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dthorne04Moderator
Aug 28, 2023, 16:5908/28/23
12/30/20
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Angwil

i assume Lydia can deny revive.  Will he just try again 3 additional turns later?

Would make the most sense, I think 

lydia passive goes on cooldown, monke checks for conditions of 3 turns passed and comes back like a phoenix 

harleQuinnModerator
Aug 28, 2023, 20:5908/28/23
02/24/19
7829
Angwil

i assume Lydia can deny revive.  Will he just try again 3 additional turns later?

Exactly so. Lydia is a temporary stopgap at best since her revive denial has such a long cooldown

Aug 28, 2023, 21:0908/28/23
06/20/19
2181

@harleQuinn @dthorne04 

to clarify on Lydia, her passive does not cool down once killed? I.e. if her passive is on cooldown and she is killed she can no longer deny revive? 

Aug 28, 2023, 22:3808/28/23
06/25/20
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Angwil

@harleQuinn @dthorne04 

to clarify on Lydia, her passive does not cool down once killed? I.e. if her passive is on cooldown and she is killed she can no longer deny revive? 

Correct.

Aug 28, 2023, 22:5608/28/23
06/20/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Correct.

TY

Aug 29, 2023, 06:3408/29/23
01/15/21
1181

Content creators are building this guy with damage?

I am surprised that is giving enough accuracy for arena to be honest so when i do build him i am unsure whether to go all out speed/accuracy or do a hybrid damage/accuracy build.

Aug 29, 2023, 14:2108/29/23
11/10/20
43
Shibb

Holy good god. You think that the people that missed out on UDK cry. The ones that will miss this one will be on the forums all the time talking about not having this champion. I will have to see the base stats but this guy will be on almost every single PvP team. 


I have to think that Palarium built this kit to combat PvP team designed around defense. The thing is is if you have one of these teams they are going to ban this guy all the time in live arena. Not sure if it will help much there. 


A steal buffs and block buffs for 2 turns on a 3 turn cooldown? This should shorten matches quite a bit. I guess debuffs will be everything for a while. I will be increasing the speed on my Ronda I think to try to block this champions skills as quickly as possible. I also see all of my PvP champions switching to lightening cage. 

ASH and HH have some Vids out already,, Monkey Man is Completely Wiping **SQUISHY** Teams 

harleQuinnModerator
Aug 29, 2023, 19:4308/29/23
02/24/19
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Trevor Wilson

Content creators are building this guy with damage?

I am surprised that is giving enough accuracy for arena to be honest so when i do build him i am unsure whether to go all out speed/accuracy or do a hybrid damage/accuracy build.

Accuracy build is the way.

CCs just building for damage cause nukers give clicks.

Aug 29, 2023, 19:5408/29/23
Aug 29, 2023, 19:54(edited)
01/15/21
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harleQuinn

Accuracy build is the way.

CCs just building for damage cause nukers give clicks.

Yeh to be honest, i see him as a way to finally deal with harima/taras and the other annoying champs in arena.

But i am pretty sure we are going to see very high resistance on UDK etc.

Will build this guy after gnut and yep think i am going accuracy with good speed.

harleQuinnModerator
Aug 29, 2023, 23:0308/29/23
02/24/19
7829
Trevor Wilson

Yeh to be honest, i see him as a way to finally deal with harima/taras and the other annoying champs in arena.

But i am pretty sure we are going to see very high resistance on UDK etc.

Will build this guy after gnut and yep think i am going accuracy with good speed.

Yep. He'll be the way to handle Taras and Harima for me, or get rid of the UDK protecting some other annoying champ so that I can handle the team.

Aug 30, 2023, 12:1308/30/23
Aug 30, 2023, 12:14(edited)
05/26/22
551

I have been play testing this guy even with him still at level 50 he makes a statement. He isn't the gamebraker that I hoped, but he will definately make an impact against certain teams. As noted above, accuracy is going to be your priority. He isn't worth a damn if his effects can't land. That and if he dies he comes back up with a full turn meter. One thing to keep in mind is that if the other team has champions with full turn meters, the Monkey King will have to wait his turn. This means that he can be put right back down again or have his skills blocked. 


He hits a lot harder than I would have thought given his kit. He is kind of like UDK in that regard where against certain teams you are startled when UKD does massive damage because they built him out that way. Still, when it comes to damage there are better options. Accuracy and then speed are the way that people are going to want to go with this guy. I know everyone is excited about the sheep, and it really helps, but the remove and block debuffs is probably my favorite talent of his. I suppose though that is because I don't have a great go-first team. I am sure people are looking at the Monkey King as a way to make their go-first team viable again. 

Sep 1, 2023, 14:1209/01/23
05/26/22
551

Just an FYI that Rhonda's block passive keeps Wukong down. I had two matches where I opened up with Rhonda where I hit him with Rhonda to block his skills and it killed Wukong and he didn't get back up.

Sep 1, 2023, 14:1809/01/23
06/25/20
6643

That's ... surprising. Wonder if that's a bug...

Sep 1, 2023, 14:2009/01/23
05/26/22
551

The first time I couldn't figure out what happened because I was saving an AOE when he popped back up, but didn't. The 2nd time I figured out what happened. 

dthorne04Moderator
Sep 1, 2023, 15:2809/01/23
12/30/20
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kramaswamy.kr

That's ... surprising. Wonder if that's a bug...

It does make sense due to Wukong dying as a vanilla champ with no passive, essentially. An example: Lydia functions the same if she dies with her block passives on as she wont block revives/self revive. 

Sep 1, 2023, 15:3609/01/23
06/25/20
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dthorne04

It does make sense due to Wukong dying as a vanilla champ with no passive, essentially. An example: Lydia functions the same if she dies with her block passives on as she wont block revives/self revive. 

Hm. Didn't know that part either. Good to know.

dthorne04Moderator
Sep 1, 2023, 15:3909/01/23
Sep 1, 2023, 15:40(edited)
12/30/20
6049
kramaswamy.kr

Hm. Didn't know that part either. Good to know.

👍

learned it via a Ramantu, wasnt a fun surprise when lydia didn't come back. 🥲

Sep 2, 2023, 13:5209/02/23
06/03/23
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dthorne04

Yep, and it doesn't need to be consecutive days in a row either. Just need to finish up the logins before I believe October 22nd, need to double check that date though. 

Thank you!  You're absolutely correct! It's almost creepy to me how perfect a companion for Teela, Sun is in the arena!

I have zero complaints and 100% love. 

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 2, 2023, 22:0309/02/23
02/24/19
7829
8675309

Thank you!  You're absolutely correct! It's almost creepy to me how perfect a companion for Teela, Sun is in the arena!

I have zero complaints and 100% love. 

Awesome! Glad you're having a good time using him!