holcombjosh1 said:
Ethan said:
holcombjosh1 said:
Victory March said:
People wouldn't complain about Rotos if they had him. I'm pretty sure.
Rotos is plainly out of balance. If people who have him were being honest, and not just keeping their mouth shut because they enjoy the advantage, they would say the same. You only have to look at the platinum teams to see that he's on almost EVERY TEAM. It's not just because he's a snazzy dresser.
Someone above said "just counter him". How is that done exactly? I'll use an example in my arena queue right now:
Dutchess Lilutu
Rotos
Madame Serris
Tormin the Cold
What is your counter team to this that wins 75% of the time? If you're against an AI, and able to select the team, you should be the favorite if your gear is on par. Most of the time, this Rotos support cast is enough to delay things until he annihilates you. Can't just burst him down because first he can't take more than 50% in a hit (and gets an extra turn if he does). Need to target Lilutu to prevent the resurrect. If you have any buffs on, Tormin's wreaking havoc freezing your team. If he gets even ONE opening, Rotos can pop off and kill 2 or 3 of your team members, and most of the time you can't resurrect them.
The point isn't that teams with him can't be beaten:
I took down this team with Prince Kymar, Madame Serris, Raglin and Yannica. The problem is that he requires devoting a lot more resources to managing than any other champion right now. With the right team around him, and gear being equal, he will crush you no matter who you put together on a team. He's out of balance enough to give a strong edge.
BTW, that was my third attempt at taking that team down. Prior to that I tried things like taunts, stuns and turn meter manipulation to no avail.
First of all, your example is a top tier example where all 4 are top arena champions, not just Rotos. Take 1 away like Duchess or Tormin and it’s weaker, much weaker. Take Rotos away and it’s actually still good.
There are plenty of counters. Rotos is not void, Force DPS that goes fast or can go guaranteed like Brakus can 1 shot Rotos - because it does multi hit which overcomes Rotos passive.
My Brakus can 1 shot any Rotos and does it again on Brakus death-revive because it goes again.
There are also plenty of other block revive and ignore defence champions, and they are void. They are less common in platinum because they are harder to get and wasn’t a fusion!
Rotos and Tormin is more popular than Siphi and others like Hegemonies because they were easy fusions, probably easier to crappy Skull lord lol
Look, can we just be objective for a second here? No other champion has a kit as overpowered as Rotos'. He has incredibly good defense with his passive, AND he does fantastic damage, AND he can have many multiple turns AND can block revives. He is on virtually every top arena team for exactly this reason. His kit is out of scale with every other champion out there. Even if you own him and don't want him nerfed because you enjoy beating up everyone who doesn't have him, you have to admit that imbalance is bad for a game like this.
You are the one not being objective. I been Platinum for ages without Rotos, and without any OP champions except Arbiter (free).
First, Rotos is magic affinity and attack based champion. Hello weakness. He is not in every top team. If you look, Tormin and Arbiter are In just as much. Guess what: They were all easy to get champions!
Rotos: fusion (easy one too)
Arbiter: free to play missions
Tormin: fusion (not sure if easy - didn’t play)
Look at the real OP Void (yes you know what void is yes?) champions. Like Siphi and Venus and Ithos and Baron. Guess why you only see some teams with them? Because you need 1000s of void shards to get them.
Take some examples:
1. Baron AOE all enemies and ignore shield and block damage
2. Venus AOE applies both def down and weaken
3. Hegemon goes first guaranteed and AOE attack down and block cooldown on all abilities lol. I mean that there is already game over for most teams.
How are these and other void legendaries any less OP? It’s just you don’t face them that much.
In fact there are plenty of top combos that don’t run Rotos:
1. Ally Attack together combo: rotos A1 is too weak
2. Speed nuke combo: roto no AOe
Rotos also has trouble with force champions (watch it do like no damage) or high health champions like Krisk or ally protect. If you have any of these: force, high Hp or ally protect or just being faster lol, it’s enough to counter. He is just a magic attack champion...
THE reason why people loose to Rotos is because they are LAZY. They gear their characters for arena and CB/dungeon the same. Arena needs HP and crit damage in current meta, not defence or attack. If you have enough health, you can survive these big attacks. If you are the correct affinity, he does almost no damage.
Also, to further show why Rotos is not OP: he can't carry you in arena.
Have you ever seen a weak team with Rotos in Platinum? No, you see Rotos surrounded by equal or better champions like Siphi, Tormin, Hegemon. But have you seen weak as crap teams carried by Duchess? Yep - Duchess + Kael and Zargala is enough sometimes if you are fast and crit hard. Now you compare the champion cost (in shards) of Duchess (spirit), Kael (starter) and Zargala (force) against the combos out there ... That is why Duchess is OP, but Rotos is not. He has zero team work abilities, Rotos is a good dps add if your team is strong; not vice versa. But so many other void champions can do the same job or better.
P.S. They lost not because of lack of Rotos, but because of no Duchess