When pick fight ? I dont have problem with pick. But check defense team. I have a 180k team and i can win against 250k teams but i cant go ahead with over 90 percent winrate because crap 4-16 point reward system. A 180k team easy prey for the 350k teams. So i win against the 250k teams and win 4 ponts but i lost at defense team against a 350k team i lost 16 points. 4 win vs 1 defeated match and the point result is 0. Its not realy fair. I could progress in league if i buy more and more arena token.
I'm not sure I understand completely. If I get the jist of
this, you are saying you are losing arena points on defense faster than you can
gain points on offense? Is that correct? If so that's a legitimate point.
First, team power doesn't translate into arena points, so
it's not productive to talk about team power.
Second, it's also not productive to talk about what's fair
or not fair. So, I'll just try to give suggestions on the way I see it working.
What you must do is obvious, but how to go about doing it
may not be so obvious. You need to stop
losing points on defense and gain more points on offense.
I don’t lose many points on defense because most players
will not pick a fight with me. Not
because I always win on defense. My
defense win rate sucks. But no one picks a fight with me because my team looks
scary. Even if you have a very fast team
and go 2 times before I go, my team suggest you’ll have a 5-minute fight on
your hands and may lose. Speed teams don’t
like that. That’s how I prevent loss of arena points on defense.
For offense, you are still picking on teams that have 300
less arena points than you. Just after reset
yesterday I had 2900 points. My first 3
opponents were at the bottom of G3 and had 2600 points. I got 9 points total for beating all 3 of
them, then lost the 4th fight and dropped 10 points to 2,899 and
into G3. So I do understand what you’re talking about. But I don’t see this as unfair. I was in G4 and picked fights with players
that were at the very bottom of G3. Why should
I get more than 3 points per fight? I
had to be very careful and fight on offense against players were also in G4
with roughly the same arena points as I had to get a decent ratio of arena
points gained/lost. If you fight teams
with roughly the same arena points, you’ll gain or lose around 8 to 10 points
per battle. You must fight players that
are approximately at your level. And in
this case, your level has nothing to do with player power, or team power, but
only with where they are in arena. I.e.,
arena points.
Apologies for the formating.
I talking about this :
I can tell by this that your arena points are well above 3200, probably around 3300 or even more. If you beat a team that is so far below you, why do you deserve more points? If a team so far below you beats you, why shouldn't you take a larger loss?
This is odds, as in horse racing, sports betting in boxing, baseball, or any sport. If you bet on the favorite, you gain less than 1:1. But if you bet on the underdog and win, you gain more than 1:1.
If you bet on the favorite, and lose, you lose big. You were the favorite in these fights. Not because of team power. Forget about that. You were the favorite because your arena points are so far above these two teams.
I can tell by this that your arena points are well above 3200, probably around 3300 or even more. If you beat a team that is so far below you, why do you deserve more points? If a team so far below you beats you, why shouldn't you take a larger loss?
This is odds, as in horse racing, sports betting in boxing, baseball, or any sport. If you bet on the favorite, you gain less than 1:1. But if you bet on the underdog and win, you gain more than 1:1.
If you bet on the favorite, and lose, you lose big. You were the favorite in these fights. Not because of team power. Forget about that. You were the favorite because your arena points are so far above these two teams.
This is exactly what the system is doing.
In another week or two you might not see as wide of a range though, so may only see 5-15 point range in wins/losses or a 6-14 point range.
Good job finally making it @Player J !! I saw on the discord how you were having trouble and stuck down in Gold 3 for a while. For myself, I didn't see any difference in the point system from what I explained, and I had a one man defense in for a couple days to purposely drop and test it out. Still +3 to +16 on my slates, from the easiest to the hardest.
I reached Gold 4 with in 2 months of my Raiding Career.
I have been in Gold 4 ever since which is going on 2 years 10 months.
I was never struggling down in Gold 3.
The problem is the game system was bugged in Gold 4.
The developers already gave a response.
This week the game system wiggled out of its bug so I finished in Gold 5.
The previous week I was getting matched with +2 to +4 people so I couldn't reach Gold 5 due to the games system bug.
I reached Gold 4 with in 2 months of my Raiding Career.
I have been in Gold 4 ever since which is going on 2 years 10 months.
I was never struggling down in Gold 3.
The problem is the game system was bugged in Gold 4.
The developers already gave a response.
This week the game system wiggled out of its bug so I finished in Gold 5.
The previous week I was getting matched with +2 to +4 people so I couldn't reach Gold 5 due to the games system bug.
I don't remember seeing anything at all about such a bug, and I see the bug reports. I did see you could get those +2 to +4 teams at the bottom of the brackets though.
Oh, and I defintely DO see several screens in the RSL discord with you in gold 3 in 2021. So you being in Gold 4 since forever just isn't true. But maybe you took a break or had a sizeable bad stretch, IDK. :)
But anyways, congrats for joining me in G5! Good job fighting through the +4 teams!
As far as Gold 5 is concerned, I reached it & stayed in it.
Here is the picture with the reset Claim for Gold 5.
I wanted to get Gold 5 to prove that I could get it.
It proves that I am a very deadly Arena player.
After reaching Gold 5, I have come to the conclusion it is utter trash.
It will be the last time I put any effort into reaching Gold 5 again.
In 2 weeks, I spent 1,000 gems buying Arena Tokens + Arena Refreshes.
The rewards I got are Trash.
You can see them below:
Its the same trash gear I sell when I was in Gold 4.
1,000 gems to get Silver + 1 Ancient Shard + 16 Brews
I could of spent 900 gems getting a Big Ancient Shard Pack in the shop and it would of gave me Silver + 11 Ancient Shards + less Aggravation + I would of saved 100 gems
For reaching Gold 5, What other benefits do I get?
No, Swift Parry
No, Deflection
No, Avatars
No, Barrels
No, Chaos Ores
I got was 2% more base stats which does nothing.
I got Great Hall Medal amount 4 which is the same as Gold 4.
I got Magisteel 4 to 6.
Ooooooo Wow Magisteel!
MAGISTEEL IS SO AMAZING!
Oh yeah? You really think so?
Take a big wiff of this:
Magisteel max limit is 10,000.
I had max limit before Gold 5 got introduced into the game.
The magisteel change from Gold 4 to Gold 5 literally does NOTHING!
I KNOW WHAT YOUR THINKING!
Oh, Player J why don't you just forge some of your items so your Magisteel isnt maxed.
So let me get this straight.
You want me to sit there at my PC screen manually forging up to 2,000 gear pieces individually 1 by 1 to use up magisteel?
My God, what a sad little person you are.
You just have nothing better to do with your life than to sit there forging nonsense.
Go ahead tell us how you forge!
Do you play background music before forging to get yourself in the mood?
Do you do light finger tip stretching to get yourself limbered up?
Yeah, I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to waste my time forging items that I am most likely going to sell for silver any way.
The FORGING SYSTEM is broken or incomplete or both because it doesn't have a 10x or 100x forge item feature.
ARENA GOLD 5 is trash because Gold Medal amount is same as Gold 4 and the rewards are the same as Gold 4 and the 2% increase base stats is trash and the Magisteel increase is useless.
I am Player J and I approve this message.
Read this message with great care for it cost me 1,000 gems to discover the information contained with in the message.
Your Welcome!
I don't remember seeing anything at all about such a bug, and I see the bug reports. I did see you could get those +2 to +4 teams at the bottom of the brackets though.
Oh, and I defintely DO see several screens in the RSL discord with you in gold 3 in 2021. So you being in Gold 4 since forever just isn't true. But maybe you took a break or had a sizeable bad stretch, IDK. :)
But anyways, congrats for joining me in G5! Good job fighting through the +4 teams!
I never took a break or had a bad stretch.
You just saying lies about me at this point.
It took you 1000 gems to make Gold 5? OMG, I'm sorry those people on discord were giving you a hard time for being in Gold 3, and you felt the need to spend that much. I'm so very sorry.
Also, making Gold 5 didn't prove to me I was "a very deadly arena player" since most of the people there did it without spending a single gem on anything. Or at least, I didn't. I just used my daily tokens on it. But maybe I am underestimating how much work you had to put into it comparatively.
I've always wondered why I can never find you on any arena refreshes, and I see it's because you are far enough below that I won't be matched with you.
If you need some help in getting to Plat or pushing plat, let me know and I'd be happy to help. I think the rewards there are worth the trouble, if you're willing to give it a shot.
I haven't hit G5, but it's only been around a few weeks. So it seems to me bragging about getting there and never falling out is not really a long term brag. Anyway,
I almost always throw up a 1 common champ defense about 12 hours after reset. When I have left my D up, forgetting to take it down, I've actually approached Plat, within a few 100 points, well over 3500 (G5 now). I would then realize how hard it was getting and take my D down, never really pushed for plat. And never ever have I spent 100 gems on arena much less 1000. I can't say i haven't hit refresh 4 or 5 times during a tournament, but that's only like 25 ems. Now that G5 is here, I may try to push for it in a few cycles, but right now it's still settling down. I don't really see any benefit to it but it would be fun to do. The last few weeks I've been taking my defense down about 24 hours after reset instead of 12. Magisteel I have trouble keeping below the max 10K anyway. And the 2% HP/ATT/DEF is not really worth it. But I do appreciate the addition as it takes all these ringers like Harbby and Quinn, gives them a reason to live, and keeps them out of my hair lol.
And tbh, if I ever get off my lazy butt and pick a better team and gear them, I really think I have the champs and probably am not far from the gear.
@Player J I understand wanting to get into Gold 5 for the sake of doing it (what was your winrate while doing it, out of curiousity) but all the complaints about having to spend 1k gems to do so because the rewards weren't what you wanted are moot because you can simply go to the Gold 5 page and see:
It's not exactly a mystery what is in there. You can clearly see there's no Swift Parry, Deflection, avatars, chaos ore or barrels. You didn't need to spend 1k gems to discover that. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.
Just because you're not forging doesn't mean more magisteel isn't useful. If you're using your silver keys every day in Doom Tower, trying to max out FW grind then that extra magisteel is going to be nice. Your experience is not going to be the same as everyone elses.
It took you 1000 gems to make Gold 5? OMG, I'm sorry those people on discord were giving you a hard time for being in Gold 3, and you felt the need to spend that much. I'm so very sorry.
Also, making Gold 5 didn't prove to me I was "a very deadly arena player" since most of the people there did it without spending a single gem on anything. Or at least, I didn't. I just used my daily tokens on it. But maybe I am underestimating how much work you had to put into it comparatively.
I've always wondered why I can never find you on any arena refreshes, and I see it's because you are far enough below that I won't be matched with you.
If you need some help in getting to Plat or pushing plat, let me know and I'd be happy to help. I think the rewards there are worth the trouble, if you're willing to give it a shot.
I work 9 to 10 hours per day 6 days a week.
I don't do Arena Battles during the week.
I don't use Daily Arena Tokens because I will not have enough time to do other stuff in Raid such as Clan Boss or Doom Tower.
Due to not doing any Offensive battles during the week, My Arena ranking can hover between Gold 3 or Gold 4.
Sometimes, my defense does well and I stay in Gold 4.
Sometimes, my defense gets beat and I drop into Gold 3.
Sunday is my day off.
Sunday is the day I begin to do Arena Offense.
I get back into my Gold 4 rank or Gold 5 rank.
Than when reset happens I get Gold 4 rewards or Gold 5 rewards.
The screenshot you have are from me dropping into Gold 3 during the week and fighting my way back up into Gold 4 before reset.
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The 1,000 gems I used is to buy Arena Tokens on Sunday because I have to make up for all the Arena Tokens I didn't use from Monday to Saturday.
I spent 500 gems on the previous week (Sunday Feb. 13) trying to reach Gold 5, but couldn't reach due to a bug which the game says isn't a bug just a strange occurrence due to the introduction of Gold 5.
I had 3,450 Points with pages of only +2 to +4.
Than I refreshed and some pages were blank as if there was no one to match me against.
It was impossible to do anything so I stopped bothering with it and stayed in Gold 4.
I spent 500 gems on the recent week (Sunday Feb. 20) trying to reach Gold 5.
The game system was better had more players to pair with me ranges of +4 to +16.
I managed to face the +16 players to get into Gold 5.
In total I spent 1,000 gems over the course of 2 weeks to get into Gold 5.
The Arena Tokens you get Monday to Saturday don't carry over onto Sunday.
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As far as you not seeing me in Arena, Their is millions of players in the game.
Your trying to find 1 person in a sea of others.
Its like finding a needle in a haystack.
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No, The rewards for Plat Arena are not worth the effort required based on the Arena reset situation.
The only way to ensure you stay in Plat is to stay up till Arena reset.
Its not practical for alot of people including myself.
I could spend a few thousand gems fighting my way up to Platinum, but than I would have to go to sleep and the people fighting in Platinum will just push me out of Platinum last 10 mins of reset.
Than I would drop down into Gold 5 to receive trash rewards after having spent several thousand gems.
It is simply a waste of time at least for me because I can't be up at that time.
With your purported team quality, why does Platinum take you a few thousand gems, Player J? What exactly is your win rate in Gold 4/Gold5 that it takes so many? How many refreshes are you forced to do searching for bad teams or one man defenses?
I mean, pushing Plat is quite difficult, I'll be the first to admit. But if your teams really are absolutely incredible, as your regular posts here state, it shouldn't take anywhere near that many gems. My teams ARE NOT incredible and I can push Plat with very little gem spending, as can @Harbby . He can speak for himself on his exact outlay of gems, but mine are always in the lower hundreds, if not below a hundred.
I'm happy to chat out my teams and strategies I use to push Plat, and I'm sure Harbby would as well. Harbby even uses go second teams. Perhaps we could save you a few thousand gems, or even some gems every week when you are trying to push into Gold 4 or Gold 5.
Curious how many times you both have finished in plat, and if it is any easier now with the change?
I've done it 3 or 4 times while I still worked nights. I haven't pushed in a while, but as of right now gold 5 is a bit of a chore.
However that could be because my Trunda was GUTTED to use her armor for my cb team.
I've done it 3 or 4 times while I still worked nights. I haven't pushed in a while, but as of right now gold 5 is a bit of a chore.
However that could be because my Trunda was GUTTED to use her armor for my cb team.
I am asleep at reset but I don't have the speed to stick in plat. I can push up whenever, but no way I could stick.