Well most of the problems I mentioned are agreed to be negative. Some people just have some... Opinions they'd like everyone to know about.

Opinions aren't a BAD thing, they're generally a good thing that allow people to get better perspectives and understandings.

They problem is the manner in which they are conveyed often here.

If the original commenter who started this childish back-and-forth (of which I also take part of course) had said "well imo the amount from the tournament definitely wasn't too much, like it'd still take a decent while to progress far as a newbie" then I would've probably responded differently.

The more hateful tone they actually used made me a lot less likely to consider their opinion.

Unfortunately many people on here - including myself at times - will say their opinions as if they are fact - and then try to find any way possible to defend them - regardless of how ridiculous it gets or how many times they're proven wrong.

With regards to the matchmaking idea you suggested in your previous comment, I unfortunately think matchmaking is kinda too complicated for any small simple set of rules to govern properly.

"Back in my day", matchmaking was based almost exclusively off XP, which didn't allow easy tanking but came with some significant drawbacks, as is why it was changed.

Gasp! Could it be I see signs of this (cough.. cough) captivating off-shoot discussion finally coming to an end? ;-)

Judging from their (Plarium) post on the main page, I'd say they aren't going to fix what is making everyone mad. Horrible matchmaking, terrible tournament rewards, and overpowered bots.

I like this game and don't wanna see it fade away, so the best advice I can give the developers would be "Develop it as if you were a player rather than a developer."

I don't like the most of the changes to the tournament. Not all of them are bad like capping battles at 8 a day. That makes sense for everyone to play the same amount of game. I also really have no complaints about a-coins and credit payouts either. My biggest issue is being so reliant on team wins in a scoring system that ends up making everyone out for themselves.  I don't have a solution but it's a big enough problem that it has changed mech arena from a 5 star game to a 3 star.  Because at least for me tournament is what I played most.

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Yea F#@ THAT. I know it'll just be harder on me, but I would rather grind through the losses and not make any headway on climbing ranks, then sp drop or tank. The only exception to sp dropping is when I want to use a weapon in my inventory that's not as upgraded. That's it. That bs with tanking especially is ridiculous, when you have mates that rely on you. (Assuming of course they're playing at their best and not just using you for fodder...)

Congratulations, you took a good fun game and with 1x tournament turned it into a pure pay to win game. Thumbs up1

It pisses me off, after 14 battles, 3 f#@king wins, while most of the enemy teams had that ONE guy that gets 20 kills while everyone else gets 2 or 3 kills. Maybe the best on my team would get 11 kills. 

I know I'm not a great player competitive wise, and there are many here definitely better, but I play well and try not to make mistakes in game, but with the pay to win and cheating going on, it's no wonder my ranking in tourney is still at base, and getting ahead is a waste of time. 

In my experience the matchmaking is just hideously bad.

I'm 12-14k sp, and a few days ago I had a tourney battle, with these as my teammates:

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So in other words not exactly great, but shouldn't be a huge problem as long as our opponents aren't that strong. What were are opponents? 

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Hmm. Yeah that's not very winnable is it? Not one of my opponents is even close to my level - or the level of anyone on my team for that matter, and my teammate 1 is half my sp and teammate 2 is only my sp (or just over).

If you couldn't tell, we uh- we lost.

All the people who are facing overly strong opponents, what tournament rank / level are you at? I ended at Expert level last tournament (after forcing myself down from Master which was unplayable), so started this one at Professional. 

In this tournament my matchups in Professional were either okay or (sometimes) unfair for my opponents. I'm now at Expert level and things are balancing out. I'm facing opponents that are more or less my level. So my experience has so far been okay, and matching the expectation that eventually all players will find their right brackets.

However, my win rate currently exceeds my loss rate, and since Plarium hasn't changed anything fundamental about tournaments in this patch, I am quite certain that (once again) I'll eventually find myself in a tournament bracket that is too high for me and I will have to deliberatlely lose some games so I can stay at my true bracket (which really sucks in so many ways). 

It's possible some of you are already at that stage and that is why your experiences are what they are.

P.S. - Regarding deliberate losses, in case anyone is wondering, I only elect to deliberately lose those games in which I have no human allies.

P.P.S. - Deliberately losing at that stage became necessary. Trying to win but losing often means you get 0 or -10 points, not enough to offset the winning points, meaning you might rise even in a bracket that is too OP for you. I've not reached that stage yet in this tourny so let's see if that experience changes.

You only won 60? I average 20/match x 8 .....Sounds like you math is not working or you were leveled up against stronger competition

I was confused about the "60" but then realized you were talking about the original post. The OP was actually regarding iteration 2 of the new tournament format. That was the iteration where they made the bots overly strong and halved acoin rewards for each position in game results. The latest iteration (iteration 3) is what the latest messages are about.

I said in my post I was only able to earn ~60 acoins in the first day of the second season of the new tournament system, and compared it to the original 406 I received in the first season. This was the first day so I had little time to progress into a bracket that was too strong. Mostly it was due to either losing horribly to either a full squad or group of generally overpowered opponents, or winning and not being powerful enough to be placed higher than like 3rd (sometimes 2nd) on the team

At the time I made the comment (yesterday) I was master I, about a third of the way and had had some properly bad matchmaking luck. At least half the time I want to say it's actually OK and the loses aren't totally on-sided. Sometimes it just is that way, like also recently I was put up against 3 _apx_ players, including 2 yt guys xeer and hypho, with just a bunch of randoms (and most of them not strong) on my team.

I'm still fairly new to the game, but even I can tell that some matches feel way tougher than others. I'd really like to see more balanced matchmaking so games feel competitive rather than decided before they even start.