As coming into 60lv, I bought the 60 pack with joy and open three golden shards, 20 void shards and more blue shards. What I got. Nothing but Air! Then I continuously bought packs thinking I was unlucky, after I opened two the most expensive packs, one spring pack and two void packs, and use all my gems buying the blue shards. what I got?  Still Nothing!!!!!! What i opened I think is far more beyond drop rate, I still got nothing. I have spent almost $500 just for a lot of trash not even got a trash Legendary. Using that money in other games, I can play like a lord, in here only got miserable experience. 

This game is like casino, they maybe give you some sweet at first, but they will use one pack after another to dry your hope and fun of game. I got a lesson before I spend much more money into it, and I know more people in my channel are worse than my situation, they spend nearly $800 without a legendary, first I don't believe it now I do. Now I won't spend a penny into this game until the situation really changed. Right now paying this game can only make the company more greedy and lazy instead of making this game better, this game has not been real changed for months, and new fusion closed with finance been better. I share this bloody experience with you raiders to remind you what await you ahead. If you get lucky now, there is an endless pit await you.

And to devs, I strongly suggest you take my advise into consideration. Just give a guarantee to the drop maybe ten you get an epic 20 you get a legendary, or players can use their uncommon/epic champs to trade for legendary/epic shards what they want, or both way. Please don't bullshit me with some small adjustment, this won't help until it real changed. And pay more mind into your undo work like faction war rather than different packs coming one and another. I give you these advise because I think this game is with potential, don't waste your effort, but this game is dying, most people in my channel they pay much less time into the game, some people have left even they pay big money. Now it is fast food game time, players have much more choice out there. If players leave, they are gone forever. Please make some difference before it's too late. OK I am done with blabla.

We all know the chances, don't get all these complains...if you are not into gambling, opening shards is not the right thing for you. It's like playing any kind of TCG, you open a booster and get the 100$ foil mythic or the 20 cent rare (that would be the case for Magic the Gathering). So please either quit the game or deal with the rules.

addmeister said:

It's like playing any kind of TCG, you open a booster and get the 100$ foil mythic or the 20 cent rare (that would be the case for Magic the Gathering). So please either quit the game or deal with the rules.

Yeah. Harsh. But:

1. This NOT a TCG game. Not even close.

2. If you referring to MtG, anyway, I easy collected there all I needed Miths without huge investmens. And I well understand and know how to get more and how much is probability for getting it. But here... here is incstant manipulations with probabiliies. For example, on 10x green rolls chances to get rare champ is much less (or even disabled) for players below 25 lvl. And for lvl50+ getting rares for 2-3 10x rolls is common.

So thats even not a RNG. Just a set of settups with probabilities.

So much to address. First off, Plarium was bought out by a large Australian casino in 2017. So take that into consideration. The very nature of these gatcha games is gambling unto itself. You don't go into a casino and complain when you run week long streaks of bad luck, but you sure love it when you hit.

I'm not sure how long op has been playing or how many shards you've opened, but it's a numbers game. I've spent probably around $600 across packs and honestly, the gems for energy refills are half the reason to buy anything in this game. 

Energy is the huge advantage in this game, not legendaries. Tons of end-game worthy rares and epics. More so than legs, really.

Instead of using all gems from packs on ancients, buy energy. Split it up. Get your good champs to 6/60. Grind dungeons for good loot - which drop ancients, by the way. 

Got Athel? Coldheart? Anyone with 3 hit a1? Farm mino for Giantslayer mastery. These are all things you can do in a small amount of time that give bigger advantages than pulling a Lugan the Steadfast.

Once you have Legendaries you realize they're still just champs. The real advantage is the ability to progress quickly. And given enough shard openings, you're bound to pull good epics and legs along the way.

You're the one treating it like gambling by totally ignoring every other game mechanic in the game while spending money. So either start playing the game actually, open more shards, or go to a real casino.

UncleNibs said:

Rng games will never change. As these threads will never change.  

Yeah, Luddites always will be. Today market offers a lot of agile solutions for soft flow of obtaining ultra rare champs. Frags of champs, events with frags, offers with frags. But still Luddites beleving what nothing will never change. For luddites - yes. For those, who goes by user friendly parth - there is a houndreds of opportunities to make their game better.

You can call it "complaines", but thats how the games are growing. Those, who not complains - they always gets only bunch of leveled to max junk champs and making a statisfied face when sitting in the middle of durt, playing not for fun but only for to login 3 times per day. All these "statisfied" guys always can be found as scavengers in every almost decoyed game, which was stopped to grow. They are still murmuring something about "no complains", "this swamp game is perfect", "no changes at all!" "never!". 

So... if you really love this game, why you here, at the forum, but not in the game, playing in such fun and interesting campigns and dangeons? Aggroing for those, who tryed to make this game better? We are not a scavengers. We are just players, who likes tasty fresh food games.

Dear Team,

I am slowly grinding up towards lvl 60 and I have to realize that the Progression Reward system is utterly rubbish. 

We got the same reward for hitting lvl 10 and lvl 50,which is only 1 rare skill tome. It is incredibly disappointing. Imagine that you are working for a company for 1 year, you got a raise or bonus, AND than you got the same when you are celebrating the 10th anniversary. How would you feel about it?!

I let it sink. Hope you will change it accordingly. 

Kind regards, 

UncleNibs said:

Rng games will never change. As these threads will never change.  

Yeah, Luddites always will be. Today market offers a lot of agile solutions for soft flow of obtaining ultra rare champs. Frags of champs, events with frags, offers with frags. But still Luddites beleving what nothing will never change. For luddites - yes. For those, who goes by user friendly parth - there is a houndreds of opportunities to make their game better.

You can call it "complaines", but thats how the games are growing. Those, who not complains - they always gets only bunch of leveled to max junk champs and making a statisfied face when sitting in the middle of durt, playing not for fun but only for to login 3 times per day. All these "statisfied" guys always can be found as scavengers in every almost decoyed game, which was stopped to grow. They are still murmuring something about "no complains", "this swamp game is perfect", "no changes at all!" "never!". 

So... if you really love this game, why you here, at the forum, but not in the game, playing in such fun and interesting campigns and dangeons? Aggroing for those, who tryed to make this game better? We are not a scavengers. We are just players, who likes tasty fresh food games.

UncleNibs said:

throwing a few Ancient and Void shards in some easier to obtain quests. But one can not simply change the % rates on shards with out huge backlash.  

Wow, now you complains about rarity of the Ancient shards! And trying to make the game better by wanting free stuff! Man, that's a progress, seriously!  Keep up the good work!

And you know, giving such tips for greedy developers of the f2p p2w game for free - that's a good start. Respect!

We all know the chances, don't get all these complains...if you are not into gambling, opening shards is not the right thing for you. It's like playing any kind of TCG, you open a booster and get the 100$ foil mythic or the 20 cent rare (that would be the case for Magic the Gathering). So please either quit the game or deal with the rules.

Ok, that was a bit harsh and I understand your frustration, but if everybody has the perfect champions or legendaries in masses we wouldnt be happy either. So yeah, the chances are slim, yet there are loads of players out there with many legendaries.

It is definetely a gamble. I have 2 F2T accounts (As far as I know, Plarium does not rule against this. If so, please notify me)

If I have a look on those accounts, it is just astonishing (they have been created with the 1st one described about 1 week younger)

Only rare and up (Note I even got double Deathchanters on 1st account and feed one of them)

1st Account:

Galek, Spirit Host, Warpriest, Elder, Deathchanter, Executioner, Hill Nomad, Pounder

2nd Account

Athel, Kael, Nazana, Shaman, Warpriest, Heiress, Draconis, Myrmidon, Rocktooth, Siegebreaker, Wyvernbane, Arcanist, Stitched Beast, Skullsworn, Sorceress, Hillnomad, Adjudicator, Gator, Mucstalker)

Summary: Yes, you could be lucky as I have been with the second account, drawing Kael as the first champion from an ancient shard (and getting some as camapign rewards), you could also be unlucky.

Btw being lucky: On my not-F2P accunt, I opened 3 golden shards yesterday: Gorgorab, Vrask, Foli....I considered myself to have a good portion of luck yesterday...