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1 верес. 2016, 01:0001.09.16
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there is no in-game advertising. why pump up the numbers like that?



1 верес. 2016, 06:2601.09.16
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IronApex Turok said:


there is no in-game advertising. why pump up the numbers like that?



They do have their own advertisements all over the place though. "come join millions of other players" etc... sounds better than come join a fraction of that.



1 верес. 2016, 07:5801.09.16
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Gadheras said:




How many that left an user account with Plarium games over the past x years

It's a natural thing for all games. There are some players that play from the start till the end of the game. But for many players each game is a certain period in life. Games change, tastes change, interests change, people that you play with change, etc. 

P.S. I don't know how many daily players we have. This information is confidential. 


2 верес. 2016, 14:3802.09.16
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By looking at the tournaments and such - The guess of 2000 active players is in the ball park .
2 верес. 2016, 14:4302.09.16
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offcenter said:

By looking at the tournaments and such - The guess of 2000 active players is in the ball park .
That's very far from reality We have much more active players.
2 верес. 2016, 16:0802.09.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

offcenter said:

By looking at the tournaments and such - The guess of 2000 active players is in the ball park .
That's very far from reality We have much more active players.
well you did say you didnt know the numbers. For stormfall on this server, I doubt there is all that much more though.
2 верес. 2016, 17:0002.09.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


offcenter said:


By looking at the tournaments and such - The guess of 2000 active players is in the ball park .
That's very far from reality We have much more active players.

i dont think so.  average 100 members per league, 20-30 inactives per league.     and a player isnt considered active til they are level 60+  anything lower is just playing farmville.



2000-3000 sounds about right. 
2 верес. 2016, 17:3102.09.16
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IronApex Turok said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


offcenter said:


By looking at the tournaments and such - The guess of 2000 active players is in the ball park .
That's very far from reality We have much more active players.

i dont think so.  average 100 members per league, 20-30 inactives per league.     and a player isnt considered active til they are level 60+  anything lower is just playing farmville.



2000-3000 sounds about right. 
I think the biggest bulk they make from people spending is, players that register get hooked on the game, spend cash to try get ahead, then find out they just wasted a lot of cash for no reason and then quit playing. I call that swing-door players.
2 верес. 2016, 19:4302.09.16
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Gadheras said:


I think the biggest bulk they make from people spending is, players that register get hooked on the game, spend cash to try get ahead, then find out they just wasted a lot of cash for no reason and then quit playing. I call that swing-door players.
Yep.  even the coiners army's are a lot smaller these days. 
3 верес. 2016, 15:3603.09.16
3 верес. 2016, 15:39(edited)
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Right now, around 20 hours into pvp tournament, with 1 point I am 1442nd. I think it speaks volumes about state of this game.
3 верес. 2016, 16:5803.09.16
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looking over the last year in this game the players leaveing is running at 30%

  i would say no more than 6500 players on here full time 

you only have to look at all the dead castles to see this game is dieing fast 

12 months from now i think it will be gone 

i only play to be on here with friends as soon as that changes im off

 i  dont coin any more as the game is so unbalanced 

4 верес. 2016, 18:4304.09.16
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trevor777 KOCII said:

looking over the last year in this game the players leaveing is running at 30%

  i would say no more than 6500 players on here full time 

you only have to look at all the dead castles to see this game is dieing fast 

12 months from now i think it will be gone 

i only play to be on here with friends as soon as that changes im off

 i  dont coin any more as the game is so unbalanced 

I think you hit the nail on the head.   There isnt any place for a  low to mid coiner. Either you drop big bucks, or you dont compete. 
5 верес. 2016, 07:0605.09.16
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IronApex Turok said:


2000-3000 sounds about right. 
We have more than 30 Leagues 
5 верес. 2016, 08:5505.09.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:


2000-3000 sounds about right. 
We have more than 30 Leagues 

How many leagues got becons? How many leagues got more than 1 becon. How many leagues got a fortress at x level, mebers that havent logged in, in weeks and so on ? Should be all metrics Plarium sitting on right?


Number of leagues doesnt really matter or mean much. Active server population would say a lot of the state of the game, but that is a number being tucked away as a secret. You could think that would just mean the state og the game is not that very good. Other mmos and games out there have no problem reveal such numbers, I don't understand what the big deal is tbh. level. How many leagues got majority of their members logging in daily. How many leagues dragging along members that havent logged on in a long time?


When things start to slide, the right approach would be to start look at what is going wrong, and then try turn things around. Slap the remaining players in the face with more "spend" items, not really the solution. We the players is in no position to fix such. You wont get players to start spread the word about come play this great game, when they feel its not. Many of those that been playing for a long time now see the writing on the wall. We see it from players stopping loggin in, less activity  in leagues and so on. 


The sad truth is, quite a lot of us just stick around because we invested to much time and effort into it already and still got some friends left in the game. Even that will just last for so long. 



5 верес. 2016, 19:4505.09.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

IronApex Turok said:


2000-3000 sounds about right. 
We have more than 30 Leagues 
i think that is more in favor or my argument than yours.   you do have more than 30 leagues. but most of them are dead just like all the dead castles. 
6 верес. 2016, 18:4206.09.16
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IronApex Turok said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:



Anyway, I don't think we can persuade each other, because 

a) you don't know how many active players we have,

b) I don't know either.  Considering the amount of VIP players we have I can tell you that we have more than 2-3k active, but still I can't share any numbers.
Either you know.....or you cant share numbers.  which is it?

I rather want to know what the criteria is to be a vip member is. and how they get selected. on another note, I rather be a nobody than a "very important person". But alwayus curious what these players bring to the game that the rest of us doesn't,



8 верес. 2016, 09:4808.09.16
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Gadheras said:

Frankly, you would be better off give that as a perk to players after they reached x time in the game. (active playing). And rather rename it to "veteran" or something like that.  how it is like now it just seems to promote discord between players.

It's not the only factor, and there are probably even more of them. As for the long-term players, our devs are considering the idea to add some other rewards.
21 верес. 2016, 09:2121.09.16
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IronApex Turok said:


i wasnt even participating.   i guess so few people participated it didnt take a lot points to rank that high. 
I guess that's the point of the Tournaments - to be a background event and reward players just for their everyday activities 
21 верес. 2016, 10:3221.09.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

IronApex Turok said:


i wasnt even participating.   i guess so few people participated it didnt take a lot points to rank that high. 
I guess that's the point of the Tournaments - to be a background event and reward players just for their everyday activities 
I noticed I ranked much higher in the dragon thing, and Im not doing anything more or less than what I use to do. So I can only draw the conclusion less is doing it.
21 верес. 2016, 12:5521.09.16
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One game I play periodically culls the inactive accounts- i.e. those who have not logged on in over 6 months to make sure that the player base is competitive. It is now over 10 years gameplay and counting so must be doing something right.
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