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30 окт. 2024, 14:1030.10.24
16.11.20
1169
kramaswamy.kr

I wonder what participation in Siege is like for the majority of clans. I can say that ours basically ignores it.

seeing that the red dot from it has become a permanent annoyance, ive almost missed participation a couple times now.

30 окт. 2024, 14:2630.10.24
19.12.19
6504
kramaswamy.kr

I wonder what participation in Siege is like for the majority of clans. I can say that ours basically ignores it.

Really? I think it is considered the most important part of game by active players. Your clan must be even more casual than I thought 


30 окт. 2024, 14:2930.10.24
19.12.19
6504
evilized6666

seeing that the red dot from it has become a permanent annoyance, ive almost missed participation a couple times now.

I really don't understand this fascination with the red dot. Am I the only with so many red dots that I don't notice it? And even I did, how would it bother me or make me miss siege?

Genuinely dumbfounded...

30 окт. 2024, 14:4130.10.24
16.11.20
1169
Trips

I really don't understand this fascination with the red dot. Am I the only with so many red dots that I don't notice it? And even I did, how would it bother me or make me miss siege?

Genuinely dumbfounded...

miss it because ive learned to ignore the dot. So i dont realize when it is actually going on.

30 окт. 2024, 15:0930.10.24
25.06.20
6753

The frustrating part of it for me is that I have by far the strongest teams, so it makes sense for me to save my keys for the hardest battles, ie the ones on their stronghold, but to do that, I need to wait for the path to be cleared out, which often happens pretty late in the siege, and it's very easy for me to just forget to use them as a result.

30 окт. 2024, 15:3130.10.24
19.12.19
6504
kramaswamy.kr

The frustrating part of it for me is that I have by far the strongest teams, so it makes sense for me to save my keys for the hardest battles, ie the ones on their stronghold, but to do that, I need to wait for the path to be cleared out, which often happens pretty late in the siege, and it's very easy for me to just forget to use them as a result.

Thankfully the top notch in-game clan communication enabled by chat facilitates this coordination... 😆 


30 окт. 2024, 17:5330.10.24
16.12.21
1317

Facing a level 15 clan with 30 members, all of them active within the last 48 hours,

and they had several empty posts 'cause i guess they just couldn't be bothered.


My own clan is currently at 27/30 with 1 inactive, and we managed, after much nagging and badgering, to fill every post, but it also took nearly all the reserves teams to do so.


In other words, participation in siege has been consistently going down, and it ain;t gonna get better without any changes on Plarium's end. 

30 окт. 2024, 17:5930.10.24
19.12.19
6504
MooredRat

Facing a level 15 clan with 30 members, all of them active within the last 48 hours,

and they had several empty posts 'cause i guess they just couldn't be bothered.


My own clan is currently at 27/30 with 1 inactive, and we managed, after much nagging and badgering, to fill every post, but it also took nearly all the reserves teams to do so.


In other words, participation in siege has been consistently going down, and it ain;t gonna get better without any changes on Plarium's end. 

Other than eliminating the tanking ability (is plarium aware of this?) what else needs changing? I know I'm forgetting something 

30 окт. 2024, 18:0530.10.24
30 окт. 2024, 18:08(отредактировано)
16.12.21
1317

The other team getting a huge advantage if *your* clan upgrades stronghold.

Costs of repairs being WAY too high.

Terrible match-ups.

Inability to communicate to clanmates without getting them to use 3rd party apps.

Infinite red dots, though I agree with you on that one. Otoh, I suspect you and I spent more time in-game and aware of whats going on minute-to-minute than the average clanmate


Edit: Well, maybe not *your* cluster, but a non-top 100, less competitive clan

30 окт. 2024, 18:4030.10.24
19.12.19
6504
MooredRat

The other team getting a huge advantage if *your* clan upgrades stronghold.

Costs of repairs being WAY too high.

Terrible match-ups.

Inability to communicate to clanmates without getting them to use 3rd party apps.

Infinite red dots, though I agree with you on that one. Otoh, I suspect you and I spent more time in-game and aware of whats going on minute-to-minute than the average clanmate


Edit: Well, maybe not *your* cluster, but a non-top 100, less competitive clan

Ya, I forgot about repairs. I think we've been ignoring  and we're lucky enough not to upgrade.  The ability to tank so easily has to be the matchmaking issue. 

Matching winners with winners and losers with losers  would be helpful.  I mean there is 100 things they could do, any would be better...


30 окт. 2024, 19:1430.10.24
30 окт. 2024, 19:19(отредактировано)
16.12.21
1317
Trips

Ya, I forgot about repairs. I think we've been ignoring  and we're lucky enough not to upgrade.  The ability to tank so easily has to be the matchmaking issue. 

Matching winners with winners and losers with losers  would be helpful.  I mean there is 100 things they could do, any would be better...


But also have a matchmaking filter for upgrade levels.

A *lot* of clans would stop having the issue of it being a DISadvantage to upgrade your stronghold if it meant only going up against other clans with the same level.



I've often thought matchmaking should deal with win/loss streaks;

Say you lose a match. Your next match up will ONLY be against someone else who lost thier last battle.

Then say you lose that one too. Your *next* match will only be against someone else who lost 2 in a row. Then you lose again. Your next opponent will also have lost 3 in a row.

You win, you're back to facing someone who broke their own streak, whether it was a winning or losing one

And so on and so on

30 окт. 2024, 19:2230.10.24
07.12.20
121

We seem to have around 50% participation, which until last week was enough for us to get a win

but as it takes nearly all our reserve teams to fill empty posts it begs the question why on earth wud we ever upgrade any of the buildings, makes florins pointless and all of plariums future plans for expanding the base completley pointless and irrelevant

30 окт. 2024, 19:2630.10.24
16.12.21
1317

Oh, clan leaders/deputies being able to move/remove teams during defense set-up.

Though that one wouldn't be an issue if communication was an option.


Baffling that we have better options to get ahold of someone here on the forum than in-game. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
30 окт. 2024, 20:3530.10.24
24.06.19
2527
Trips

I really don't understand this fascination with the red dot. Am I the only with so many red dots that I don't notice it? And even I did, how would it bother me or make me miss siege?

Genuinely dumbfounded...

Yes.  The rest of us normal folk have no red dots. 

30 окт. 2024, 20:3630.10.24
17.10.20
40

Ну что же......Вы ввели режим для пвп...Осада...как по мне очень интересный...но....но...но...

Я уже устал выступать этаким попугаем....про то куда и зачем и почему надо заносить ресурсы с Осады....Ладно...сферы маны...их и нафармить проще...и расход личный часть режима...пусть....куда хотят туда и суют....

Но....боже мой...зачем Флорины обычным мемберам.....Гараздо проще афтоматом их скидывать в Банк клана(ведь вы сами придумали, что их нельзя копить вне клана....) и позволить Клан Лидеру и офицерам их тратить....Это и логичнее и убирает кучу проблем и вопросов....Вы поймите....КАЖДОМУ не обьяснить зачем...куда и почему надо эти Флорины скидывать.....Тем более не заставить это сделать......Фармить их не просто...а надо их просто..ТОННЫ....Исправьте пожалуйста...хотя бы по Флоринам.....

Теперь про наше всё.....

Обьясните мне....вминяему человеку....что это за баланс такой.....у Вас....Что 8 Осад мы всем Кланом потели....копили Флорины, чтобы Апнуть на 2й лвл и отремонтировать Замок.....А за это нам в награду....Соперника уровнем на 2 головы сильнее (обьективно...у них 4 пробеды из 8 Осад....у нас 2 из 8........это минимум в 2 раза.....). Которому ВЫ ещё и дарите КАЖДОМУ по ДОПОЛНИТЕНЬНОМУ СВИТКУ АТАКИ И РЕВАНША......Где здесь баланс???

(Ваши ауры Замка настолько слабы....что я бы навсегда от них отказался и согласился на эти дебафы за ДОПОЛНИНЫЙ СВИТОК АТАКИ КАЖДОМУ....обьективно...это слишком не равноценный размен.....)

Вы нас связали...А противнику выдали Дробовики....Естественно эти ребятки в 10 персонажей сломали нам Замок(ремонт 5к Флоринов....большое вам спасибо...) и Святилище....Это нам награда за труды???....Если Да...то Очень странная.....И врятли награда.....

Я понимаю, что режим новый и это пвп...тут сложно отбалансить......НО....и вы поймите, что нельзя.... настолько.... усилять одну из сторон, которая и без этих усилений...победила бы нас с лёгкостью......Это не нормально......



ShortOnSkillzModerator
30 окт. 2024, 20:3730.10.24
24.06.19
2527
dax

We seem to have around 50% participation, which until last week was enough for us to get a win

but as it takes nearly all our reserve teams to fill empty posts it begs the question why on earth wud we ever upgrade any of the buildings, makes florins pointless and all of plariums future plans for expanding the base completley pointless and irrelevant

Hard to enjoy a clan based system when there is no real method of comm baked into the game.  And of course the economy still hasn't been fixed...

ShortOnSkillzModerator
30 окт. 2024, 20:3830.10.24
24.06.19
2527
Trips

Ya, I forgot about repairs. I think we've been ignoring  and we're lucky enough not to upgrade.  The ability to tank so easily has to be the matchmaking issue. 

Matching winners with winners and losers with losers  would be helpful.  I mean there is 100 things they could do, any would be better...


What kind of participation do you figure you'll get once people have Lamasu?  Feral gear is pretty weak IMO so that leaves clan gold and a primal shard.  Which is nice of course but I won't beat my brains out over it. 

31 окт. 2024, 02:5231.10.24
25.06.20
6753

Couple of things that would help at least get the people who *want* to participate to be able to:

1) On defensive teams: let the clan leader/deputies choose where reserve teams go, instead of having them be auto-assigned

2) If people don't set up reserve teams, have the system automatically place their most-used classic arena team (NOT their defense team on classic arena, as that is often just tanking teams)

3) If people don't use their offense scrolls, X amount of time before siege ends (say, 8 hours before), the system automatically chooses their three most-used tag arena offense teams and allows clan leader/deputies to fight on their behalf using those teams

I doubt any of this will happen, but hey, one can dream.

31 окт. 2024, 07:4931.10.24
14.09.20
1006
Trips

I really don't understand this fascination with the red dot. Am I the only with so many red dots that I don't notice it? And even I did, how would it bother me or make me miss siege?

Genuinely dumbfounded...

Yes...

31 окт. 2024, 09:0031.10.24
19.01.21
647

I don't understand the matchmaking. We won our very first, though not by much. The 2nd was a loss but fairly close. Since then, we've been getting absolutely crushed. We're currently vs an opponent with 3 wins to our 1 and 3x times the points to our 1k in the current one because no one even bothers any more, and still the game apparently thinks that hey, we should advance this clan into tier 4 next week because they are doing so well, because apparently we managed to get 659 ranking points somehow despite consistently losing big every siege round with barely anyone even participating.