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Sep 23, 2022, 15:2909/23/22
12/19/19
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Matrim

1.) Stil getting better equipment or running in minotaur or saving the energy for fusion events

2.) It is the only *safe* way to get a 6* awakened champion of YOUR choice...

1) you don't really believe 6 dragon runs is better?

2) thats like saying getting the +4 champ of your choice from a shard... not relevant... 😆 

This system benefits highly at 1 star awakening, especially for PvE.  None of this impacts anything other than platinum and maybe G3/G4 tag for PvP.  Again no big p2w advantage.  The same teams I can't beat now, I still can't beat.  Just even easier to spot...

This is far more useful to the entire player base then the dupe system/empowerment.  I don't even have a +1 champ, and haven't sold any dupes yet. 

Sep 23, 2022, 19:3909/23/22
10/15/20
869
Trips

1) you don't really believe 6 dragon runs is better?

2) thats like saying getting the +4 champ of your choice from a shard... not relevant... 😆 

This system benefits highly at 1 star awakening, especially for PvE.  None of this impacts anything other than platinum and maybe G3/G4 tag for PvP.  Again no big p2w advantage.  The same teams I can't beat now, I still can't beat.  Just even easier to spot...

This is far more useful to the entire player base then the dupe system/empowerment.  I don't even have a +1 champ, and haven't sold any dupes yet. 

I agree it is worth the energy, but question 1 star awakening for non legos being 'highly beneficial'?

The only significant 1 star i have seen is smite?

Sep 23, 2022, 19:5909/23/22
06/25/20
6641

Cruelty is also good, since having multiple let's you stack it to full effect (I assume)

dthorne04Moderator
Sep 23, 2022, 20:0409/23/22
12/30/20
6039
Trips

1) you don't really believe 6 dragon runs is better?

2) thats like saying getting the +4 champ of your choice from a shard... not relevant... 😆 

This system benefits highly at 1 star awakening, especially for PvE.  None of this impacts anything other than platinum and maybe G3/G4 tag for PvP.  Again no big p2w advantage.  The same teams I can't beat now, I still can't beat.  Just even easier to spot...

This is far more useful to the entire player base then the dupe system/empowerment.  I don't even have a +1 champ, and haven't sold any dupes yet. 

Pretty much agree with all of this. Even outside of Brimstone there's a few ways to speed up content in PvE (Hydra, yay), make some content more stable to grind, so on and so forth. 

With regards for 1* non Legos and significance: Cruelty, Crushing Rend (depending where you're using it), Hero's Soul, Faultless Defense and Phantom Touch are all quite good, even at 1*. Perhaps to a lesser extent on the rares, but Cruelty and Crushing Rend are quite nice.


dthorne04Moderator
Sep 23, 2022, 20:0409/23/22
12/30/20
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kramaswamy.kr

Cruelty is also good, since having multiple let's you stack it to full effect (I assume)

Cruelty is one you typically want one champion with, Crushing Rend on the other hand we can pile up on 

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 23, 2022, 20:2409/23/22
02/24/19
7825
Trips

1) you don't really believe 6 dragon runs is better?

2) thats like saying getting the +4 champ of your choice from a shard... not relevant... 😆 

This system benefits highly at 1 star awakening, especially for PvE.  None of this impacts anything other than platinum and maybe G3/G4 tag for PvP.  Again no big p2w advantage.  The same teams I can't beat now, I still can't beat.  Just even easier to spot...

This is far more useful to the entire player base then the dupe system/empowerment.  I don't even have a +1 champ, and haven't sold any dupes yet. 

Very well said, Trips

Sep 23, 2022, 20:3009/23/22
10/15/20
869
dthorne04

Pretty much agree with all of this. Even outside of Brimstone there's a few ways to speed up content in PvE (Hydra, yay), make some content more stable to grind, so on and so forth. 

With regards for 1* non Legos and significance: Cruelty, Crushing Rend (depending where you're using it), Hero's Soul, Faultless Defense and Phantom Touch are all quite good, even at 1*. Perhaps to a lesser extent on the rares, but Cruelty and Crushing Rend are quite nice.


I picked up 1 star awakening on seer (bought from market) and went with rend, it doesnt seem that significant? but i will re-look at figures.

kram- will look at cruelty.

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 23, 2022, 20:3909/23/22
Sep 23, 2022, 21:11(edited)
02/24/19
7825
trevor.wilson

I picked up 1 star awakening on seer (bought from market) and went with rend, it doesnt seem that significant? but i will re-look at figures.

kram- will look at cruelty.

Phantom Touch is insanely good. On my DPS champs, it triggers for right around half of the Warmaster proc. So on Brutal CB it was 83k for WM and 44k for Phantom. UNM was 69k for WM and 34k for Phantom.

Jintoro is now ending the world. Dude can two key Spirit with only his damage. :D

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Helicath having Brimstone is HUGELY helpful in Robot Elevator Fortess (where it hits for 367k or something on 15) and Super Snake (where it can basically free a champ in two procs) and even is decent in CB (although it is limited to 250k in CB per meteor).

Sep 23, 2022, 21:0609/23/22
06/25/20
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dthorne04

Cruelty is one you typically want one champion with, Crushing Rend on the other hand we can pile up on 

At max level, sure. But at 1 star, you max out at 10%, while the cap is 40% on waves and 20% on bosses. So at very least you'd want two.

dthorne04Moderator
Sep 23, 2022, 21:1209/23/22
Sep 23, 2022, 21:15(edited)
12/30/20
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kramaswamy.kr

At max level, sure. But at 1 star, you max out at 10%, while the cap is 40% on waves and 20% on bosses. So at very least you'd want two.

Well, the issue here is that Cruelty doesn't stack, so almost always past one champ with it, just seems like a wasted blessing. 

Sep 23, 2022, 22:1409/23/22
06/25/20
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dthorne04

Well, the issue here is that Cruelty doesn't stack, so almost always past one champ with it, just seems like a wasted blessing. 

Except at one star, where it must stack to 20%?

dthorne04Moderator
Sep 23, 2022, 22:5609/23/22
12/30/20
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kramaswamy.kr

Except at one star, where it must stack to 20%?

No, and therein lies the issue. Try multiple 1* Cruelty champs on a boss, will still just cap out at 5 hits. Whereas a champion with Cruelty in concert with Crushing Rend/Phantom Touch champions will do work. 

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 23, 2022, 23:3609/23/22
02/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Except at one star, where it must stack to 20%?

With multiple Cruelty champs, you just get to the cap slightly faster, as it doesn't stack. We've checked. You can test it yourself and see that with multiple 1 star champs, you'll only get 5 activations versus the boss between all your champs.

This MAY be useful in Hydra, as each head gets a fresh counter when it respawns, but it seems to me that most content it isn't useful to have more than one champ with Cruelty rather than Phantom Touch or nearly anything else tbh.

Sep 24, 2022, 16:2509/24/22
06/25/20
6641

That is ... super weird. Why would it specifically talk about how it can't go over 40% / 20% with multiple champions having it, if it wasn't intended to stack up? But fair enough, if that's the case, I retract my 

Sep 30, 2022, 15:1709/30/22
05/18/22
1

I put a complaint in not long after Iron twins started about the drop rate of essence & was disappointed with the response, As it does not say that on the Iron Twins descrition page, I considered it a waste of time & my rescources but persevered using paragon. 

I wondered how long it would take them to update in to stop players defeating the iron twins using Paragon. As it takes the best part of 30 minutes to defeat them using Paragon, if I had better champions I would use them. (which I'm not likely to get being a pensioner, so have limited income, they seem biased against low income players) now it is even more a waste of time.

harleQuinnModerator
Jan 24, 2023, 17:5601/24/23
02/24/19
7825

What is with all these Phishing link necros lately? Sheeeeeeesh.....

Jan 24, 2023, 18:2401/24/23
12/19/19
6301
harleQuinn

What is with all these Phishing link necros lately? Sheeeeeeesh.....

Nice to see our original thoughts on blessings bumped though... definitely a waste of time and resources... back to dragon for speed gear to make arbiter faster... 😆 🤣 


harleQuinnModerator
Jan 25, 2023, 12:1001/25/23
02/24/19
7825
Trips

Nice to see our original thoughts on blessings bumped though... definitely a waste of time and resources... back to dragon for speed gear to make arbiter faster... 😆 🤣 


440 Arbie when, Trips? WHEN? lol

Jan 25, 2023, 13:1501/25/23
12/19/19
6301
harleQuinn

440 Arbie when, Trips? WHEN? lol

I'm still around 340 I think, don't really use arbiter at all


harleQuinnModerator
Jan 25, 2023, 14:1201/25/23
02/24/19
7825
Trips

I'm still around 340 I think, don't really use arbiter at all


This seems like the correct answer to me 😂