Icy said:

Greed oft o'er reaches itself said:

Most mod posts are either fawning to plarium, or the standard "clear cache archon" or "contact our support archon". Hope the drac is worth all the plarium grovelling, don't bite the hand that feeds you!

As a mod from Pirates, I can give you an explanation of the response players get on all the forums. We're given a knowledge base of the information we need to handle your concerns. When we have something we don't know we confer with other mods, that have been here longer and can help. Certain issues on these forums - alts, bots, mail/report notifications that don't go away,  purchasing problems, awol units. Essentially all technical problems that requires some sort of programming cannot be handled by us. Our job is to monitor and handle what we can on the forums. If its out of our jurisdiction our response is, yes put a ticket in with support. If we could do more most likely every mod would.

 Here's something you guys don't know, when the game crashed for a day a few months back. A mod called Plarium on the phone to let them know. We're the ones who made sure they knew right away.

And no we don't "fawn to plarium" when we have the same complaints as other players we do band together to give the voice of the players to plarium. We may have a more direct line to plarium than the average player. 

We may receive a token of "thank you" from plarium but it isn't much for what we need to do. Mods put in at least 10 hours a week of our time to cover these forums. Not including those that cover 2 or more forums. Before you guys tear into the mods and Alyona look at what we're doing on ALL  the forums. Every moderator VOLUNTEERED for this job. 

Whats a mod from pirates doing on this forum. Around 300 posts you have, but first time I've noticed you here.

So, your saying plarium didnt know their game had crashed, and supermod saved the day by informing them. Obviously they mustnt take heed of  immediate community or facebook warnings if a mod had to take to the phone to let them know.

I can only go by what I can see, which looks sycophantic to me.  Always a defence of plarium and certain posts against plarium deleted.

Since you mods only do this to help folk, I'll wait for you to decline your drachma tokens of 'thank you' from plarium.  Happy modding and good day.

To be perfectly honest, I came here actually looking for a post. One of my crew told me to look for. Wasn't given a link. and isn't online atm. 

You can't expect people to be awake at all times of day. When that call was made. We actually woke up the person we called from support. When the game crashes otherwise they handle it. Unlike FB games on plarium.com don't have the same communication. Players don't necessarily think to go to FB or Google+.  

If your post is seen as a way to cause a mutiny, striking on coining or using this or any plarium forum in away to hurt plarium. It is fair for your posts to be deleted. Consider this for a moment - you set up a forum for players, you don't charge for its use. Players are given set rules but even these set rules are allowed some leniency. (there is grey areas, that are a judgement call) Why would you desire your business to be harmed in such away where it may be detrimental to your business?  I'm not defending plarium, I'm just asking you look at it from a different perspective. 

then its clear,

guys and girls let continue now to sign this open letter and stop letting the forum mods distract us from what we intended to do: change the game for the better

we all know what is going on in game and lets continue what has been set in action and they all will soon see the ingame community is way stronger as their censorship will ever be.

i'm tired of wasting my words on these pupits (again, not flaming any1 here, so don't ban or edit the post, take some critisim for once)

so lets continue to spred the word about this open letter and continue our ingame efforts and soon enouf they will not be able to neglect us ever again
(thx for the nice story icy, but i have seen a lot of the same storys on the forum in the last year, so sorry if i don't accepts it as the full trueth, you don't represent the gamers anymore in my eyes as you all been corrupted by taking money/drachmas from plarium)

regards DES

ps: nice letter k4ne, totaly agree ;)

DoubleEdgedSword said:

mortee, my man

who is now going off topic ?

lol

not a man :P 

Dear plarium decision makers,

I would like to ask you to contact me on Skype: contact: Rott hob 

I would like to invite you to discuss some valid points and this with a select group of representatives from out our sparta community 

We can all lower communication level on these forums which is not the way to Come to a solution or an understanding.

We have a common goal which is to get the People back in game and to ensure some good game pleassure for us gamers Thanks in advance for your kind and positive reaction 

Best Regards, 

Rotterdam - House of Batiatus

Skype: Rott hob 

Exactly what i expected 

Some People dont understand how you get things done and how you can be effective 

You think with your hart instead of your brains.

This has nothing to do with coiners or no coiners 

This is a serious attempt to save our precious and beloved game.

With main goal to close the gap between coiners and none coiners and to ensure a fun game for everyone 

hundigo, this skype room is open to all coa and players of sparta https://join.skype.com/xCjGbmcOQYY9

Thanks Fortuna 

He will see that this is a community attempt and probably Come to the conclusion That some People really care 

Rotterdam Hand in Hand said:

Exactly what i expected 

Some People dont understand how you get things done and how you can be effective 

You think with your hart instead of your brains.

*SKIP*

This is a serious attempt to save our precious and beloved game.

With main goal to close the gap between coiners and none coiners and to ensure a fun game for everyone 

I act with my brain and use all the channels that are available.

You act with your heart but not your brains (because you miss the brains ? ? ) "This is a serious attempt to save our precious and beloved game."

Your line has nothing to do with brains but only with heart ;-)  your line is pure emotion .

I self had put *SKIP* for your line; " this has nothing to do with coiners or none coiners "

But your next line is about ; " With main goal to close the gap between coiners and none coiners and to ensure a fun game for everyone "

So , let's have it on the forum Rotterdam, then you can hear the oppinion of the none - coiners also ....

Or are the none coiners not allowed to have a voice to be heard  ?

Example 1 for you Rotterdam ; You are Hegemon  , but I also . 

You had to write a message to your coalition to prevent your members to spend real money on the game for the next 14 days as protest. 

I as hegemon didn't had to do that, because I simply doesn't has coiners in my coalition. 

Does that mean my meaning or opinion is not allowed, because I place my opinion on the public forum provided by Plarium Games ? I would think twice Rotterdam if you would answer.  What is your answer now that you should go to skype with Plarium Games  ?

Your opinion is allowed but i truly dont care to much about it 

You know why?

Because we opened a Skype protest room for everyone from sparta Who was intrested 

And we gathered opinions and valid discussion points to be presented to plarium 

So we received enough opinions from none coiners and coiners and allies and enemies 

Something what People do Who are serious 

synergy: Cooperative interaction among groups, especially among the acquired subsidiaries or merged parts of a corporation, that creates an enhanced combined effect.

that what we look for, collaboration between all players (spenders or not, gamers)  and game developers/plarium etc so we can improve what we have.

So i would think twice about your answer  

And think for a minute and conclude. 

Would it be wise to 

Gather intel and discuss with plarium to maybe have a chance to change something

Hob was a none coiner coalition in past 

Its Just what your goal is in game and how your recruitment is recruiting 

If you recruit on spenders and educate them in skills you can accomplish great goals and even reach no1 spot 

That is building your coa with dedication 

To the game and to your coa / virtual family 

Regards Rott 

Rotterdam Hand in Hand said:

Your opinion is allowed but i truly dont care to much about it 

You know why?

*SKIP*

Something what People do Who are serious 

Really ? How come you was never serious before ? I wrote topics, more then 4 months before...  I saw none reaction from your side..... 

I've been banned from Plarium Games for it .... also more then 4 months .... saw never of any reaction from the so called forumusers from it....

Now you are here ?  

Do  I have to repeat the difference between my lines on the forum and yours ? I can have it , even you take the last days as example. 

I can afford me to go in the clinch( even a juridiscal official clinch) with Plarium Games as company. 

You can't at all, you can only repeat for a dialogue for something Plarium Games can't reverse it at all anymore, even they would concider it self it was a totally wrong gamedecission. 

You was in the past enough on the forum Gorgo, so I don't have to enlighthen you about my opinion .  

I'm the only one that crosses that bridge against Plarium Games , but all the rest is only intrested in the result so they can have the benefits from it. 

For your example Gorgo; you have a coalitionmember that is also moderator. You gonna tell here now, you never knew he wasn't correct at all as moderator ? 

I like to coin but i see a growing rift between coiners and non coiners.  There needs to be some limitations on what coiners can do to keep this game remotely level.  There need to be some upgrades that just cant be bought.  I know you guys have to make a buck or there wouldnt be a game in the first place but i just dont see what your long term plan is with this "free" game aside from the obvious.  A response of some kind to show that you guys are human would be nice for us.  Many of us feel the same and just a few small changes would make a difference.

Marsh

Agree 100%

Alyona explained to us all (again)

K4ne said:

1) The gap between big supporters of game and small ones has become too big for the smaller ones leaving them without a reasnoble chance to compete in any aspect of the game.

2) My question to Leonidas (Administrator) is will You really do this to people that have been playing Sparta for years, promoting this game to their friends, family, on various forums and chats, will You stay blind on it and enforce terms of service on them or will You understand that something has just went wrong and fix it so we can enjoy ourselfs playing Sparta for many years to come?

3) We are here all friends or all enemies in game but in end we are all people and we are all players and supporters of Sparta, dont let us down, please.

Hi, K4ne!

1) In Sparta you can reach success even without spending money on the game. We give a lot of opportunities to receive Units, Items or Drachmas. Of course, it will take more time and more efforts.

Some players prefer spending money to get things faster. And it's normal. However, it doesn't mean that others can't play comfortably. In any game there are foes that are hard to deal with. That's why we gave you an opportunity to join Coalitions, find Allies and friends, and fight together against the stronger enemy.

This is an important part of gameplay.

2) I would appreciate it if you could tell me more about the things that you think went wrong. I will pass your feedback to our game developers.

3) We are always ready to support our players. Our developers gather player feedback after each update to analyse the new features and probably find some ways to improve them. If you have some feedback to share, or some improvements to request, you can always share your thoughts on this forum. All feedback is passed and everyone's voice is heard.

However, let's not forget that game development can't rely only on player feedback. There are also analytics data, marketing research, etc. Player feedback is a good addition to all the information we get though our internal channels.

Alyona,if Tonaya may ask you few things:

1.do you play this game at all?

2.do you know that you are talking with 2+ years sparta players here,a lot hegemons and experienced players

3.why you trying to explain to us all that we are all wrong and that all is fine and ok?

4.do you think that we all are brain damaged people with low IQ?

5.why you "moderators" threat to players that you gonna boot them from this forum,if they tell something you dont like?

you are only players who receive 2-3 k drachmas per week to help and explain new players how to play game and stuff

6.did i brake some plarium rule if i tell something i dont like about the game?

7.do you think that i'm gonna read some plarium "rules"  how to behave? we just want to play this game and have fun,like it was before you changed it from fun to "give us more money"

8.what ever i ask from Alyona,mister Basilius....on this forum,by private msgs,by mails...you didnt accept anything

9.mayby i was wrong when i ask to cut down troops building time for 50%,....when Alyona explained to me...about "balance" in game,i thought maybe i ask silly questions ,and then i realized that this is SUPER FAST game,maybe you should change troops building time from 1 hour 30 min to 1 month for single troop,maybe then we gonna have more FUN and you will have better BALANCE?

Tonaya

to answer number 1.... she already said in another forum that she only plays little in a beta one private.

then is when i suggested to listen to us but it is just not working  (the new agreements levels that has been open since them appeard)

I just seen the most insane inform.... that proves that this game is doomed unless something is done. those fighiting this days i am sure they ahve seen what dooped troops are doing now...