that successfully clears Rings 30, 50, and 100. To receive this Reward, each Coalition Member must have defeated at least one of the Challengers during the current Coalition Arena Event.

will we get holy summoning bond,if not all members participate in arena?

simple: yes or no ?

Tonaya