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Sep 2, 2023, 06:2109/02/23
09/14/20
988
Fathertron

Very much agree here. Live Arena is always going to be P2W, regardless of mythical champions. Outside of that, it's nice to see Plarium continue to expand the content of the game. 

They do NOT extend the content with mythical champs. They are extending the buyable options how to engage with the same content in game.

Sep 2, 2023, 09:1909/02/23
Sep 2, 2023, 10:09(edited)
11/19/22
619
Matrim

They do NOT extend the content with mythical champs. They are extending the buyable options how to engage with the same content in game.

Well, if they aren't just a change in game mechanics and something you can play, then champs are content, full stop. Plus look how much of the overall content Plarium has extended within the past year alone. 

Honestly, I don't know why so many people on the net in general get so hysterical every time something new gets added to Raid. It's just a game, and if you're enjoying it already, then you can continue to enjoy it without touching any new content if you choose so.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Sep 2, 2023, 12:1109/02/23
06/24/19
2209
Matrim

I disagree with the thought of investment. 

There is no new game content which would be investment in my opinion.

The only thing they do is adding new champions and new shards you can buy. This is not an investment and should be doable for a very low cost investment: recolor a shard, add some champions with a new set of skills....

The most invested time might be in the graphics and animation department...in which they are really top-notch....but this is not development of the game...it is development of sellable features and not gaming features....

Fair but I suppose I mean overall.  Hard dungeons ( again a bit reskinny) and Shogun both came out this year.  There is still The Great Void we don't know about yet, and an announcement of something September 5th.  Which may just be the official announcement of Mythicals.  

Sep 2, 2023, 14:4509/02/23
Sep 2, 2023, 14:53(edited)
10/08/17
1077

So Primal shards (currently only way to get Mythical Champions) can summon RARE/EPIC/Legend/Mythical champions ??????

Hellll NOOO!!!!!  I will never  buy primal shards  if I can get a rare from them...Fact check that Plarium

I guess Sept 5 we all gonna find  out whats up for the  new Raid content  going forward........actually excited about that announcement

Sep 2, 2023, 15:2409/02/23
12/19/19
6303
PriestGuardian

So Primal shards (currently only way to get Mythical Champions) can summon RARE/EPIC/Legend/Mythical champions ??????

Hellll NOOO!!!!!  I will never  buy primal shards  if I can get a rare from them...Fact check that Plarium

I guess Sept 5 we all gonna find  out whats up for the  new Raid content  going forward........actually excited about that announcement

So you are excited to be disappointed? 😆 


Sep 2, 2023, 15:3309/02/23
10/08/17
1077
Trips

So you are excited to be disappointed? 😆 


LOL....I consider you a brother :) even being in your clan for a short time :) Love  your forum posts

But personally excited about this addedf feature to the game :) All the Mythical champions look and seem super cool

check out Coldbrews co-lab with Skratch talking about these  new champs.....here with link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdIQy6nqE3o

I personally love it that I am a member of the most successful video game in the WORLD in 2023 considering I played  video games since 1986 on my Amiga computer with a wopping 500 mb   (LOL)

Its a great time to be alive and thankful I am here  now participating in it :)

Peaceout....brother Trips :)

Sep 2, 2023, 15:3909/02/23
12/19/19
6303
PriestGuardian

LOL....I consider you a brother :) even being in your clan for a short time :) Love  your forum posts

But personally excited about this addedf feature to the game :) All the Mythical champions look and seem super cool

check out Coldbrews co-lab with Skratch talking about these  new champs.....here with link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdIQy6nqE3o

I personally love it that I am a member of the most successful video game in the WORLD in 2023 considering I played  video games since 1986 on my Amiga computer with a wopping 500 mb   (LOL)

Its a great time to be alive and thankful I am here  now participating in it :)

Peaceout....brother Trips :)

Your perspective is 100% appreciated by me.  You are clearly the target audience not I.  

Sep 2, 2023, 16:1809/02/23
09/14/20
988
Trips

Your perspective is 100% appreciated by me.  You are clearly the target audience not I.  

I am literally in tears as this is the 3rd comment in a row where i cannot disagree with Trips...😢

Sep 2, 2023, 16:3709/02/23
10/08/17
1077
Matrim

I am literally in tears as this is the 3rd comment in a row where i cannot disagree with Trips...😢

Yes I spent 10K + on the game and only 3 key UNM CB and only 1 key NORMAL Hydra (get GuT)

whatever ...I love this game!

I am by no way a whale in this game. Clans I have been in  with members 100%FTP KILL me  in CB or other content.....that awesome :) congrats to them

Why then those same free to play got to spit on me for spending $$$ to play this awesome game so they can play for free ???????? LEFT make no sense to me.....no disrespect

Point being Yes I will BUY Primal shards for a 1% chance at a Mythical champ...........but not if I also have a chance at a RARE = no $$$ from me Plarium

Sep 2, 2023, 16:4009/02/23
Sep 2, 2023, 16:46(edited)
01/15/21
1181
ShortOnSkillz

It'll definitely chase some players away, and I agree it seems to be a soft reset they're shooting for.  I'll reserve full jugdement until we get more info but we've seen the same doom and gloom before.  Empowerment, Awakening, Gear Ascension, etc.  

Some will stay, some will go, some new will join.  IMO though at least one good thing to take away is they are still investing in development of the game.

The things you mention do affect game balance at present though?

Of course the initial comment about it being irrelevant to most ftp players applies.

Sep 2, 2023, 19:2809/02/23
12/19/19
6303
Matrim

I am literally in tears as this is the 3rd comment in a row where i cannot disagree with Trips...😢

Lmao, but I think we probably agree on 99% of things... just to make you feel worse :)  Plarium is a casino company with solid analytics running the show, could they push the envelope too far? Maybe, but everything done the last year seems to be following a solid strategic business plan.


Sep 2, 2023, 19:5809/02/23
01/19/21
642

Pushing too far is part of that solid strategic business plan. They'll increase the squeeze whenever returns are not to their satisfaction, and they are well aware that the game has an expiration date and that one day they will squeeze just a bit too hard. They have no issues with killing the game when that happens, although it's more likely they'll just abandon it and let it stagnate into irrelevance. Power creep and content to make it relevant will take more and more effort to create, and at some point it's just easier to start over with a new game and restart the drip feed.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Sep 2, 2023, 20:4509/02/23
06/24/19
2209
Trevor Wilson

The things you mention do affect game balance at present though?

Of course the initial comment about it being irrelevant to most ftp players applies.

They definitely effect balance to some degree but I dont think it's overly noticeable for the average player.  I moreso meant when this stuff was announced originally everyone got in a tizzy about how it would wreck the game.

Sep 2, 2023, 22:4209/02/23
01/15/21
1181
Trips

Lmao, but I think we probably agree on 99% of things... just to make you feel worse :)  Plarium is a casino company with solid analytics running the show, could they push the envelope too far? Maybe, but everything done the last year seems to be following a solid strategic business plan.


Stop, if i start constantly agreeing with your posts, i will have to deregister or something :)

Lets be honest though guys? this is a business - of course they want to maximize profits for the lifetime of the product and the analytics have shown that the best way to that is to milk the krakens...hard.

Sep 3, 2023, 06:4109/03/23
Sep 3, 2023, 06:41(edited)
12/09/22
119

I really would like to have the Dwarf, SKinwalker or the Sylvian Watcher one (mostly cuz i like sylvian watchers).

But they are called Mythical for a reason. Because most of us are never gonna see one, just rumors and old fishermen tales about it. 

Unironically, if raid was a playstation 1 game from the time before popularization of videos on the internet and there were mythical champs. They would be so rare that might as well call them myths in old forums

Sep 3, 2023, 12:3309/03/23
12/19/19
6303
EGDNIT

Pushing too far is part of that solid strategic business plan. They'll increase the squeeze whenever returns are not to their satisfaction, and they are well aware that the game has an expiration date and that one day they will squeeze just a bit too hard. They have no issues with killing the game when that happens, although it's more likely they'll just abandon it and let it stagnate into irrelevance. Power creep and content to make it relevant will take more and more effort to create, and at some point it's just easier to start over with a new game and restart the drip feed.

Agree 100%.

I don't feel the game is near the expiration point, so I'm actually guessing these champs will be less expensive than hypothesized by most to obtain.   But nearly impossible to get as as f2p.

To many unknown variables right now, I would love to see a breakdown of the player base by spend level. And a time series analysis of it...


Sep 3, 2023, 15:4509/03/23
10/08/17
1077
Trips

Agree 100%.

I don't feel the game is near the expiration point, so I'm actually guessing these champs will be less expensive than hypothesized by most to obtain.   But nearly impossible to get as as f2p.

To many unknown variables right now, I would love to see a breakdown of the player base by spend level. And a time series analysis of it...


I am excited for these champions added to the game. But we  know how much sacred shards cost and even soulstones. I highly doubt Primal shards will be less expensive than either of those  two

To this day I have never purchased a single soulstone from shop.  So I believe I can say with confidence I will never  purchase a Primal shard given that  they will be the most expensive with the least chance of summoning anything worth while(like RAREs)

Ever since I started doing NM/UNM cb I very rarely buy sacred shards anymore. Would  be lovely if the  new VOID thingy on the map yet to be filled  was a boss that could drop Primal shards much like  our current CB

wishful thinking perhaps :/

Sep 4, 2023, 07:5409/04/23
02/28/22
263
ShortOnSkillz

They definitely effect balance to some degree but I dont think it's overly noticeable for the average player.  I moreso meant when this stuff was announced originally everyone got in a tizzy about how it would wreck the game.

The power creep directly impacts on the Reach Gold 1 in TAG - it's been a topic for a while in my Clan but with the introduction of the latest power creep (surge) champions it's almost impossible, I've been S4 for months and the teams in there near reset are crazy I can be green until about Friday but then my FTP defence has no chance when the race to go up to G1 starts so basically as I haven't got the Taras, Georgid, Marichka it's a good bet this is my last mission.  Mythical will make TAG progression even worse than it is now

Sep 4, 2023, 10:2909/04/23
10/08/17
1077
Ratted

The power creep directly impacts on the Reach Gold 1 in TAG - it's been a topic for a while in my Clan but with the introduction of the latest power creep (surge) champions it's almost impossible, I've been S4 for months and the teams in there near reset are crazy I can be green until about Friday but then my FTP defence has no chance when the race to go up to G1 starts so basically as I haven't got the Taras, Georgid, Marichka it's a good bet this is my last mission.  Mythical will make TAG progression even worse than it is now

This is the most logical evidence presented  IMO thus far as to how these champions can affect game play

I tend to agree with this based  on my own experiences  in Silver TTA