i have my speeds set for tayrel and kael i will not screw with them cuz its tuned for cb just how i like it but i will take the advice on apoth. ive sorta been taking him for granite recently and i need to show him more love.

Edit: I wont screw with tayrel but i wouldnt mind speeding kael up a bit. hes pretty slow.

Tayrel goes first, right? Then Kael?

You mind sharing their stats/builds again?

that IS an interesting set up. I hadnt thought of it before but i kind of like it. i might use it in tag arena. Ive been making alot more progress there recently since i have more good champs. i probably wont use it in classic arena tho because the speed nuke apoth team is easier for me to get set up. i just need to fix up apoth and its ready to go. 

yeah tayrel is the first champ to go the urogrim then apoth with speed up then kael with his a3 gimmie a min ill get screen shots.

I wouldn't even try to build a speed team for the arena if I were you, especially since you're having trouble gearing your champs and selecting the ones you want to use in the first place. There's always going to be someone faster than you, and since you dont have the speed stats to make yourself faster, than just build your team to survive the nuke.. HP and DEF gear is already available to you, and most teams dont have enough ATK and Crit damage to wipe an entire go second team that is competently built.. use champions that have ally protect, increase def, DEF based damage, and use a Void as your nuker if you have one.. 

Shield sets are amazing if you're having trouble getting enough HP on your champs... build speed into your champs by all means, just dont expect to go first then you will never be dissapointed with your team..