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Jun 1, 2022, 10:1306/01/22
220588
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Played a single player clan last week. We were winning 3-0 as they'd done nothing (on the bottom 3) checked 2 hours later and in those 2 hours they'd scored between 8 and 10 times more than us on all categories despite the fact we'd been going for 24 hours on and off.

I don't understand how and it just makes the whole game feel pointless as cvc is the only decent event for smaller players.

Greetings, Blackadder!
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If you have any other questions, I will be happy to answer them 😇

Jun 2, 2022, 13:1106/02/22
Jun 2, 2022, 13:13(edited)
06/21/17
1303

The opposition wants to win, and may or not know ,how you are going to perform until the competition actually starts.

The more knowledgeable the better.

Once the battle is underway you may have more idea of how things are likely to turn out and act accordingly.

Several areas of the game can be started such that they finish late,which leaves little time to try to recover the position.

If you have lots of marches,as many do,it's easy enough to send them to places such that emptying the tiles takes hours, with nothing credited till the troop returns home,and in combination with the delayed reporting, it is not that difficult to see(?)how they can suddenly go from no points to very many in a short space of time.

On top of this, if you are killing invaders/banishing ghosts,especially if they are one hit, it's possible to rack up points very quickly.

Jun 6, 2022, 10:4906/06/22
Jun 6, 2022, 10:56(edited)
09/15/15
219
Blackadder

Played a single player clan last week. We were winning 3-0 as they'd done nothing (on the bottom 3) checked 2 hours later and in those 2 hours they'd scored between 8 and 10 times more than us on all categories despite the fact we'd been going for 24 hours on and off.

I don't understand how and it just makes the whole game feel pointless as cvc is the only decent event for smaller players.

Blackadder - previously we had a similar situation - we had a good lead on invaders/farming  and our single oponent in the last few hours put on a big lead on us in troops and knowledge. As a high level player he can make high level troops + knowledge - his only limit is how much he wants to spend buying time bonuses and rss, assuming he hasn't already got enough  reserves in hand.


John: we wont be able to do any experimenting - our bigger players (chief and elders) have gone dormant over the last few weeks and we cant even wake them up to appoint a new chief, so I don't begrudge our previous oponent actively moving their bigs back and forth to max advantage. The two lv 37s did get a very impressive tally from their siege (despite the lv 40 alliance members not earning points for them). I am assuming the presence of troops from the lv 40 troops players massively  increases the power of the troops from the two lv  37 players. (I.e. the more that the jotun troops are outnumbered the greater the point earning capacity  of the level 37 players?) And naturally our oponents moved in closer to our sh during the final hours just in case we tried a siege, which I am guessing is why a lv 40 rejoined our oponent clan.

Jun 6, 2022, 20:1506/06/22
09/15/15
219

before there were jotun scouts it was relatively safe for me to scout other sieges and see what big players were doing as few people bothered to put in scouts and learn what worked. Now it is rather more problematic - esp since I dont know which jotun marches have scouts.

Jun 6, 2022, 22:5006/06/22
Jun 6, 2022, 22:52(edited)
06/21/17
1303

Assuming there is someone available and willing to eject inactive players from the clan. it may still not be enough to get an easier opponent, and my guess that might only happen if enough influence  change occurs to drop  a league, and that might not be beneficial either, it would have to depend on the rewards given in each of the leagues, and how many levels can be completed.

Final consideration, without a chief scoring there are no main rewards for a C.v.C  win anyway.

Jun 8, 2022, 15:4306/08/22
06/21/17
1303

Pipkin, have you removed a post from this page? Pretty  sure there was something about you liking to win CvC for the runic coins, which was the purpose of my third attempt at my previous post, much changed and condensed from the original version  which failed on sending.

Jun 8, 2022, 21:0406/08/22
09/09/18
8

This game is and can be played on so many levels based on a clans activeness and influence. While we all agree that the draw to this game is not only the social aspect of it but the fighting. We all want to defeat our opponents in battle but as with any successful battle there is a ton of planning and preparation. That being said, most clans that arent successful do not plan or put for the effort required to succeed at a level that they compete at. Most are too busy chasing influence to appear bigger but not necessarily stronger.


Is it fair that a 3T player can face and defeat a whole 3T singlehandedly? We have several clans that hover around the 3T influence mark to be able to participate in Holmgang that are successful in cvc. They have all done what we call the grid. Upgraded gear, gems, Helhiem, and town skins (all of these items can not be purchased regardless of the amount of money). These all make you stronger without adding an influence. If you are a casual player then you most likely are not going to beat someone that lives and breathes the viking way.

As a 3T clan we know we can not fight for the throne in JOT and hope to succeed, however we can set up so nasty trap towns to earn our soul shards to make us stronger. The whole key to this game is to have fun and use the strategy and lessons learned in defeats to make you better.

I hope for the best for everyone and am here to help in any way I can. 

Jun 13, 2022, 02:0806/13/22
12/10/17
5

CVC anouncement a day later, the only thing that changed is it took an extra day to find out we once again found ourselves facing a 1 man Russian outfit who is individually stronger than our entire clan is collectively.

as others have pointed out Plaruim doesn't give a toss about the small clans/players it's all about those who pay to play

Jun 13, 2022, 09:5306/13/22
220588
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CVC anouncement a day later, the only thing that changed is it took an extra day to find out we once again found ourselves facing a 1 man Russian outfit who is individually stronger than our entire clan is collectively.

as others have pointed out Plaruim doesn't give a toss about the small clans/players it's all about those who pay to play

I am sorry that you feel this way, Susan. In the Clans Battle, before the Competition is announced, all Clans within their Leagues are divided into pairs according to their Influence.

Pairing also depends on the level of activity of the previous Competition participants. This level is defined by the number of checkpoints reached. In the end, there are 4 groups for selecting a pair:

1. Clans that didn't earn points or earned few points and didn't even reach checkpoint 1.

2. Clans that passed checkpoint 1 but didn't reach 2.

3. Clans that stopped between checkpoints 2 and 5.

4. Clans that passed checkpoint 5.

If you have any suggestions on how to improve this functionality, I will be happy to forward them to the developers😇

Jun 13, 2022, 11:0106/13/22
Jun 13, 2022, 11:09(edited)
09/15/15
219
xyz

Pipkin, have you removed a post from this page? Pretty  sure there was something about you liking to win CvC for the runic coins, which was the purpose of my third attempt at my previous post, much changed and condensed from the original version  which failed on sending.

XVZ: sorry for the late response. Yes I did remove that post which was just to say there are rewards in cvc worth competing for. It is about the only competition that the clans in our kingdom take seriously. We certainly dont bother with kvks, Fury, Holmgang etc.

I should add for Susan that what Ivar says seems to work for us - we have a reasonable chance of winning every 2nd cvc - which seems emminently fair to all. We won our last cvc - it was a battle. This coming one we face a lv 40 player and if they raise their sh to level 4 (currently level 3) we will have no chance of winning.

Jun 16, 2022, 00:4006/16/22
09/15/15
219

and we won - despite our oponent guarding our sh at the end with his level 40 player. We let our oponent think all along that we didnt expect to win and he didn't raise his sh to level 4. 🙂 (That tactic didn't work in a previous cvc ... so win some lose some).

Jun 17, 2022, 07:2006/17/22
09/15/15
219

John: I am impressed - I did as you suggested and sent a ticket to Plarium asking if they could transfer the clan leadership to another member that I had already discussed it with, and within a few hours it was done. Thank you Plarium. Thank you John.

Jun 17, 2022, 10:1806/17/22
220588
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John: I am impressed - I did as you suggested and sent a ticket to Plarium asking if they could transfer the clan leadership to another member that I had already discussed it with, and within a few hours it was done. Thank you Plarium. Thank you John.

Thank you for your positive feedback. Forwarded it to my colleagues 😍

Jun 20, 2022, 07:5406/20/22
11/19/18
20

I dont think that the issue I am having a problem with is being understood! The problem is that the siege is generating a set of point that are tripled unfairly. This is my main issue! All the other category points are only counted ONE TIME. However the siege points are counted THREE TIMES! This is so grossly unfair! The other problems are also considerations that should be reviewed & addressed but the unfair TRIPLING needs to be done away with completely! Only one warrior is killed, yet it is counted in 3 areas! This is WRONG! Amd unfair.

Jun 20, 2022, 21:5606/20/22
09/19/20
85

John in response to the above I think a very sensible idea already exists on other posts/threads, and that is to separate out those clans who can seige and those who can't.

If both clans can seige then the triple points will measure the best seige and/or the most successful attack on the opposing seige.

For those clans who can't seige if opposing each other the triple point effect will be eliminated.

I accept with this there will be occasions where 1 clan builds a tower and holds a seige, but this would be a one time gain.

Jun 23, 2022, 06:3306/23/22
220588

Everybody says that they are looking for the new kingdom. The problem is not in finding, but in recognizing it. In fact this is the problem with most people, they don’t recognize the new kingdom because they are not looking for it. They have their own minds and they have their own hearts and they have their own ideas.